Does Pac beat Castillo, Corrales, Hernandez, etc at 130-135?
Does he beat Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, etc at 140-147?
Does he beat Marquez in 2009 at 146*?
Does he beat Oscar and Cotto at 154?
Does he beat 23yo Canelo at 152?
Does he beat Maidana in 2014?
floyd fought guys under his terms/watch - hopkins
pac fought everyone - hopkins
see even the boxing legends agree with me. :lol1:
Is that the same Hopkins that said Manny was a Ped user I bet you ride with him there lol
Manny is a rat with a gold tooth and youre as gullible as a kid in a 3rd world country, the rest of the world has so many heros and you got one no wonder youre so naive.
Manny does all of that and more .
floyd fought guys under his terms/watch - hopkins
pac fought everyone - hopkins
see even the boxing legends agree with me. :lol1:
even amir khan can go through undefeated if he has all kinds of advantages before the fight (size of ring, gloves, weight, referee, judges USADA).
Manny does all of that and more .
No but it's not like Mayweather could have won a world title at Flyweight.
Scenario 1) May was a puny guy LIKE PAC and gained weight. Thus, allowing May to be that Flyweight. Hence, giving May a chance to destroy those lame food vendors.
Scenario 2) Pitting May vs guys he would logically be able to fight.
Either scenario, Pac's resume is mostly garbage and May would have no problems keeping his 0.
Morales and Berrara, as great as they were (Pac caught them at the end), are the exact type of guys May beats with the greatest of ease.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Take away clauses and punching bags, Pac's best wins are Keith Hurtman and maybe Tim Bradley ?
Yeah Erik and Barrera are more accomplished but they were also shopworn. I wouldn't be surprised if Bradley would have beaten them (mostly Erik).
Pac fiends are not even casuals. They are obsessives.
they both fought marquez at 144. they both won. what is your point? oh wait actually marquez was at 144 and floyd didnt even make weight so thats even worse, but floyd never fought a 147 marquez and marquez never beat pac below 147 so to somehow use something that never happened as proof that one guy is better doesnt make a whole lot of sense.
:lol1: don't clutch straws.
JMM knocked Pacquiao tf out after Mayweather fought him.
Thus on Floyd's resume, at that weight, Pacquiao gets ktfo. Confirmed. :lol1:
Does Pac beat Castillo, Corrales, Hernandez, etc at 130-135?
Does he beat Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, etc at 140-147?
Does he beat Marquez in 2009 at 146*?
Does he beat Oscar and Cotto at 154?
Does he beat 23yo Canelo at 152?
Does he beat Maidana in 2014?
Are we talking about a prime Pacquiao hypothetically fighting those guys? Or are we talking about Pacquiao fighting them at the same time Mayweather did?
A prime Pacquiao (2008-2010) could win those fights, however I'm gonna go with the latter since there are no time machines:
Does Pac beat Castillo, Corrales, Hernandez, etc at 130-135? No, those fights were in 2001-2002 when Pacquiao was at 122-126. Those guys would be too big and I think Manny goes 0-3 against this group at that time.
Does he beat Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, etc at 140-147? These fights took place in 2006 when Pacquiao was at 130. He would be too fast for Arturo Gatti, however I think a prime Judah is too much and perhaps he could overcome the size advantage against a much slower Baldomir. I think he goes 2-1 against this group
Does he beat Marquez in 2009 at 146*? Manny was at his absolute peak in 2009 and I think he wins more convincingly against Marquez at this time
Does he beat Oscar and Cotto at 154? Assuming he faces Oscar in 2008 like before but at 154, I think he still wins. Perhaps not by stoppage but he wins on swarming activity. The same goes for Cotto in 2009. Perhaps Cotto makes it to the final bell but Manny simply overwhelms him with speed and activity.
Does he beat 23yo Canelo at 152? I think Canelo wins this in 2013. Manny was just coming off his knockout loss to Marquez and he came back as a much more calculated fighter. He would need his whirlwind activity to beat Canelo and he no longer had that. I think Canelo wins.
Does he beat Maidana in 2014? Manny sort of got his mojo back around this time and I actually think he matches up better against Maidana than Floyd. Maidana would look to press the action but Manny would catch him with straight lefts all night. Manny wins.
You think Manny doesnt you fking idiot. god dam you cnts are so delusional biased and blind as a bat.
all a side boxers do but floyd took it to a whole new level. he wouldnt even fight guys if they were too dangerous or until they fell off, he made opponents wear pillow gloves, he said he only wants to fight guys when they are healthy then drained canelo and cheated marquez on the scales, he made an entire fake testing program where he could use tue's and his opponent couldnt, he took less money to fight guys while ducking others(margarito), he said guys lived too far away, his own promoter said he was ducking fights, he fake retired because he didnt want to fight certain guys. need more?
He took an L vs JMM @ 147.
So, Pacquiao would've lost at some point in Mayweather's resume no matter what.
It's already been proven.
they both fought marquez at 144. they both won. what is your point? oh wait actually marquez was at 144 and floyd didnt even make weight so thats even worse, but floyd never fought a 147 marquez and marquez never beat pac below 147 so to somehow use something that never happened as proof that one guy is better doesnt make a whole lot of sense.
Please don’t. Everyone knows that floyd nitpicks each and every detail. If you don’t think floyd has his money in other peoples pockets, YDKSAB
You think Manny doesnt you fking idiot. god dam you cnts are so delusional biased and blind as a bat.
Mosley and DLH were better versions when the fought Floyd than Manny.
The Hatton that fought Floyd was better than Hatton who fought Manny
JMM that fought Floyd was better than the 3rd and 4th JMM that fought Manny
A case could even be made for Cotto...
The only prime guy out of all of those guys Floyd beat was Hatton.
Funny how you mention “coward that always stacked the deck in his favor”
Froid:
Picks judges
Picks ref
Handpicks all opponents
Only fights in vegas
Sets ring size terms
Sets glove terms
Sets all weight terms
Xylocaine
Illegal IV use
Should i keep going?
Please don't. I'm speaking facts, you're speaking irrelevant nonsense and conspiracy theories.
You see how you exaggerated that the only guy out of your list who was prime was Hatton.
Mosley and DLH were better versions when the fought Floyd than Manny.
The Hatton that fought Floyd was better than Hatton who fought Manny
JMM that fought Floyd was better than the 3rd and 4th JMM that fought Manny
A case could even be made for Cotto...
Manny/Horn looked like Floyd/Madonna 1, except Manny actually had Horn on the brink of a tko, and Floyd had in his entourage, his personal judges.
I would pay money to see Madonna box
You don't get props for being the smaller fighter when you need to drain the life out of your opponents just to be competitive. It's hilarious how people have tried to portray Manny as the other underdog overcoming the odds when in reality he was a coward that always stacked the deck in his favor.
Jeff Horn gave Manny that karma, though. The school teacher bullied his little ass, showed us why Manny always needed multiple handicaps to beat larger fighters
Manny/Horn looked like Floyd/Madonna 1, except Manny actually had Horn on the brink of a tko, and Floyd had in his entourage, his personal judges.