I've been on record several times saying that im not convinced that Tyson Fury agrees to this fight...but if by chance he does agree to it how many rounds do you think he lasts against AJ?
I'm talking to the true boxing fans here with several years or decades of analyzing this sport.....not some garbage casuals that spawned in a ditch somewhere in furys hometown. They need not respond.
If your life was on the line to make a prediction and the closer you are to the right answer meaning life or death....how many rounds does he last?
He's been working out a bit and looks a little more muscular so that should help him a little bit I guess.
What do you guys think? I think fury will dance and jab and hold his way to surviving the first 3 or 4 rounds...after that say goodnight.
The only joke here is you becauze you very obviously have no idea how to score a fight and love to make a big deal about things not even relevant today.
For example, how can you "prove" something with evidence?
Like this.
X fighter has a granite chin. Hes never been knocked down or out. Thats why I believe he won't get knocked out in his next fight.
How did I come to that conclusion?
You see what I did there? Did you see it?
Now sure, x fighter could lose by KO in his next fight but everything until that moment does not support that argument.
Did you do that? Nope. In fact you didn't even talk about AJ at all. So much bias from someone pretending to be so objective lmao.
And let's talk about your limited knowledge when it comes to power lifting. You think a power lifter is stronger than someone who is naturally bigger than them?
Too funny bro.
You do know that only has to do with fiber density and diversity right? And those individuals who posses such explosive strength RARELY have the stamina to do endurance sports right?
So you example really isn't a good example.
Especially considering that AJ isn't even a power lifter himself and for most of his life was a body builder?
I love when stupid people try their best to sound smart. You know when other people talk, if you listen, you can really understand what kind of person they are.
You very obviously are limited in your boxing knowledge and your knowledge of the body.
You think im wrong? Let me pretend I'm you and provide another poor example misusing information.
Oh, long distance runners have a ton of stamina. I bet if boxing was 15 rounds they would beat everyone because guys can't even last 12 rounds these days.
Imagine after saying something so stupid like that and then patting yourself on the back.
Power lifters lift a lot more weight for their body size so they must be stronger than bigger guys.
Lmfao.
Is strength the maximum amount of weight you can lift? Too ****ing funny
What you have just said about 'sounding smart' but actually being stupid was the epitome of your own words. Yes, that was me saying 'I know you are but what am I?'.
The beauty of your entire ramble was that you didn't disagree with anything I'd said previously. So I'll assume that you realised your error and I accept your apology.
Still no 'evidence' then?
First off; saying 'lmfao' to all of your own sentences doesn't mean they are funny. It makes you look like a twat.
Secondly; body weight has nothing to do with strength. You only need to look at Powerlifting and the weight those guys are and how much they move to see that.
I think you're a condescending douche bag because you talk down to other posters, demanding evidence from them to validate their post when the event hasn't taken place. SMH.
Oh, so you agree that Fury is totally hittable and that's how AJ will win. Good.
I mean, you only have to Google to see the list of sources that come up thinking he lost to John McDermott...but here's a reputable one...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2009/sep/14/mcdermott-fury-english-heavyweight-boxing
But let me guess, that's not enough and you are a superior source because you post on this forum??? Jeez.
I'm a liar? Ok. So other than the above...do you really mean to say that the 10 count wasn't close enough in the 12th round KD in Fury Wilder 1 to say that it isn't debateable? I know Fury did enough to win the fight in lieu of the knockdown but if you don't think the 10 count wasn't close, you are actually blind.
and that is why a LOT of people think Fury lost to Wilder and McDermott.
I mean, you just get better and better. You ask for 'evidence' of the questions that you are now asking me and you expect me to just pluck it out of thin air to prove you wrong?
So here's me acting like you. I want you to give me evidence that God exists and everything you say is wrong until you give me this evidence. Do you think God exists? Any answer you give is unacceptable but I'll still going to ask; do you think God exists? But you don't have evidence so I'll go ask my priest.
You're a bit of a joke, really.
The only joke here is you becauze you very obviously have no idea how to score a fight and love to make a big deal about things not even relevant today.
For example, how can you "prove" something with evidence?
Like this.
X fighter has a granite chin. Hes never been knocked down or out. Thats why I believe he won't get knocked out in his next fight.
How did I come to that conclusion?
You see what I did there? Did you see it?
Now sure, x fighter could lose by KO in his next fight but everything until that moment does not support that argument.
Did you do that? Nope. In fact you didn't even talk about AJ at all. So much bias from someone pretending to be so objective lmao.
And let's talk about your limited knowledge when it comes to power lifting. You think a power lifter is stronger than someone who is naturally bigger than them?
Too funny bro.
You do know that only has to do with fiber density and diversity right? And those individuals who posses such explosive strength RARELY have the stamina to do endurance sports right?
So you example really isn't a good example.
Especially considering that AJ isn't even a power lifter himself and for most of his life was a body builder?
I love when stupid people try their best to sound smart. You know when other people talk, if you listen, you can really understand what kind of person they are.
You very obviously are limited in your boxing knowledge and your knowledge of the body.
You think im wrong? Let me pretend I'm you and provide another poor example misusing information.
Oh, long distance runners have a ton of stamina. I bet if boxing was 15 rounds they would beat everyone because guys can't even last 12 rounds these days.
Imagine after saying something so stupid like that and then patting yourself on the back.
Power lifters lift a lot more weight for their body size so they must be stronger than bigger guys.
Lmfao.
Is strength the maximum amount of weight you can lift? Too ****ing funny
Yo.
I barely watch the HW division but tune into the "big fights".
Im by no means a fan of Tyson Fury rather I think hes the best based on what he's accomplished and how he's looked in the ring.
You guys all wanna pretend everyone has a stake in this or reasons other than boxing why they want this dude to win but that's not the case here.
How do we now Tyson is stronger than AJ? Because AJ doesn't naturally have the same size. Fury is a big 270+ and naturally carries that weight.
Does that mean Fury is a harder hitter based on that fact alone? No! But let's pretend that's what i meant when I said that.
You think im a consending ******* because you I'm talking down about your boy. All I'm doing is pointing out the very obvious.
The best part is where you go on and claim Fury is hittable and that's why AJ will win. Nooooo **** Sherlock. Boxers get hit with punches.
Then go on to, look at the bold, pretend that a lot of people thing Fury lost those two fights. Lmfao. Who thinks he lost those fights?
You say A LOT. Im calling you a liar especially when it comes to Wilder lmfao.
McDermott was a fight that happened how long ago and has what kind of relevance today? It happened in 2009 ffs. But no let's bring it up because why again?
And Wilder? No one thought he won anything other than the salty black fanboys who refused to concede worse than Trump despite all the evidence saying the contrary.
Has AJ ever fought someone with the same as Fury?
Has he fought anyone with a similar style?
Can he effectively fight off his back foot against an opponent with superior length and jab?
Is he willing to trade on the inside if Fury fights moving forward?
Will he have enough gas?
All questions AJ needs to answer and somehow you think he and yourself have all the answers to these questions.
For most of those questions I think no, which is why I dont think he will win. Apparently you think differently huh?
Still no 'evidence' then?
First off; saying 'lmfao' to all of your own sentences doesn't mean they are funny. It makes you look like a twat.
Secondly; body weight has nothing to do with strength. You only need to look at Powerlifting and the weight those guys are and how much they move to see that.
I think you're a condescending douche bag because you talk down to other posters, demanding evidence from them to validate their post when the event hasn't taken place. SMH.
Oh, so you agree that Fury is totally hittable and that's how AJ will win. Good.
I mean, you only have to Google to see the list of sources that come up thinking he lost to John McDermott...but here's a reputable one...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2009/sep/14/mcdermott-fury-english-heavyweight-boxing
But let me guess, that's not enough and you are a superior source because you post on this forum??? Jeez.
I'm a liar? Ok. So other than the above...do you really mean to say that the 10 count wasn't close enough in the 12th round KD in Fury Wilder 1 to say that it isn't debateable? I know Fury did enough to win the fight in lieu of the knockdown but if you don't think the 10 count wasn't close, you are actually blind.
and that is why a LOT of people think Fury lost to Wilder and McDermott.
I mean, you just get better and better. You ask for 'evidence' of the questions that you are now asking me and you expect me to just pluck it out of thin air to prove you wrong?
So here's me acting like you. I want you to give me evidence that God exists and everything you say is wrong until you give me this evidence. Do you think God exists? Any answer you give is unacceptable but I'll still going to ask; do you think God exists? But you don't have evidence so I'll go ask my priest.
You're a bit of a joke, really.
Its cool if you want to call Fury/Klitschko a "schooling" but most fight fans deem it the most boring heavyweight fight in history...AND FURY WAS ON PEDS just to put on a stinker like that....you are MINDPHUCKED! LOL
Fury had tested clean for well over a year leading up to the Wlad fight. He popped for the Christian Hammer fight which came beforehand. I don't like that he popped for PEDs but they had no part in his Wlad fight at all.
See...you don't quite understand what was said there...its cool...there's a lot of people on this forum that just don't understand simple $h!+. Working out can indeed give you more DURABILITY...especially in the body...SMDH...you are dismissed.
It doesn't improve chins like you're making out to be the case. Fury already has great powers of recovery and stamina, much much better than the musclebound AJ who is comparatively much more body beautiful and stereotypically athletic looking.
Lifting weights does **** all for your durability too.
There isn't really any metric to prove that Tyson Fury is stronger than AJ and how can you provide evidence that Joshua will knock Fury out when the fight hasn't even happened yet? That's a silly thing to say.
Power doesn't mitigate the biological disadvantages that Fury has but its the one attribute that trumps the others. We saw that if power connects, Fury goes down, just like any other man.
Fury likes to talk a big game about knocking out opponents but we know that Joshua has a massive power advantage, Kronk or no Kronk. Fury is totally hittable. McDermott, Cunningham, Wallin and Wilder showed us that.
You're calling people fanboys but then looking like a total fanboy yourself. Yes, Joshua lost to Ruiz. Its HW boxing. How many people think Fury lost to McDermott and Wilder? The answer is; A LOT.
Joshua did to Ruiz, what Fury did to Klitschko so you need to decide here, did they both run or did they both box amazingly well? Just because Joshua is synonymous with knocking people out, doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the credit for totally outclassing his opponent. Its not one rule for one, and not another.
So, rather than being a hypocrite and a condescending douche bag; accept that you aren't providing 'evidence' yourself.
Yo.
I barely watch the HW division but tune into the "big fights".
Im by no means a fan of Tyson Fury rather I think hes the best based on what he's accomplished and how he's looked in the ring.
You guys all wanna pretend everyone has a stake in this or reasons other than boxing why they want this dude to win but that's not the case here.
How do we now Tyson is stronger than AJ? Because AJ doesn't naturally have the same size. Fury is a big 270+ and naturally carries that weight.
Does that mean Fury is a harder hitter based on that fact alone? No! But let's pretend that's what i meant when I said that.
You think im a consending ******* because you I'm talking down about your boy. All I'm doing is pointing out the very obvious.
The best part is where you go on and claim Fury is hittable and that's why AJ will win. Nooooo **** Sherlock. Boxers get hit with punches.
Then go on to, look at the bold, pretend that a lot of people thing Fury lost those two fights. Lmfao. Who thinks he lost those fights?
You say A LOT. Im calling you a liar especially when it comes to Wilder lmfao.
McDermott was a fight that happened how long ago and has what kind of relevance today? It happened in 2009 ffs. But no let's bring it up because why again?
And Wilder? No one thought he won anything other than the salty black fanboys who refused to concede worse than Trump despite all the evidence saying the contrary.
Has AJ ever fought someone with the same as Fury?
Has he fought anyone with a similar style?
Can he effectively fight off his back foot against an opponent with superior length and jab?
Is he willing to trade on the inside if Fury fights moving forward?
Will he have enough gas?
All questions AJ needs to answer and somehow you think he and yourself have all the answers to these questions.
For most of those questions I think no, which is why I dont think he will win. Apparently you think differently huh?
Pulev was splattered all over the floor, then turned his back and ran away in round 3. :pat:
8-9 rounds until Fury gets laid out, but at least if he takes the fight it’s the 3rd top 20 opponent of his whole career. His fanboys would have you believe he fights killers all the time and knocks them out, except when he doesn’t but that’s only because he doesn’t really try.
Hammer, Cunningham, Chisora X2, Wilder X2 and Wlad were all top 10, let alone top 20 you nugget.
- -Dunno since The Big Tosser and Deyonce been ducking BIG AJ $ like the plague to diddle each other fer peanuts on the dollar.
One or the other need to MAN up for their destiny.
Good luck with that!
They ducked AJ by fighting each other, having been two of the best in the division out of the top 3. The second time around having them as the top 2. Yeah, what a duck that is.
What reason do you have to believe that Fury will indeed stand upright for 12 full rounds against AJ?..what has he shown you in his career to say that? What opponent has he shown you these attributes against?
Wlad in the midst of his unbeaten streak, who's a better fighter than AJ is.
I think Fury is more likely to win than Joshua. He has a lot of advantages.
As a Joshua fan; I am hoping he does KO him. He better do it quick otherwise Fury will overwhelm him as the fight goes on.
So, Fury by UD most likely but putting some coin on Joshua KO/TKO within 5 and praying!
Based on WHAT?
Already you're the 2nd guy claiming Fury is going to be splattered but have provided no evidence or reason other than "I'm an AJ fanboy, I said so.".
Fury is taller, stronger, longer and MUCH heavier than AJ.
So already AJ is at a physical disadvantage. What does he bring to the table to mitigate Furys physical advantages?
The answer is nothing. AJs best chance is to throw and land a prayer and thats it.
Fury might not fight killers all the time but hes proven again and again that he rises to the occasion when it counts and that matters. Compare to AJs American debut where gets flatlined by an fat@ss and took a decision in the rematch refusing to engage at all.
Yet somehow AJ is gonna flatline a guy who's better than Andy Ruiz in less time who is taller, longer, stronger, and just as heavy?
Makes a ton of sense fanboy.
There isn't really any metric to prove that Tyson Fury is stronger than AJ and how can you provide evidence that Joshua will knock Fury out when the fight hasn't even happened yet? That's a silly thing to say.
Power doesn't mitigate the biological disadvantages that Fury has but its the one attribute that trumps the others. We saw that if power connects, Fury goes down, just like any other man.
Fury likes to talk a big game about knocking out opponents but we know that Joshua has a massive power advantage, Kronk or no Kronk. Fury is totally hittable. McDermott, Cunningham, Wallin and Wilder showed us that.
You're calling people fanboys but then looking like a total fanboy yourself. Yes, Joshua lost to Ruiz. Its HW boxing. How many people think Fury lost to McDermott and Wilder? The answer is; A LOT.
Joshua did to Ruiz, what Fury did to Klitschko so you need to decide here, did they both run or did they both box amazingly well? Just because Joshua is synonymous with knocking people out, doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the credit for totally outclassing his opponent. Its not one rule for one, and not another.
So, rather than being a hypocrite and a condescending douche bag; accept that you aren't providing 'evidence' yourself.
Against Fury, Joshua can't run for 12 rounds like he did against the morbidly obese Mexican. Fury is bigger, more fluid and mobile than the stiff robot Joshua. Joshua once again proves that peanut heads don't have much punch resistance, so even the pillow fisted Fury will make Joshua do the stanky legs the first clean punch he lands. Whether the count was slow or not, Fury getting up from one of the heaviest punchers in HW boxing (Wilder), proves that his chin is solid. Besides power, Fury dominates in every department against Joshua. OP probably watches too much WWE and thinks a roided up body = best fighter lol.
You're not wrong. But that's what happens when they just like to get drunk and cheer for an underwear model that a promoter has told them is the greatest thing ever.
It’s like the blind leading the blind and mentally re****ed. :lol1:
See...you don't quite understand what was said there...its cool...there's a lot of people on this forum that just don't understand simple $h!+. Working out can indeed give you more DURABILITY...especially in the body...SMDH...you are dismissed.
That was a weak response!
It’s commonly agreed that the fitter a fighter is, the better and faster they recover from a big shot or a knock down.
But you are saying because someone has put on muscle this gives them a better chin which is totally wrong
Is it just me or do AJ fans generally seem really uneducated about the sport.
Ever fighter has fanboys, I get that, but I’ve met intelligent Mayweather fans, Pacquiao fans etc in regard to boxing.
I don’t think I’ve ever spoke to an AJ fan who understands boxing, they all seem like casuals or just straight re****s.
OK...Question for you Mr true fight fan LOL...How can a guy that thinks Roy Jones Jr is one of the greatest of all time also think that Tyson Fury is an all time great? That's real delusion right there....my God you idiots are everywhere..lol
He schooled an 11 year undefeated Wladimir Klitschko making the 19th defence of his unified title in his own backyard.
Fury has faster hands, far faster feet, way better ring IQ. It’s a very bad style for AJ.
You must be knew to boxing if you’re asking such dumb questions.
You seem very delusional man. I’m guessing your a huge AJ fan but all you’re doing here is diminishing what AJ could potentially achieve.
Its cool if you want to call Fury/Klitschko a "schooling" but most fight fans deem it the most boring heavyweight fight in history...AND FURY WAS ON PEDS just to put on a stinker like that....you are MINDPHUCKED! LOL