Bob Arum: "Wilder has 100% lost the case against Fury"

Boxrec has Usyk at 5 ffs, it’s clearly ****e. Wins over Chazz Witherspoon and Derek Chisora makes you the 5th best HW does it.

All HWs today are garbage. People say that bc Fury and AJ or Wilder are best of the division that makes them good...No. They are all C level fighters in a F/D division. None of them are ATG at anything. LOL, here we go again. Answer me this; who are you comparing them to?

How you gonna praise boxrec then throw Wilder shade? He's second to one man on their ratings... All HWs today are garbage. People say that bc Fury and AJ or Wilder are best of the division that makes them good...No. They are all C level fighters in a F/D division. None of them are ATG at anything.

I'm absoloutley sick to death of this clown, he vanished off the face of the Earth ALL YEAR then comes out making some ridiculous excuses a year later in a pathetic attempt to save face. Seriously, if this guy wants it there's a road back for him, he's with PBC, there's plenty of good fights there where he can make decent money, gain back some respect and get himself in a prime position for a shot. We all know he's going to fight Charles Martin next though, you know why not the Ruiz jr fight? That would be a pretty big deal, that's a money fight and the winner is right back at the front of the queue. I'm just sick of all the BS with Wilder just fight someone good for once. Because if PBC has any belief in either fighter they will keep both fighters away because business-wise that would end one of there fighter marketability completely.

Boxing has 6+ champions per weight class. The word CHAMPION means BEST and it is IMPOSSIBLE to have 6 "best"...only ONE can be BEST. That is why I like BoxRec. I don't necessarily praise their algorithm but we need something OBJECTIVE and while BoxRec is far from perfect its leagues better than BOXING and all of its corrupt politics. Wilder was always a fringe champion. Go back YEARS and look at my accounts (was banned for calling out #WonderWhiteBreadMan) and I always said Wilder was C level. I also am not high on Spence or Thurman and have NEVER been. Both guys are decent fighters but people act like ANY OF THEM have ever fought an elite opponent - THEY HAVE NOT. ZERO ELITE OPPONENTS. And they passed up and continue to DUCK Crawford - an elite fighter. PBC is a serious JOKE of an organization. I initially supported PBC but they became as corrupt and in some ways more corrupt than GB/TR/DAZN. Originally PBC was going to make the PBC belt and I thought, fuck it...mb it can take over all the other ORGS. Wishful thinking hahahahaa...pls tell u arent serious danny, porter, thurman and spence all have better resumes than crawford....and their promoter can afford to pay them to fight each other lol....bob cant afford porter or thurman and everyone knows it bob arum had a pac fight right there for the taking for bud...and nothing...then as soon as pac beats thurman bob is alllll "oh man bud vs pac is the fight we need to see"...lol...FOH with that BS the pbc aint any worse than anyone else...bob arum would be acting no differently if he had bud, danny, thurman and porter and al had bud.....bud is the one that reupped with bob knowing how the game works and where all the names were....FOH

Well there’s only two choices to really rank the top guy it’s either Fury or AJ so not sure what relevance it has to boxrec who have Wilder at 2 which proves it’s flawed . Most fighters don’t deserve a shot at titles but that’s not because of today that’s just about every era the difference here is A.J is fighting guys highly ranked all the time ,go look at almost anyone’s resume you’ll see many guys taking easy touch fights . In this particular era you had Wilder picking the ones he thought or were far chances of winning , Fury wasn’t even a defending champion. It has been A.J carrying the division the entire time he got a hold of his first belt which was 2016 against Martin . Boxing has 6+ champions per weight class. The word CHAMPION means BEST and it is IMPOSSIBLE to have 6 "best"...only ONE can be BEST. That is why I like BoxRec. I don't necessarily praise their algorithm but we need something OBJECTIVE and while BoxRec is far from perfect its leagues better than BOXING and all of its corrupt politics. Wilder was always a fringe champion. Go back YEARS and look at my accounts (was banned for calling out #WonderWhiteBreadMan) and I always said Wilder was C level. I also am not high on Spence or Thurman and have NEVER been. Both guys are decent fighters but people act like ANY OF THEM have ever fought an elite opponent - THEY HAVE NOT. ZERO ELITE OPPONENTS. And they passed up and continue to DUCK Crawford - an elite fighter. PBC is a serious JOKE of an organization. I initially supported PBC but they became as corrupt and in some ways more corrupt than GB/TR/DAZN. Originally PBC was going to make the PBC belt and I thought, fuck it...mb it can take over all the other ORGS. Wishful thinking

"We came up with a possible solution to allow the Fury Joshua fight to happen & Fury if he won would fight Wilder..." But the rematch is expired. They owe Wilder nothing. Why are they even discussing a solution? Because maybe, "they owe Wilder nothing" isn't the case??? I mean, seeing you people argue this with yourselves is simply extraordinary. If Wilder and co. didn't have a case then they wouldn't even be in discussion.

"We came up with a possible solution to allow the Fury Joshua fight to happen & Fury if he won would fight Wilder..." And what if Fury didn't win? Why would the mediator suggest Wilder make himself a hostage to fortune like that if he still had a binding contract to fight Fury whatever?

"We came up with a possible solution to allow the Fury Joshua fight to happen & Fury if he won would fight Wilder..." But the rematch is expired. They owe Wilder nothing. Why are they even discussing a solution? You obviously didn't listen to everything Arum said. The mediator suggested ending the disagreement by rescheduling the fight. But Fury shot that down in flames because he was pissed off by all the lies and slurs from Wilder. Wilder basically talked himself out of a 3rd fight, while at the same time throwing up a lot of dumb excuses for losing the 2nd, which I believe was exactly what he was trying to do.

Wilder already said he’s moving on way back in November. However this is what he said mid October, “Oh yeah, I can’t work out now. Once I get healed with my arm I’m looking forward to just working out, being able to do the things I love to do,” said Wilder” How can he train let alone fight if he can’t even work out ? So he vaguely calls off the Fury fight a month later , the link shows this . https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/13221703/deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-dillian-whyte/ Why is Wilder waiting and claiming he’s looking for new opponents in November of 2020 , when the fight is not scheduled until February 2021 according to Finkle ? This is contradictory to what Finkle claims of a fight is happening in December but then he says that’s when sparring partners will be looked for in that month . These guys just can’t get this story straight ,I don’t believe they really wanted it and wanted to get free pay out of mediation and put Wilders name out there like he did with A.J . These guys are the worst liars . Yeah, in October, he told Behind The Gloves he still couldn't work out because of an injury suffered in the spring, then a month later he told Brian Custer he'd been ready to fight since September! He also told Custer he'd moved on from Fury and and would be fighting somebody else in January. Meanwhile, Finkel was claiming Fury/Wilder was still being negotiated for February! WTF? That's the problem with becoming a habitual liar ... you tell so many porkies you lose track and end up exposing yourself with contradictions like those.

Covid really ruined the fight but whatever. I hope Wilder can come back with a bang. Excuses aside, I'd love to see that 3rd fight.

These are the kind of low intellect people I am talking about. This guy I'm replying and Redeemer. Guys you can almost positively assume don't have a lick of post secondary education. The UK is full of them, hence why they keep electing charlatans like the current government. Using horse**** like "LDBC" as if a bunch youtubers will have any kind of effect on the outcome of negotiation/mediation/litigation between these multi-million dollar entities and individuals. So why do these multi-million dollar entities and individuals, like Hearn, Arum, Wilder, Sugarhill Steward, etc, bother giving interviews to LDBC channels?

All this means nothing. Kinda getting sick of Arum trying to negotiate through the media. Didn't seem to work in December and I dont think it will work now. All that matters is how the court rule (and tbh Wilder's case doesn't look very strong), until that point I'll wait. But, considering just how much is being said by Arum, I am not entirely sure he's on particularly good stead either. Despite his clear intellect, his dishonesty is kinda unnerving at times. I used to think Hearn was bad (he is) but he takes it to a whole new level. The way he just casually pretended as if Pulev really had a chance and as if he really would have been happy with the ****ing pittance a undisputed showdown between Pulev and Fury would have earned. Its impressive how has the ability to say things completely incongruent with his own desires and beliefs... But then maybe its because dumbasses eat it up so easily. I think its like covid conspiracies and how the more fantastical the conspiracy, the more it convinces those of poor social strata and education. There is absolutely no reason to believe anything Arum has to say when it comes to contractual disputes, from my understanding he has been shot down by Haymon numerous times before. You're understanding is flawed, as is your naive idea of what the job of a boxing promoter actually is. Clue: It isn't to tell boxing fans the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about boxing.

He and Finkel have a lot of experience pulling that trick. And of course, they have their sock puppet shills and fan boys backing up everything they say, no matter how outrageous it is. These are the kind of low intellect people I am talking about. This guy I'm replying and Redeemer. Guys you can almost positively assume don't have a lick of post secondary education. The UK is full of them, hence why they keep electing charlatans like the current government. Using horse**** like "LDBC" as if a bunch youtubers will have any kind of effect on the outcome of negotiation/mediation/litigation between these multi-million dollar entities and individuals.

All this means nothing. Kinda getting sick of Arum trying to negotiate through the media. Didn't seem to work in December and I dont think it will work now. All that matters is how the court rule (and tbh Wilder's case doesn't look very strong), until that point I'll wait. But, considering just how much is being said by Arum, I am not entirely sure he's on particularly good stead either. Despite his clear intellect, his dishonesty is kinda unnerving at times. I used to think Hearn was bad (he is) but he takes it to a whole new level. The way he just casually pretended as if Pulev really had a chance and as if he really would have been happy with the ****ing pittance a undisputed showdown between Pulev and Fury would have earned. Its impressive how has the ability to say things completely incongruent with his own desires and beliefs... But then maybe its because dumbasses eat it up so easily. I think its like covid conspiracies and how the more fantastical the conspiracy, the more it convinces those of poor social strata and education. There is absolutely no reason to believe anything Arum has to say when it comes to contractual disputes, from my understanding he has been shot down by Haymon numerous times before.

He was very tactical, he release a video about how the king would be back, like he was rallying his troops, he then proceed to stay silent for 9 months, knowingly and only came out AFTER the stipulated contract had expired, like Fury was avoiding the rematch. They knew exactly what they were doing. You can blame covid all you want but if you want that fight then your actions would show that you do want it. Like I've said before .. neither side really wanted the fight during the Covid crises, but only one side needed it, and they didn't do anything to get it.

I think it will just be more posturing, claiming everyone ducked him . Nothing new . He and Finkel have a lot of experience pulling that trick. And of course, they have their sock puppet shills and fan boys backing up everything they say, no matter how outrageous it is.

He was very tactical, he release a video about how the king would be back, like he was rallying his troops, he then proceed to stay silent for 9 months, knowingly and only came out AFTER the stipulated contract had expired, like Fury was avoiding the rematch. They knew exactly what they were doing. You can blame covid all you want but if you want that fight then your actions would show that you do want it.

Boxrec .. The site was founded by John Sheppard, an Englishman. Sheppard had never attended a boxing bout until 1995 when he attended a "Prince" Naseem Hamed fight with Hamed's older brothers Riath and Nabeel. Sheppard had considered boxing to be a "barbaric and degrading" spectacle, stating "I sat there watching people punch each other in the head, wondering why they were doing it... but he found a way to make money didn’t he? Also, The website is updated by “Volunteer” editors from many countries around the world. The formula is laughable at times ,no one who understands boxing takes that seriously . Imagine if they awarded belts on point value based on them and who the champions and top guys could be ? BoxRec is better than BOXING though as it lists ONE CHAMP for ONE WEIGHT CLASS. And most of these contenders today fight bums and has beens and try to demand a shot...based on what ? Wilder was getting sparked against any remotely decent HW. He had 2 decent wins over Ortiz and literally nothing else of value in his ENTIRE RESUME.

I cant lie Wilder messed himself up here..not sure why he did what he did but he damn sure did it..Maybe the covid can help help his care but he was silent to long It’s not wilder it’s his team. He pays his promoter etc to deal with that. If ever there was a time for him to say - you’ve fck’d up I’m going to earn more money and go to dazn - this would be the time.