You're a proven liar. Now you type more lies. Give it a break. He's a tard, everyone knows it.
You've shown NO proof, except proof that I am correct. I suppose I can assume that the "everyone" refers to half-witted imbeciles like yourself, who number -not a few....
You couldn't SEE or hear the TRUTH if it stood in front of you and hit you in the face. Which is what it has been doing ever since our first email exchange. Documented and sworn Legal Evidence.
I've even suggested that you contact the site managers who can tell you the truth of what you are so upset about. It is basically the same a I've been telling you. .
There is an old saying that "a liar is worse than a thief" but I think to blankly deny sworn affidavit truth is worse.. JUST FOR YOU there should be a new word invented. I always wondered why you chose that ridiculous comic sketch to represent you.
Two LARGE ears joined by a block of wood, is, I think an even better description of you.
Don't abuse me any more, if you do I'll report you for harassment. I would not like to put you on "ignore". You can say that you think I'm wrong, but, to call me a "liar" is too far, and abusive..
I support free speech...but.,
You typed garbage and lies. That didn't happen at all. Even Roach was involved. Pacquiao told Roach he wanted a signing bonus and Roach told GBP. GBP gave Pacquiao 250k cash and Pacquiao signed.
Pacquiao later signed with Arum.
Pacquiao is dumb as ****. :rofl:
“Manny told me he wanted a signing bonus, and I relayed that to Golden Boy,” Roach said. “They negotiated a deal and they gave him the signing bonus, and some of it was in cash in a suitcase.”
The cash transfer became public Wednesday when the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported details of Roach’s deposition on Feb. 13 as part of civil lawsuits between Golden Boy and rival promoter Bob Arum’s Top Rank Inc.
The rival firms are suing over Pacquiao’s promotional rights."
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2007-mar-01-sp-boxing1-story.html#:~:text=Oscar%20De%20La%20Hoya%20and,trainer%20Freddie%20Roach%20said%20Wednesday.
Anymore lies?
Roach's sworn deposition makes NO mention of any such thing. And for your information, Roach made the deposition under strong questioning beforehand...So THIS is a true lie. Roach didn't arrange anything. Pacquiao was signed with Top Rank before he took Roach as a trainer. I recall well the argument they had about Roach's percentage. Even though P was a champion destined for great things and huge purses, Roach demanded 10% although it was common for top fighters to pay much less because of their large purses. Roach took advantage of P. thinking he was stupid enough to accept. And he was, then. But as he later said to his friend Gacal or whatever hs name is, he didn't like it.
I distinctly recall and would bet on it, that Roach said "and not a penny less".
So shut the hell up and leave me alone your stupidity is just too much for me. I suggest that you contact the BoxingScene publisher and ask him what dates and issues those details I've mentioned are in. He'll tell you and then you'll KNOW.
Another thing. You don't seem to understand plain literate English, which I write.
"Manny Pacquiao who would have to have a friend to help him spell Pacquiao." :rofl:
Even the casuals know he's dumb as ****. The guy is so dumb he signed for two promoters at the same time. :rofl:
He is not dumb he got a cash advance from Oscar and then got the chance to beat him thats no dumb but we all know you are. When your matchroom loving guy:greddy2: loose you go into hiding, typical batty boy move
That article proves me right and you wrong. He asked for a signing bonus, signed with GBP, then signed with Top Rank after because he's dumb as ****.
Also proves you a liar. You said he already signed with TR before GBP and they didn't go to court. "Pacquiao tired doe" :dunce:
You appear as dumb as he is. :rofl:
YOU are really the stupid one. The deposition shows that Oscar "wooed him" with a suitcase full of cash.
Also you seem to have missed that "when Pacquiao signed with Golden Boy he was still under contract with Top Rank for Morales 3" .To everyone but a dummy, this would indicate that it indicates that Top Rank had him signed for several years before that, AND if you look up when he first sighed with Arum you'll find that the contract was just coming to the end of it's term. BUT NOT quite. And that prohibition ...Surely you don't think that Arum , Harvard Graduate #1 in his year, Summs Cun Laude, would not know how to write a contract that dealt with EVERY foreseeable possibility.
You are far too stupid and dogged for me to waste my time arguing with. The man who said "Never argue with fools, they'll overwhelm you with numbers"...knew what he was talking about, and you seem to have enough dummie-ness for 20 men.
You still owe me an apology..now TWO apologies. and your big mouth is still open, it never closed.
You typed garbage and lies. That didn't happen at all. Even Roach was involved. Pacquiao told Roach he wanted a signing bonus and Roach told GBP. GBP gave Pacquiao 250k cash and Pacquiao signed.
Pacquiao later signed with Arum.
Pacquiao is dumb as ****. :rofl:
“Manny told me he wanted a signing bonus, and I relayed that to Golden Boy,” Roach said. “They negotiated a deal and they gave him the signing bonus, and some of it was in cash in a suitcase.”
The cash transfer became public Wednesday when the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported details of Roach’s deposition on Feb. 13 as part of civil lawsuits between Golden Boy and rival promoter Bob Arum’s Top Rank Inc.
The rival firms are suing over Pacquiao’s promotional rights."
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2007-mar-01-sp-boxing1-story.html#:~:text=Oscar%20De%20La%20Hoya%20and,trainer%20Freddie%20Roach%20said%20Wednesday.
Anymore lies?
Well then you'd better tell BoxingScene reporters that they don't know what they're talking about . Because that's where I got the info.
ALso, Look Up THE NEW YORK POST of Nov.29th 2008 where the WHOLE story is told in detail.
Amongst other things...verbatim "De La Hoya thought he had signed Pacquiao to a 7 fight deal with Golden Boy Promotions that included a $300,000 signing bonus" (2006).
"But Pacquiao later returned the signing bonus and accepted a $1,000,000 signing bonus to join Top Rank"......"Lawsuits and insults were exchanged...... until an out-of-court- settlement was reached in 2007 with Top Rank becoming Pacquiao's primary promoter"..
"Golden Boy and Top Rank had be bitter rivals since De La Hoya left Top Rank to start his own promotional company"..........but apparently De La Hoya hasn't forgotten about the legal fees Pacquiaocost him and wants some payback"........
"The episode proved embarrassing for De La Hoya. During a deposition for the lawsuit, Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach told how De La Hoya took Pacquiao to a Los Angeles steakhouse and wood him with a suitcase filled with $250,000 in cash. It conjured images of the back room, under the table transactions that have given boxing a bad image."
Regardless of how it was consummated, De La Hoya thought he had a deal. But when Pacquiao signed with Golden Boy, he did so whilst under contract with Top Rank for a 3ed fight against Erik Morales."
The contract according to Top Rank included a clause; prohibiting Pacquiao from signing with another promoter before the bout."......
And there was more, but the ABOVE is the verbatim quotes from the report. So what Roach was blaring into your shell-like ear, was different from what he told under oath in his deposition.
I'd forgotten about some of the details above, like Pacquiao being prohibited from signing with anther promoter before the Morales fight was over. THIS also was reported in the BoxingScene article. which now I recall, but one thing was missing from this POST account.. De La Hoya DID meet Pacquiao coming from a 16 hour flight, dead tired who just wanted to go to bed. and as you see, what I said basically followed. The "undisclosed" deal between Arum and Oscar also was reported on this site. I'd been a member for nearly 10 years, before you came on this site, and know what I'm talking about. It was reported on here long before you were on the horizon.
Oscar tried the same dirty trick on Arum that Don King did to Cedric Kushner over Hasim Rahman after Rahman KO'd Lennox Lewis. Kushner, Rahman's promoter, waited at the hotel, for Rahman to turn up, and after 4 hours had to go home. Found later that King had diddled him.
NOW you can close your big mouth, apologise to me, and we'll call it QUITS....
Can't pronounce Juan Manuel Marquez. Almost called Pac, pancake. Misremembers Pacquiao getting knocked out of the ring when that never happened. Then talks about Marquez being juice up when Chad Sonnen himself failed 3 drug tests and was caught with HGH in his system among other PEDS... This guy is an idiot trying to be controversial and funny but he just comes off as a whiny little bitch in the end. Also Manny doesn't really need to promote anything.. he can just be himself and legions of Pinoy's will sniff his farts for eternity and buy up any PPV event.
"Manny would have to have a friend help him if he came across a test to spell Pacquiao ..... "
BUT this guy said this:
"He gave me 2 tickets with Manny fighting Mon, Man,.... Marquez! Man, Muel Marquez ... then Marquez Jr shows up all juiced up"
:haha:
Dude, you are calling Manny dumb but then you are having a hell of a lot of trouble saying Juan Manuel Marquez!
Remember that Manny's first language is NOT English. So his interviews will not be as good as an English speaking American ... but he has improved over the years.
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"Manny Pacquiao who would have to have a friend to help him spell Pacquiao." :rofl:
Even the casuals know he's dumb as ****. The guy is so dumb he signed for two promoters at the same time. :rofl:
No he didn't . There's a lot more to the story than you seem to know. SO if you can close that huge mouth, in your photo, for a while I'll tell you..
Pacquiao was signed with Arum, and was very happy with him. But Oscar, who was always edgy about Arum, when they weren't actually having pitched battles, tried to sneak Pacquiao away. He was in a period where he tried to do this to several promoters.
So one light, late, he turned up at the airport to meet P. who had just come off a 16 hour flight, he wanted just to get to bed in the worst way. Oscar was very insistent, and P. was polite, as is inbred in Asians, and Oscar almost dragged P. to a hotel restaurant and made him face a large meal, talking all the time. P. in those days, hardly understood any English, and Oscar didn't speak Tagalog. He kept pushing a contract under P's nose... P just as often, pushed it away. He didn't want to sign anything he wanted to go to bed.
Oscar kept him there for 2 1/2 hours, and P. finally got fed up, and scribbled his signature, knowing it was no use to Oscar as he was already well signed up by Arum.. Oscar knew this too but he wanted to make trouble for Arum. So P. got off to bed, and then Oscar made it public that P. had signed with him. There were letters exchanged between Arum and Oscar, and after a long period, Arum agreed to pay Oscar the usual "undisclosed" %age of the net proceeds earned by P. and Oscar released P. It was rumoured to be 2/3%......... BUT....
ONLY FOR FIGHTS BETWEEN P. and A Golden Boy boxer, for a limited period. He explained to a BoxingScene reporter, that it was much cheaper to do this than the legal costs would have been, and might cost him nothing in the long run.
So......NOT Dumb just tired, both from the flight and from Oscar. Now you can open your mouth again..
"Manny Pacquiao who would have to have a friend to help him spell Pacquiao." :rofl:
Even the casuals know he's dumb as ****. The guy is so dumb he signed for two promoters at the same time. :rofl:
you showed up... in a thread about dumb cunts
ironic
and you made the first post, spooky :lol1::lol1:
Nah. He's actually a smart guy. Dog eating Pacroid however...
He might be eloquent but he certainly isn’t smart.
Unless he’s purposely saying stupid things to get a reaction and clicks for his page.
If that’s the case then I guess he is smart. Lacking in self respect but smart none the less.