Lol yes he is.
Fernando Vargas has wins over Winky Wright, Ike Quartey and Javier Castillejo.
Adult Steroid Canelo beats the shit out of Vargas.
the child Canelo who fought Kirkland loses to Vargas.
You losers always claim that the older boxer wins any matchup. That's a given.
LOL Golovkin is better than Winky Wright???
You’re high.
Winky Wright beat Shane Mosley twice and won every round against Felix Trinidad.
Vargas would have outclassed Canelo too.
Ike Quartey would have beaten Canelo too.
Vargas isn't in Canelos class...well maybe he was then Canelo was 19
Yes, he had been busted at that point. Read my post again, I said Mosley sucked when he got off the juice. That's why Winky and everyone else beat him.
Mosley was just too small for 154lbs with or without PEDS.
Canelo's speed and chin will prevail. Tito had power, but a weak chin. At 154 his was at his best, but he would lose in a shoot out against Canelo. Something akin to Hagler vs Hearns type action.
You’re the one who said Mosley wasn’t juicing when he fought Wright, not me.
Yes, he had been busted at that point. Read my post again, I said Mosley sucked when he got off the juice. That's why Winky and everyone else beat him.
I'll take Tito at 154. I think the Canelo we're seeing now at 160-168 is more of a prime version with actual experience against top level fighters. Tito at 154 may get hit but Canelo's never seen anything like Trinidad at 154 who very likely would hurt him if not stop him.
Shane Mosley used BALCO for the first Winky Wright fight.
Trinidad didn’t have one foot out the door. The fight was a title eliminator. He was trying to win a title again. No one fights Winky Wright as a farewell to boxing LOL.
Wright losing to Vargas proves how good Vargas was, given that Wright beat Mosley twice and Felix Trinidad.
Mosley was juiced up for only one fight? Yeah ok. ;) Whatever you say.
Mosley was on PEDS before the Oscar robberies. He was a cheating scumbag piece of sh..it.
"Sugar" Shane Mosley told a grand jury in 2003 that he injected himself with the doping agent EPO as he prepared for a fight against Oscar De La Hoya, according to court transcripts and doping calendars reviewed by the New York Daily News.
Shane Mosley admits EPO use before Oscar De La Hoya bout (espn.com)
Trinidad wins at 154, Canelo's stamina at that weight, skills at the time and slow feet are serious weakness against peak Tito Trinidad. I think it would be another classic though, just like Trinidad vs Vargas.
Love how you try and rewrite history. Did he flash knockdown tito yes(which happened alot to him) but he was nowhere near hurt like u try and say pr anywhere near out. Nice try tho.
GGG brutally KOs Trinidad and literally kills Vargas. Neither survives 24 rounds. Canelo did.
LOL Golovkin is better than Winky Wright???
You’re high.
Winky Wright beat Shane Mosley twice and won every round against Felix Trinidad.
Vargas would have outclassed Canelo too.
Ike Quartey would have beaten Canelo too.
Stinky beat a BALCO-less Mosley and a Trinidad that already had one foot out the door with his boxing career and didn't have his loaded handwraps.
Mosley was a proven cheater and it showed when he had the BALCO PEDs out of his system. He wasn't the same fighter that was juiced up in the De la Hoya robberies.
Stinky lost to a fat Vargas who was drinking Nyquil just to sleep because his entire training regimen was him trying to lose weight.
Canelo KOs Vargas and outpoints Quartey.
Yes almost out. When he dropped Tito and was going for the kill before Tito landed a couple of hooks on Vargas' nuts.
Love how you try and rewrite history. Did he flash knockdown tito yes(which happened alot to him) but he was nowhere near hurt like u try and say pr anywhere near out. Nice try tho.
Trinidad by brutal knockout.
Canelo was not in his class back at 154 nor was he anywhere near Fernando Vargas’ class.
Vargas beat Winky Wright, who’s better than anyone on Canelo’s resume and Canelo himself.
LOL!! Canelo would beat both Stinky and Varglass in at the same time.
Winky better than anyone on Canelo's resume? LOL! GGG says hi. GGG would decapitate Vargas, probably kill him and I'm being honest, land Trinidad in the hospital and brutally KO Winky Stinky. None of them would last 12, let alone 24 rounds with GGG.
canelo makes tito gun shy, just like he did cotto...
anyways P4P canelo > tito, that means weight aside...
Tito isn't 5'8 natural jww tho thats the difference. Tito had long arms taller naturally bigger than cotto and with LOTS more power. CLENELO would be scared to let his hands go. Tito would finish what cottos older smaller little brother started and thats lay CLENELO out.
Trinidad is an EXCLAIMINATION POINT fighter...meaning he was caught with alternated hand wraps, and I'm 100% sure that fight he was caught wasn't the fight time he had loaded hand wraps tricked up hand wraps.
With loaded handwraps @ 54 I'd favor Trinidad. Canelo beats him at every other weight.
nice try trying to rewrite history u fucking hating ass clown. Tito never loaded his gloves just hand wraps weren't in accordance to the NY commission at the time but was fine anywhere else. Here ill let the experts talk about it you know the people that were there that night. Also let's listen to Bernard talk about tito power on that same night.
https://youtu.be/pFGC8ekdEm4
https://youtu.be/K2jFRUCiPdI
Unlike margacheato who LOADED his gloves Trinidad never needed to do that And the own trainer for Hopkins that was the one who made tito reward explains it to u.
Trinidad is an EXCLAIMINATION POINT fighter...meaning he was caught with alternated hand wraps, and I'm 100% sure that fight he was caught wasn't the fight time he had loaded hand wraps tricked up hand wraps.
With loaded handwraps @ 54 I'd favor Trinidad. Canelo beats him at every other weight.
Canelos head and waist movement would give tito big problems just like de la hoyas fast footwork, and canelos fast hands and accuracy more problems just like dlh, the difference being canelo would be there for the 12 rounds.
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