Spence: Crawford needs to accept 70/30 or whtevr we give.Canelo a possibility for me.

huh? he can still pursue a pac fight or a thurman fight....at 147 lol i dont care what your opinion of thurman or pac is...those are both feasible and good fights....spence is not out of options at 147 yet...not at all... ... good luck with these two "feasible" fights...

Skill-wise I'd agree it should be 50/50. Revenue-wise Errol should get the bigger piece of the pie. This is a asses in seats money & PPV buys business. Errol is better at that than Bud is. I mean c'mon Bud's fooking promoter is saying he's losing money on him ffs. That's not a guy who's in any position for a 50/50 big money fight. Yeah you're right I know Spence sells more. I said to give him the edge, for the exact reasons you stated.

I just want Errol to WANT the fight. I am a Boxing fan and those two are clearly the stand out guys in the division and in the sport as a whole. Its funny how PBC fans keep going on about how much it meant at Heavyweight when number 1 and number 2 fought yet at 147 number 1 and number 2 are Bud and Errol and one of them, as you have just acknowledged keeps distancing themselves from the fight. Like I keep saying, errol has acted noticeabley dismissive of Crawford ever since he turned up at 147, the PBC leave Crawford out even when they do list of 147 champions. It's fkking embarrassing. Errol hasn’t shown that he doesn’t want the fight. What he hasn’t done is act subservient and like he is the challenger chasing the champion. What you want is Errol to act as if he is the lesser fighter because he is with pbc. Sorry but that will not happen nor should it. Posters Calling you out for your biased opinion and false narratives isn’t distancing themselves from the fight. You’re just full of sh-t and biased. Like I said, if he is dismissive so what? When you’re on top you ignore a lot of stuff. You don’t see the Chiefs or Alabama calling other teams out do you? Of course not. Now you’re stuck in the past. PBC did that over a year ago and all of us called them out for it. At the last fight they put Crawford and his title on screen and then showed him in the crowd and talked about him. What they didn’t do is give him a platform to speak. They also hyped their fighters ahead of him. Its obvious you wanted pbc to use airtime to hype Crawford rather than the other 147lb fighters on their roster. You would never ask another promoter or network to do that nor would you do that for Errol if you worked at a competing company. Why do want pbc and their fighters to make up for the deficiencies other companies have in marketing their fighters?

The PBC fans would be more than happy to see that fight but just not on ESPN's, Top Rank's and Crawford's terms. If that fight happens it's going to have to be on Fox Sports PBC because Spence and Haymon hold all the bargaining chips, cards and the upper hand at the moment. They don't need Crawford but Crawford needs them. So if Crawford is truly serious about fighting Spence he knows what he has to do. He can start by following the Manny Pacquiao blueprint in signing with Haymon as a free agent for a one fight deal and possibly an option for a second fight. He doesn't need to go and sign with anybody, the PBC can make an offer to Bud. It doesn't have to be cross promotion. Where has this stupid thing come from about needing to cross a street and sign with PBC? Hey it don't matter, Spence dont want to fight Bud, what ever, best fight in the division, one of the biggest in the sport and a unification fight too. Forget it. If Spence is scared Spence is scared and he really is, I know a duck when I see one.

Crawford walked straight to Spences face and told him the deal, Spence had been intimidated since then. He knows there is no punk in Crawford and he doesn’t seem to want any part of it.

Normally, I would agree with you but the fact is Arum is telling the truth. He has lost a lot of money on Bud Crawford fights. Terence is a non charismatic fighter with no hustle, angle, schtick or loyal following or fanbase; To the point where it has become very difficult for casual fans to even notice him. A joint promotion between ESPN and Fox would be catastrophic for both platforms because Crawford doesn't bring any new boxing fans with him to the sport. Both Haymon and Arum would lose money on a joint promotion. This is an under rated post. You know who used to be in the exact same position as Crawford? Yup, Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather. Being a great fighter is only half the equation. If you don’t have charisma and don’t draw fans you’re not going to always get big fights. Other posters are talking about Canelo. Canelo would welcome a Spence fight because of the money it could make and because it’s not a high risk given the size difference. My suggestion to Crawford- become Terrance Cash Crawford. Keep in mind ODH didn’t fight Pretty Boy Floyd, he fought Money Mayweather.

I like both men but Crawford has to understand that Spence has the better resume. What’s the fkn big deal taking a 40/60? Their BOTH rich as fk. So suck it up Crawford. If your as good as u think. You will win anyways. Then U can control the money. I don’t think some of these boxers believe in themselves enough. Few are real men. Look what Spence did. He went to England and fought. How many champions do that in their prime? Answer- VERY VERY FEW.

Bottom line Spence doesn’t want the fight, period. This is what’s killing boxing, not Tyson or Floyd fighting YouTubers.

So what if he is dismissive? It’s not errol’s job to hype the fight and make Crawford seem like a threat. You want Errol to act like Crawford is his equal at WW. That he doesn’t in no way suggests he doesn’t want the fight. Errol is the recognized best ww in the world. Everyone at ww wants to fight him or the biggest money fight, Manny. It’s almost as if you think Errol is challenging Crawford for the wbo title and he needs to beg Crawford for a fight. Don’t get it twisted Son. Crawford is challenging Errol for the top spot at ww. You’re out of you’re f-cking mind if you think that is how a champion of errols stature is supposed to show he wants a fight. You expect him to show up at Crawford’s fights? Not until the fight gets signed. I just want Errol to WANT the fight. I am a Boxing fan and those two are clearly the stand out guys in the division and in the sport as a whole. Its funny how PBC fans keep going on about how much it meant at Heavyweight when number 1 and number 2 fought yet at 147 number 1 and number 2 are Bud and Errol and one of them, as you have just acknowledged keeps distancing themselves from the fight. Like I keep saying, errol has acted noticeabley dismissive of Crawford ever since he turned up at 147, the PBC leave Crawford out even when they do list of 147 champions. It's fkking embarrassing.

When did Spence become a draw?

But maybe that is what Bob wants the other promoters to think so that they don't snatch Bud Crawford from him. Thia fool could be playing mind games tryna brainphuck Crawford into staying and brainfuphuck the other promoters into staying away from Crawford.Normally, I would agree with you but the fact is Arum is telling the truth. He has lost a lot of money on Bud Crawford fights. Terence is a non charismatic fighter with no hustle, angle, schtick or loyal following or fanbase; To the point where it has become very difficult for casual fans to even notice him. A joint promotion between ESPN and Fox would be catastrophic for both platforms because Crawford doesn't bring any new boxing fans with him to the sport. Both Haymon and Arum would lose money on a joint promotion.

crapford should be happy with a 90/10 split, his best opponent/win was some guy from Lithuania who's named needs to be googled first, and even he bashed him around half of the fight lol

LOL why should he? Wasn't it Spence calling strap season? Crawford got a strap. Everybody wants that fight, I can't believe PBC fans so happy to dismiss it. Also, you really think he is going to fight Canelo? For real? He's clout chasing. He's never going to do that, plz don't fall for that nonsense.The PBC fans would be more than happy to see that fight but just not on ESPN's, Top Rank's and Crawford's terms. If that fight happens it's going to have to be on Fox Sports PBC because Spence and Haymon hold all the bargaining chips, cards and the upper hand at the moment. They don't need Crawford but Crawford needs them. So if Crawford is truly serious about fighting Spence he knows what he has to do. He can start by following the Manny Pacquiao blueprint in signing with Haymon as a free agent for a one fight deal and possibly an option for a second fight.

No, I fully believed Mikey and I don't remember all the talk being about Mikey clout chasing either. But I don't believe Spence. Hey, you wana believe Spence you go for it, but I don't and in my opinion I already see the game playing out, "why would he be scared to fight Crawford when he is calling Canelo out? ". PBC play smoke and mirrors all the time, ducking Crawford and talking about Canelo, it's all smoke and mirrors. But it's all lame and transparent, only idiots fall for the BS. Then you must be new hear, because almost EVERYONE out here kept saying Mikey was lying and wouldn't take the fight just like you are saying about Spence.

Crawford said the same thing but it's only ducking when Errol says it apparently

Lol Crawford doesn't even want to negotiate cause he knows Spence got him pinned already cause Crawford has no more bad moves, also Arum trashing everything except his skills about Crawford, and to add even more we all know Spence is the A side of the two he also has the better resume at 147 Crawford said hes going back to 135 lol and I believe he will move on to another fight, but if he doesn't want hurt his pride a bit in negotiations with Spence, he thinks moving down won't look worst ? fightings a bunch of nobodies at 147 IMO i think he should negotiate the fight and then expose Spence for being a diva, and drive the narrative that he just wants to beat Spence bad that he might of taken the B side role and do it for the fans n sport of boxing, it would still easily be his biggest payday, I think Buds anger is getting to him also he knows he'll be the B side and Spence will poke him through out the conferences and promos, but oh well, hes pride wont let him sign to Haymon neither when Haymon is clearly the best thing for any boxer dont matter if your an old dog like Angulo or the TBE Money May he will look for your best options, he shouldn't go back to Arum....... So he'll maybe sign to Eddy(DAZN) to gain some negotiating($$$) leverage against Spence that wouldn't be a bad move will see, I believe he still has one more fight left with Arum

I hate these negotiations through the media. Crawford says he is on the A side too so it is up to their promotional companies to put something together.

Which fighters? I'm saying I understand if Spence and Crawford fought Spence deserves a bigger cut. But Spence don't want it. Like I said if you can't see it you are dumb and you ain't dumb so you are playing dumb. Spence has been blatantly dismissive of Crawford since he arrived at 147. Which other fighters we talking about? Wilder? Tank? Plant? So what if he is dismissive? It’s not errol’s job to hype the fight and make Crawford seem like a threat. You want Errol to act like Crawford is his equal at WW. That he doesn’t in no way suggests he doesn’t want the fight. Errol is the recognized best ww in the world. Everyone at ww wants to fight him or the biggest money fight, Manny. It’s almost as if you think Errol is challenging Crawford for the wbo title and he needs to beg Crawford for a fight. Don’t get it twisted Son. Crawford is challenging Errol for the top spot at ww. You’re out of you’re f-cking mind if you think that is how a champion of errols stature is supposed to show he wants a fight. You expect him to show up at Crawford’s fights? Not until the fight gets signed.

What was he doing at the fight (Like he asked of Crawford when asked) Why did DAZN interview him (Would Showtime or FOX had interview Crawford in the same scenario)? Isn’t that showcasing him? Has PBC ever offered anyone a genuine money fight (In fights that the fans asked for)? This are the questions a boxing fan should be asking.

Boy cap... Errol Spence know damn well Canelo ain't no possibility. He's just mentioning his name for leverage in Bud negotiations. Two of his biggest wins are against two blown up Latinos... now I'm to believe he's going to fight one naturally bigger than him?