Yet only a few weird Klitschko fans rank him in the top five all time.
Not undisputed, won lineal based on some Ring made up nonsense that did not exist before him, and his resume in all that time is ass despite his career overlapping good names, and he lost B-siders while avoiding those names any damn way.
Wlad's hard to surpass in one aspect alone and that one aspect hasn't gotten him any form of consensus top all time rating yet, so, no, he's not that damn hard to beat.
Be undisputed, be a true lineal, and put together a decent resume and you've passed Wlad.
What is this nonsense you wrote? Wlad never avoided anyone and always fought the best available, even in the twilight of his career. He was the lineal champ not because of some of ring nonsense but because he was literally unquestioned best heavyweight in the world who collected 3/4 of belts.
Again, you can be undisputed for 3 fights but that won’t make your resume better than Wlads, not unless you have a 10 year reign and 15+ defenses. Sorry but those are just the facts.
Kinda hard to see Joshua not passing Wlad in all regards unless he loses a bit.
He could stay the 3 belt champion, never pick up lineal which Wlad had, but picks up a better resume and could, I doubt it, but could match longevity. Belts are equal, resume to Joshua, lineal to Wlad, longevity equal. Put's Joshua at abouts Wlad's level, but, that far fetched as ****.
If he attains lineal he also has undisputed. Wlad wasn't, so resume and awards go to Joshua where Wlad'll probably stay as the most defenses for a long time. That's more likely and in my book that make Joshua a higher ATG than Wlad.
Or, just as if not even more likely, Fury beats Joshua and passes Wlad himself.
Wlad has 23 title wins, he has over 20 title defenses, and about 18 consecutive ones, he's had about a 10 year consecutive reign as champ. That is a tall order to surpass for any boxer.
Anything is possible, but I wouldn't put my money on Anthony Joshua matching Wladimir in terms of accomplishments.
You should think twice... you make some pretty eyebrow raising statements regarding technical matter. May I suggest something? Go to Youtube and search for remastered Sonny Liston... You will get a very viewable fight with a no name fighter contender at the time...
Heres why this is relevant: Forget Liston and look at all the things the contender does in two rounds... Parry, circle/angles, counters, feints, defensively tight guard, body work... And the footwork, we just don't see.
Now look at an AJ, Klitsko fight... watch the flinching, the straight arms shooting out (Vlad), watch how limited Joshua is...
Then watch Fury. You will see footwork, angles, feints, defensive positioning, footwork...it will look a lot more like a complete fighter with many skills.
Heavyweights do not have to try to punch hard to get concussive force... Fury, aside from flanging his elbows out occasionally (not a good habit) hits as hard as he needs to. Look at his KO percentage.
If Joshua finds a way to beat Fury it would suprise me.In short, if Fury doesn't stopped AJ, then there's no way he is winning on the three official judges scorecards with constant movement and playing keep away in order to run out the clock against Joshua. He is going to have to take the fight to him like he did against Wilder in the rematch in order to win.
However, Joshua doesn't have just one weapon in his arsenal. He is the more technical, well-rounded and fundamentally sound of the two fighters when compared to Deontay Wilder and I still remain unconvinced of Fury's new found punching power. It was a complete hoax in which he used a type of subterfuge in order to deceive the public.
On an even playing field, Joshua easily outpoints Fury. He is the harder puncher of the two and has the better whiskers also.
Lennox wanted to be undisputed Lennox would fight anyone and everyone. Joshua is a manufactured coward, which explains why you like him so much. Joshua will do whatever his handlers tell him. Joshua looks nervous and second guesses himself when being asked what the weather is like outside. They are nothing alike.
Exactly! Comparing the robot to Lewis tarnishes a great career.
It took Lennox about 9 years to be undisputed and unified champion and never went for an immediate rematch against McCall, he actually took years to avenge a loss and switch multiple trainers when things got hard and needed hall of fame trainer Emmanuel Steward to actual avenge his loss and took McCall’s trainer or he wouldn’t have had the career he did and retired off a fight from a bigger guy he was scared of .
AJ will surpass Lewis in achievements ,only a matter of time to go full circle . Lewis didn’t like southpaws either , AJ thrives on them and with the new era there’s more fighters that switch up the stances and are bigger athletes.AJ doing great and off to a ATG career .
Some of you really have wild imaginations and quite a bit of revisionist history. Lennox Lewis fought the best, and AJ will probably never have a resume like Lewis, and by the end of his career will more than likely have 4 or more losses.
Jesus christ ,Fury is going to destroy AJ and thats his career over
He wont hang them up besting everyone he faced like lewis did ,he will get completely outclassed
Yup. Probably so. If we were bookies in Vegas... we would have to figure out the odds for this one... The first question would be... What is AJ's path to victory? Let say he hurts Fury with a big punch... He cannot cut the ring down, has medium speed regarding feet, has basically a right and an uppercut which can be avoided. REally common sense should tell us, baring a miracle leap in learning curve, that at best AJ can hurt Fury.
Fury on the other hand: Has a chin to take a Joshua right... Has shown the ability to win at a distance, finish an opponent, uses his reach impeccably, feint, has many punches and an inside game, fast feet...
Against a common ATG One man went life and death, the other... made it look easy.
I'm a new Anthony Joshua fan until he fights Deontay Wilder. AJ is the total package.
He puts his punches together, he throws his combination punches in bunches and in addition, he throws his whole body into his punches.
Unlike Tyson Fury who throws mainly pitty-pat arm punches; With little to know power on them which explains why he couldn't put Wilder away.
You should think twice... you make some pretty eyebrow raising statements regarding technical matter. May I suggest something? Go to Youtube and search for remastered Sonny Liston... You will get a very viewable fight with a no name fighter contender at the time...
Heres why this is relevant: Forget Liston and look at all the things the contender does in two rounds... Parry, circle/angles, counters, feints, defensively tight guard, body work... And the footwork, we just don't see.
Now look at an AJ, Klitsko fight... watch the flinching, the straight arms shooting out (Vlad), watch how limited Joshua is...
Then watch Fury. You will see footwork, angles, feints, defensive positioning, footwork...it will look a lot more like a complete fighter with many skills.
Heavyweights do not have to try to punch hard to get concussive force... Fury, aside from flanging his elbows out occasionally (not a good habit) hits as hard as he needs to. Look at his KO percentage.
If Joshua finds a way to beat Fury it would suprise me.
I believe Hearn wants Joshua to be the next Wladimir.
Unfortunately, there is another champ around , who is not Joshua`s brother. If Joshua fights Fury, he will get a beating.
Lennox wanted to be undisputed Lennox would fight anyone and everyone. Joshua is a manufactured coward, which explains why you like him so much. Joshua will do whatever his handlers tell him. Joshua looks nervous and second guesses himself when being asked what the weather is like outside. They are nothing alike.
LOL it's posts like that that really highlights why your contributions are not the least bit respected. A manufactured coward lol. You so salty. You tend to get worse just after a Joshua victory.
Lennox Lewis seems to be naturally more tough than Joshua both inside and outside of the ring. I dislike the way Joshua lets people step to, and attempt to intimidate him outside of the ring constantly 'I suppose he does handle business in the ring, but sometimes you cannot let these weasels take liberties'.
Just simple things like? Why on earth was he agreeing to bang fists with Pulev? Joshua let Pulev dictate that situation 'These are school boy tactics fighters throw at him'.
Yeah, Joshua let Ruiz hold his belts, meanwhile last year at an event with Bowe there, Lennox told him “you can’t stand here, go stand somewhere else.” When Bowe tried to stand beside Lewis for the photo lmao.
It took Lennox about 9 years to be undisputed and unified champion and never went for an immediate rematch against McCall, he actually took years to avenge a loss and switch multiple trainers when things got hard and needed hall of fame trainer Emmanuel Steward to actual avenge his loss and took McCall’s trainer or he wouldn’t have had the career he did and retired off a fight from a bigger guy he was scared of .
AJ will surpass Lewis in achievements ,only a matter of time to go full circle . Lewis didn’t like southpaws either , AJ thrives on them and with the new era there’s more fighters that switch up the stances and are bigger athletes.AJ doing great and off to a ATG career .
Jesus christ ,Fury is going to destroy AJ and thats his career over
He wont hang them up besting everyone he faced like lewis did ,he will get completely outclassed
chinny and fight very cautious after they got rocked
used to be more offensive minded before their first KO loss.
If steward was still around (rip) you best believe Joshua would have went to him for Ruiz 2. Atleast he sticked and moved though instead of hugging him to death.
Lennox wanted to be undisputed Lennox would fight anyone and everyone. Joshua is a manufactured coward, which explains why you like him so much. Joshua will do whatever his handlers tell him. Joshua looks nervous and second guesses himself when being asked what the weather is like outside. They are nothing alike.
Lennox Lewis seems to be naturally more tough than Joshua both inside and outside of the ring. I dislike the way Joshua lets people step to, and attempt to intimidate him outside of the ring constantly 'I suppose he does handle business in the ring, but sometimes you cannot let these weasels take liberties'.
Just simple things like? Why on earth was he agreeing to bang fists with Pulev? Joshua let Pulev dictate that situation 'These are school boy tactics fighters throw at him'.
I'm a new Anthony Joshua fan until he fights Deontay Wilder. AJ is the total package.
He puts his punches together, he throws his combination punches in bunches and in addition, he throws his whole body into his punches.
Unlike Tyson Fury who throws mainly pitty-pat arm punches; With little to know power on them which explains why he couldn't put Wilder away.
Lennox wanted to be undisputed Lennox would fight anyone and everyone. Joshua is a manufactured coward, which explains why you like him so much. Joshua will do whatever his handlers tell him. Joshua looks nervous and second guesses himself when being asked what the weather is like outside. They are nothing alike.
Are you seriously calling a guy who steps into the ring to fight professionally a coward? A guy who was brutally stopped and then immediately took a rematch against the guy who finished and got his revenge?
SMH at stupid comments like this