..... rather than seeing Joshua/Usyk in April and Fury/Wilder3 at the same time, then the winners facing off in late summer in a proper event with full attendance?
I think we can wait one more fight for each before the big one, can't we? 3/4 months is FA and flies by.
What do you guys think? Fury/Joshua next or both having one more fight leading into the undisputed?
Not even sure I believe that TBH. I just dont trust anything Hearn says TBH
British Boxing scene is pretty small........... and Hearn doesn't even need to drop that bomb, he's already the richest ***** in UK and world boxing.
That would be a weird lie to me........ like Juggernaut admitting he's a ***** and has a shiat garage and taped-up weights, and lifts them on what looks like an old computer chair, and that he's mentally ill and needs help.
PS - Never say "TBH" once in a sentence, never mind twice......... because people reading it think you are dishonest and hiding something.
You live remote? got a bunker? got any one locked up?
Where you live? be totally honest.
He said he had 3 amateur fights.......... that is literally 3 fights with fellow amateurs from different clubs in the area.
No one is saying he had a career, or went beyond the gym, or entered a ranking tournament.
Not even sure I believe that TBH. I just dont trust anything Hearn says TBH
As I keep saying. Joshua fans are dumb. I remember flipping past channels and seeing a lucozade ad with him in it during love Island. I thought to myself "this is the typical AJ/Hearniac, a lucozade drinking moron who watches love Island looool"
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Don’t worry, we won’t judge you for watching love island - that is your choice.
It’s lucozade who will choose where to advertise their products, nothing to do with Eddie Hearn. Obviously having a brand like Joshua is a huge marketing tool so they are going to advertise on tv across numerous programmes if they invest so many millions into using a popular name such as him - fairly obvious?
Anyways will leave you to get back to life island. Have a good Christmas
Vinnykin No you just lied as usual on the forum . There were no restrictions of travel in your country,in fact the U.S said anyone traveling from the U.K is permitted with a passable Covid test .
The contagion strains aren’t new here ,get a grip . In fact it was reported in the U.S we have several but it also doesn’t effect the vaccine taken because the strain as far as we know isn’t deadlier .
Again you just don’t want the fight but I guarantee you will be gone when Fury takes that L, better put me on ignore now . Yea merry Xmas but you know you lie on here and that gets you on Santa’s naughty list . Ha
Because I am feeling the festive day.............. I did not lie, I just tried to highlight how bad things actually were regarding travel this year. Like I said before, I work in logistics, and I have seen a shutdown of flights the last few days, been a nightmare trying to get stuff over the blockade at the ports. It's now went from the middle-east will show the fight to you now saying "the US is open"
37 countries have been shut down for UK travel in the EU alone, that is current as you are reading this (new covid strain, not Brexit).
Middle-east is testing negative 96 hours before departure, and same on the way back...... 2 week-isolation if you test positive, and you pay.
Why are you even travelling and wanting to arrange a fight right now?
This is what it boils down to........ you accusing me of being scared of Joshua and me asking you what is the point in organising anything in any country right now.
It doesn't make sense....... I can't reiterate enough how much I want the fight, I just want piece of mind it goes ahead, first, and I want to see less restrictions and want fans (me) at the fight, second, wherever it may be.
I think this can be achieved in 4-10 months, depending on vaccination success.
18 hours before tier 4lockdown in Aberdeenshire............ I have to kick my brother and mates out my house at 00:01 on the 26th (no joke), I'm breaking the law having them here at one minute past.
Vinnykin No you just lied as usual on the forum . There were no restrictions of travel in your country,in fact the U.S said anyone traveling from the U.K is permitted with a passable Covid test .
The contagion strains aren’t new here ,get a grip . In fact it was reported in the U.S we have several but it also doesn’t effect the vaccine taken because the strain as far as we know isn’t deadlier .
Again you just don’t want the fight but I guarantee you will be gone when Fury takes that L, better out me on ignore now . Yea merry Xmas but you know you lie on here and that gets you on Santa’s naughty list . Ha
I've been wanting this fight for years, in fact, I agree with Joshua..... he is only getting better in my eyes, slow increments, the guy is talking in interviews about keeping range against Ruiz, like he's just had a lightbulb moment.
Fury was always Fury, learned his IQ 5 years ago, just needed momentum and staying in-shape, keeping fit, been saying this for 10 years!!!! ........ I really do want the best for my fighter going into the biggest fight in history, and Joshua...... on top of the covid problems.
I want Fury to have a tune-up....... I don't want him fighting in May and being rusty for 2 rounds....... I seen iy against Wilder what happens with these punchers...... and that's the only chance Joshua has, believe that.
As I keep saying. Joshua fans are dumb. I remember flipping past channels and seeing a lucozade ad with him in it during love Island. I thought to myself "this is the typical AJ/Hearniac, a lucozade drinking moron who watches love Island looool"
I mean, seriously, we have just learned of two new even more contagious strains of coronavirus, a border fiasco with France and numerous countries banning travel from the UK and you somehow think there are going to be significant crowds by the first half of next year??? Christ almighty youre slow.
To be fair to Redeemer, these things happened after the fact. I was trying to explain covid restrictions to him and why it's better to wait but he couldn't comprehend things change, or could change.
The fact it went **** up was just luck.
Merry Xmas everyone.
It was BS the "amateur boxing" background was a white collar fight with his dad. Its literally in a feature the Guardian did on him.
He said he had 3 amateur fights.......... that is literally 3 fights with fellow amateurs from different clubs in the area.
No one is saying he had a career, or went beyond the gym, or entered a ranking tournament.
It was about Hearn having a few amateur fights for a boxing club as a teenager. Guy was saying it's BS.
It was BS the "amateur boxing" background was a white collar fight with his dad. Its literally in a feature the Guardian did on him.
No ones delaying anything ,the fight will happen within 5 months from now . Usyk is an undisputed champion who could have fought AJ by now because that is his right as a former WBO champion at CW and has a valid ruling where he was allowed to activate his mandatory position .
Despite what this clown Vinnykin says it will be also for undisputed and will have a fairly large crowd with the current restrictions . Let the panic begin ,many Fury fans will be unhappy but this fight is going ahead ,so crying about money, venues and mismatches isn’t going to stop it .
As I keep saying. Joshua fans are dumb. I remember flipping past channels and seeing a lucozade ad with him in it during love Island. I thought to myself "this is the typical AJ/Hearniac, a lucozade drinking moron who watches love Island looool"
I mean, seriously, we have just learned of two new even more contagious strains of coronavirus, a border fiasco with France and numerous countries banning travel from the UK and you somehow think there are going to be significant crowds by the first half of next year??? Christ almighty youre slow.
I'm unclear on what your point was about Hearn. Can you clarify please.
It was about Hearn having a few amateur fights for a boxing club as a teenager. Guy was saying it's BS.
There are no restrictions for travel in your country if someone has a negative test to come over to the U.S if that’s a problem and it wouldn’t apply to a champion athlete who can take a private plane would it ?
N.Y is actually requiring anyone from the U.K to have a negative test and that strain you speak off is not a new strain it’s here ,you guys are just behind and have far less a population to see various strains in your countries. You don’t even know what’s going on ? Ha
It doesn’t matter what you want ,go tell Hearn and Arum to cancel the fight because you want to go see it ? Like I said get off the drugs and remember just because your country has restricted wing around certain areas for the holid doesn’t remo effect a fight that will go ahead of schedule with a plan of April/ June added you would go see it but make up odd ball excuses for it not to happen which is contradictory to because no one can see it if it doesn’t happen ? Ha
Tier 4 lockdown from 0:01 tomorrow (boxing day), less than 24 hours...... and who the **** is travelling during even tier 3???...... the guidance is to stay within your council area. There are literally lorry drivers scrapping with police at the border trying to get tested, so they can get over to France and home within the next 3 days........ missing Xmas for sure.
You are living in another UK from me.......... I wouldn't be organising shiat right now.
That's just my opinion, my man........ It's Xmas day and I'm away to bed........ hope you have a good one and hope there's no hard feelings :fing02:
I just don't want it in the UK while this pandemic is going on...... no travelling or restrictions and no fans.
F THAT rather than waiting for things to open up.
If you can't imagine the fans, the positivity that would bring to the UK post-pandemic..... the iconic images.
What fan of either fighter would want it in Cardiff in April under a roof with a few thousand fans from the local area?
F that. I am willing to wait under the circumstances....... not during a pandemic.
Edit: And about Eddie Hearn...... I seen an interview with one of his young fighters being trained by one of Hearns ex-coaches from the amateur boxing club he went to (British/Olympic registered) ....... **** that was years ago and can't remember the boxer or coach, but they reminisced about when Eddie was there......
Pretty lame evidence....... I'm sure Bellew was an amateur at the same time and mentioned it but I'm going back over 10 years here.
I just thought it was accepted...... too many people in British boxing and everyone knows all the gyms and fighters, he'd be exposed quick if it was a lie. Amateur boxing fights at that level are hard to find.... only British/Euro/World/Olympic level is documented, not amateur fights between boxing gyms.
I'm unclear on what your point was about Hearn. Can you clarify please.
Just for context here......... I bought tickets to go and watch Haye vs Fury twice and it was cancelled both times.......... The second time I had booked hotels and train tickets and just went down and got wrecked any way, made a weekend out of it.
Who here, given the circumstances (I've had 6 jobs cancelled and been unable to travel in the last 9 months) would be willing to book tickets and hotels and flights for this fight?
People accusing me of being scared of this fight are absolute morons, and need a kick to the head. REDEEMER is the biggest idiot and needs a good hiding if he thinks I am scared of shiat.
You’ve been exposed as a true moron like not leaving the area for the holidays prevents an agreed upon fight to take place around spring time and probably not in the U.K ? Hit that panic button kid ,your absurdity is getting worse .
Joshua better sneak out of the area right away and get the final contract signed which hasn’t even been drawn up yet or this fight is cancelled immediately . Ha
You can't guarantee the fight takes place in any country with ever-changing restrictions in the next 5/6 months.
I want to go to the fight you dumbass. Not watch it in Saudi with no fans able to travel.
No ones delaying anything ,the fight will happen within 5 months from now . Usyk is an undisputed champion who could have fought AJ by now because that is his right as a former WBO champion at CW and has a valid ruling where he was allowed to activate his mandatory position .
Despite what this clown Vinnykin says it will be also for undisputed and will have a fairly large crowd with the current restrictions . Let the panic begin ,many Fury fans will be unhappy but this fight is going ahead ,so crying about money, venues and mismatches isn’t going to stop it .
Joshua is in Watford and tier 4 lockdown........ he'd be breaking the law if he left that area under the current restrictions that were all over the news yesterday.
Wake up you idiot.
What’s the point in waiting?
Wilder got annihilated by Fury. Who needs to see it again? The only chance Wilder had was against the 50% Fury the first time.
Usyk needs a few decent wins at heavyweight to build up any excitement of him fighting one of the top guys. Let him win the vacant WBO and defend it in some decent fights and then it builds him better too.
Makes no sense to delay it
Yes, i would have to agree? There is no point in waiting.
If the fight can be made for the undisputed titles 'Then make it happen at whatever location'.
Note: I only think the fight should not go ahead, if the undisputed title is not on the line etc.
I don't care if they fight in Antartica. Fury has been inactive and feasting on bums, aside from Wilder who many suspected was a fraud of a champion.
Joshua at least fights top 10 talent.
No more old men of top 20-50 types for title defenses.
Fury beat the number 2 at the time last February and gained the ring belt, you numpty.
Joshua was beaten and stopped last year, he lost his ranking, Fury is the number one and is chasing Joshua, now number two....... Fury only has to beat Joshua to solidify himself as the best.
I don't give a F that Joshua beat Breazeale, Povetkin, Pulev, Takam, Parker..... all easy wins for Fury and mostly midgets.
12,000 fight fans in attendance to watch Canelo yesterday during this pandemic. I admit and accept everything you are saying but the show will go on and promoters will take the risk because the fight is more than big enough to warrant taking the risk. That is my only point I’m trying to drive home. I don’t have to be a psychic to know this
Deontay Wilder has lost his chance of fighting for belt for the same concerns you have clarified
I believe things can change and new restrictions are being applied in nearly every country.
In the UK we have seen an alarming amount of new cases and a more virulent strain of covid is spreading rapidly, (70% more infectious and I believe it is more deadly as well)..... once that hits the US and starts spreading there we will see new restrictions there, especially when Biden takes charge.
So it's likely we will see more restrictions in place in the next few months right across the world, and it won't be contained until most of the populace is vaccinated...... later half of next year.
Canelo and Smith was good and getting fans there and all, but it wasn't a fight near the level of Joshua and Fury.
..... rather than seeing Joshua/Usyk in April and Fury/Wilder3 at the same time, then the winners facing off in late summer in a proper event with full attendance?
I think we can wait one more fight for each before the big one, can't we? 3/4 months is FA and flies by.
What do you guys think? Fury/Joshua next or both having one more fight leading into the undisputed?
I don't care if they fight in Antartica. Fury has been inactive and feasting on bums, aside from Wilder who many suspected was a fraud of a champion.
Joshua at least fights top 10 talent.
No more old men of top 20-50 types for title defenses.
Well glad you can see my POV at least, and are not resorting to the "your scared of fighting Joshua" I hear......... being an obvious Fury fan with my avatar and sig :rofl:
I just see people trapped in foreign countries and begging the UK government to get them home often. I have multiple work colleagues trapped in quarantine after testing positive abroad, unable to get home for Xmas...... empathy is something I try to espouse in my life. That applies to everything and so I would not advise people to travel until a vaccine takes effect, which will be late Summer going by the eggheads.
I understand the want from boxing fans, but it's more likely the fight happens later in the year.
If it gets announced the next few weeks....... it can be cancelled at any time depending on covid spread and travel restrictions.
You and I both know that is fact, so why not admit it?
12,000 fight fans in attendance to watch Canelo yesterday during this pandemic. I admit and accept everything you are saying but the show will go on and promoters will take the risk because the fight is more than big enough to warrant taking the risk. That is my only point I’m trying to drive home. I don’t have to be a psychic to know this
Deontay Wilder has lost his chance of fighting for belt for the same concerns you have clarified