for all those crying about the price of last nights ppv

stay hating fgt...i also brought over a handle of vodka and an 12 pack Sounds like it turned a little queer What happened after the vodka?

So you calling me a racist or not? Don't beat about the bush here, just spit it out. Racist or not racist? Ive had my opinions on GGG and Andrade. Wasn't Andrade offering Charlo fights at the time? Trying to unify? Bob is a cvnt, he's getting Teo to duck Haney. Haney should also of got the Loma fight, I hate belts being gifted and I hate the franch,,,,,,,,,,,,,, What does any of that matter? I stand by what's happening at the PBC regarding Spence avoiding Crawford, it's happening right now. I don't need to justify why I'm saying it, call me racist all you want. Just makes you sound stupid. Charlo fought deverychenko, his mando. Ggg and Andrade have no quality opponent. If you’re real issue is best fighting the best ( based on your posts you don’t believe charlo is better than either) then you should be up in arms and you’re not. Why? Teo and Haney both just fought. To suggest either is ducking is silly. The duck was Loma against Haney. You defended that. As for Crawford/ Spence you make no sense given what Crawford and Bob said directly after his last fight. Bob and Crawford gave lip service to the Spence fight but openly campaigned for a manny fight. You can’t claim to have not seen that. Knowing this, it’s clear who is really blocking that fight-arum. If Spence loses pbc still has manny and other ww’s to make money. If Crawford loses bob has no earner at ww, which is very hot right now. Why do you think Arum paid Crawford far more than he was worth? The man is purposely losing money just to prevent the fight from happening. As for you being a racist, why do you always blame the fighters associated with haymon for blocking yet dont bring it up when the best do t fight the best outside of pbc?

I didn’t post imply you’re a racist. I made a general statement that a lot of the haymon hate is racial in nature. You can arrive at the same destination even though the journey is different. There may be black people That don’t like the current situation. That doesn’t mean their motivation and yours is the same. The proof is in the pudding. You are very loud when a pbc fighter doesn’t fight someone. When it’s a fighter you like, you don’t say a word. Look at how you’re avoiding talking about the point I made about Haney/Teo and Loma/ Haney, Loma/Berchelt and ggg/ Andrade to instead fixate on the point about how some of haymon a hate is racial in nature. Your view is based solely on hating pbc. Why you hate them only you know. If you’re real issue is best fighting the best, I would expect to see you voice displeasure every time it happens. But you don’t. So you calling me a racist or not? Don't beat about the bush here, just spit it out. Racist or not racist? Ive had my opinions on GGG and Andrade. Wasn't Andrade offering Charlo fights at the time? Trying to unify? Bob is a cvnt, he's getting Teo to duck Haney. Haney should also of got the Loma fight, I hate belts being gifted and I hate the franch,,,,,,,,,,,,,, What does any of that matter? I stand by what's happening at the PBC regarding Spence avoiding Crawford, it's happening right now. I don't need to justify why I'm saying it, call me racist all you want. Just makes you sound stupid.

So YouTube is full of African Americans saying the same thing I'm saying. Are they all racists too? Or just me? I don't mind that you call me racist, your just one of those race card wavers who put everything down to keeping down the black man and can't accept there could be any other reason other than anti black racism. I actually feel a bit sorry for you. You must see the world in a real ugly way. I didn’t post imply you’re a racist. I made a general statement that a lot of the haymon hate is racial in nature. You can arrive at the same destination even though the journey is different. There may be black people That don’t like the current situation. That doesn’t mean their motivation and yours is the same. The proof is in the pudding. You are very loud when a pbc fighter doesn’t fight someone. When it’s a fighter you like, you don’t say a word. Look at how you’re avoiding talking about the point I made about Haney/Teo and Loma/ Haney, Loma/Berchelt and ggg/ Andrade to instead fixate on the point about how some of haymon a hate is racial in nature. Your view is based solely on hating pbc. Why you hate them only you know. If you’re real issue is best fighting the best, I would expect to see you voice displeasure every time it happens. But you don’t.

When they talked to Bob and Crawford they both openly talked about the manny fight being next for Crawford. Yet you are here suggesting it’s pbc that is blocking the fight. When you talk about Loma avoiding Berchelt and Haney or ggg avoiding Andrade, the I will take you more seriously. Yes, there is a racial element. Look at you. You talk about Haney/ Teo, when both just had a fight. How in the hell is that fight being blocked right now? The blocking in that division was arum blocking Loma/Haney and Loma/Berchelt. You will not call him out for that. You call out pbc yet stay silen as ggg fight some garbage bum and Andrade fights some bum rather than each other. When pbc wasn’t Doing unification fights you were all over them. You’re not fooling anyone. So YouTube is full of African Americans saying the same thing I'm saying. Are they all racists too? Or just me? I don't mind that you call me racist, your just one of those race card wavers who put everything down to keeping down the black man and can't accept there could be any other reason other than anti black racism. I actually feel a bit sorry for you. You must see the world in a real ugly way.

I'm a Boxing fan not a business fan. I want champions fighting champions, Spence and the PBC are clear as day avoiding Bud Crawford. Just like Arum and Lopez are avoiding Haney and I've had plenty to say on that matter too. Good for Al, he is blocking the best fights to make acceptable fights and getting rich off it. Good business. But I'm not a fan of Al Haymons Bank balance in a fan of the sport of Boxing and any honest Boxing fan just wants the best fighting the best and the best at 147 are Crawford and Spence. Haven't you noticed the only ppl who don't want that fight are PBC Spence fans. Near enough EVERY other Boxing fan wants that fight. And you need to stop the racial element BS. You come across as racist thinking like that. Haven't you noticed all the African Americans saying the same thing I'm.saying? It's cuz they are just Boxing fans just like me. When they talked to Bob and Crawford they both openly talked about the manny fight being next for Crawford. Yet you are here suggesting it’s pbc that is blocking the fight. When you talk about Loma avoiding Berchelt and Haney or ggg avoiding Andrade, the I will take you more seriously. Yes, there is a racial element. Look at you. You talk about Haney/ Teo, when both just had a fight. How in the hell is that fight being blocked right now? The blocking in that division was arum blocking Loma/Haney and Loma/Berchelt. You will not call him out for that. You call out pbc yet stay silent as ggg fight some garbage bum and Andrade fights some bum rather than each other. When pbc wasn’t Doing unification fights you were all over them. You’re not fooling anyone.

i dont need to shill for anyone or anything...it doesnt make me money idc if you think it was worth it or not...if it wasnt then move on...dont cry about it....keep it moving and move on to something worth your while or productive "wahhhhh that wasnt worth it..if i keep crying about it al haymon might go out of business which is what i really hope for wahhhhhhh" I have no horse in the race being for the UK but I'm telling you now that it's not worth $80 dollars regardless of being able to afford it or not, "crying" as you put it is beneficial to a company, if I don't know what I'm doing wrong in the eyes of my customers how can I put it right and improve upon it for the future? surely this concept isn't lost on you or maybe it is?

I did not buy the ppv...and lol@ the bitter overtone of the op.

ask yourself this honest question...and answer it honestly...i know you wont or arent capable so ill do it for you if bob arum had the pbcs roster of WWs and bud crawford was the lone wolf over at the pbc...do you think bob would look at bud crawford and try to make a fight? heres the answer...he wouldnt....we all know this is 100 percent true and fact the pbc doesnt **** with bud because they dont need to..they have a bunch of interesting, intriguing, fights to make right there with their own guys' it has nothing to do with thinking they cant bead bud...if they dont think they can beat bud now what makes you think theyll think it a year or two from now?NOTHING! youre an idiot if you think thats a reason...if your belief is they dont think they can beat him now what makes them think theyll ever beat him! especially if their own fighters arent fighting him? whos going to soften him up for the pbc? lol...your own words dont logically make any sense...its just drivel you dont even believe How can you make up a hypothetical question that has an answer based on opinion and then call it a fact? By all means call it likely or highly likely, based on Arums actions with his own fighters i would agree that it is likely. And in that scenario id just ask you to imagine me saying the EXACT same things I'm saying now but change Haymon for Arum and PBC for Top Rank. But Spence isn't Top Rank he is PBC.

How can you hate the way he runs a successful company? He’s giving you solid fights and really strong cards. There definitely is a racial component to the hate haymon gets. Haney and Teo both just fought. What you should have complained vociferously about was Arum protecting Loma from Haney and Berchelt to ensure the big money Teo/Loma fight. To not complain about or acknowledge that is exactly the point I am making. You don’t ever seem to go at TR or DAZN with the same negative energy you do pbc. I'm a Boxing fan not a business fan. I want champions fighting champions, Spence and the PBC are clear as day avoiding Bud Crawford. Just like Arum and Lopez are avoiding Haney and I've had plenty to say on that matter too. Good for Al, he is blocking the best fights to make acceptable fights and getting rich off it. Good business. But I'm not a fan of Al Haymons Bank balance in a fan of the sport of Boxing and any honest Boxing fan just wants the best fighting the best and the best at 147 are Crawford and Spence. Haven't you noticed the only ppl who don't want that fight are PBC Spence fans. Near enough EVERY other Boxing fan wants that fight. And you need to stop the racial element BS. You come across as racist thinking like that. Haven't you noticed all the African Americans saying the same thing I'm.saying? It's cuz they are just Boxing fans just like me.

Internet Boxing Fans don't buy PPV's a promoter would have to be Super Stupid to try and sell fights to the Misfits on this Forum! No but for FOX, the Target Audience is NOT the Hardcore, the Target Audience are the Casual Sports Fans which is why they Run Promos during NFL Sunday which gets HUGE Ratings

I don't hate the PBC because its run by Haymon, I hate the way Haymon runs the PBC. You ain't guna make it racial I hope, the old I hate Haymon cuz I don't want to see a black man succeed crap. I also hate Bob Arum, he does the same **** as Haymon, latest example he is now looking to protect Teo Lopez from Haney just like Haymon is doing with Spence. It's just that Haymon is doing it all the time across the divisions. How can you hate the way he runs a successful company? He’s giving you solid fights and really strong cards. There definitely is a racial component to the hate haymon gets. Haney and Teo both just fought. What you should have complained vociferously about was Arum protecting Loma from Haney and Berchelt to ensure the big money Teo/Loma fight. To not complain about or acknowledge that is exactly the point I am making. You don’t ever seem to go at TR or DAZN with the same negative energy you do pbc.

because you could simply move on to something else.... its ok to mention it in passing in real life...to a friend...a relative...or whoever...but when you login to complain about the price of something i think you must fret over money....i realize most people fret over money but i dont really get it... if al haymon, who btw is successful at what he does, thought people wouldnt pay for it he wouldnt do it that way...he obviously still sees something in the ppv model.....people pay for stuff....if you cant afford it move on im not wealthy...theres tons of **** i cant afford...i dont complain about...its my lot in life Ah! So this is Haymon fanboy thread. My bad. Keep doing you.

ask yourself this honest question...and answer it honestly...i know you wont or arent capable so ill do it for you if bob arum had the pbcs roster of WWs and bud crawford was the lone wolf over at the pbc...do you think bob would look at bud crawford and try to make a fight? heres the answer...he wouldnt....we all know this is 100 percent true and fact the pbc doesnt **** with bud because they dont need to..they have a bunch of interesting, intriguing, fights to make right there with their own guys' it has nothing to do with thinking they cant bead bud...if they dont think they can beat bud now what makes you think theyll think it a year or two from now?NOTHING! youre an idiot if you think thats a reason...if your belief is they dont think they can beat him now what makes them think theyll ever beat him! especially if their own fighters arent fighting him? whos going to soften him up for the pbc? lol...your own words dont logically make any sense...its just drivel you dont even believe So you admit the PBC has no interest in the best fighting the best and champions unifying divisions because there's plenty of in house fights to make instead which means they don't have to deal with rival promoters and their champions? And you wonder why I am complaining as a Boxing fan? I am a fan of both Crawford and Spence, it's the best fight to make at 147 and you have just said they are doing exactly what gets my goat about the PBC. Arum doing the same thing now with Haney and Bob is a cvnt for doing it and he's doing it for the exact same chicken reason. I understand promoters don't want their champions falling to fighters with rival promoters but this is still a sport to us fans. It's business to them but it's still sport. No wonder the sport is dwindling in the States, no wonder old timers like Mike Tyson and Roy Jones prove the market is still out there for big PPV sales. When you see what they did don't you wonder whats going wrong with the current crop for sales to be so much lower? Not making the big fights at the right time is a big factor and now is the time for Spence v Crawford and has been for a couple of years.

You hate the pbc because it’s run by Haymon. This clouds your judgement as it did in the previous post. Whenever a fight doesn’t get made you automatically blame the fighter associated with Haymon, regardless of the facts. Crawford just got asked who he wanted and said Manny. That doesn’t sound like haymon blocking the fight. How did last night crap on boxing fans? Spence proved he was much better than Danny in his first fight after a major car crash. What craps on boxing fans is fights like ggg/ szermata rather than dazn making ggg/Andrade unification. Of course you don’t have an issue when Top Rank or DAZN doesn’t make the best fights for guys you like seeing win. I don't hate the PBC because its run by Haymon, I hate the way Haymon runs the PBC. You ain't guna make it racial I hope, the old I hate Haymon cuz I don't want to see a black man succeed crap. I also hate Bob Arum, he does the same **** as Haymon, latest example he is now looking to protect Teo Lopez from Haney just like Haymon is doing with Spence. It's just that Haymon is doing it all the time across the divisions.

Why are you bothered by people calling out fights that shouldn’t be on PPV? oh im not really bothered..its not going to ruin my day..i think its sad and pathetic....dont watch or get it for free...watch a replay.... you know haymon is successful and good at what he does...you know if it wasnt a benefit to him he wouldnt be doing ppvs...so put 2 and 2 together and just deal with it...act accordingly....adapt complaining about it is a loser mindset..im trying to help

I know there’s financial incentive for having PPV fights. But I’m going to criticize the only promotional outfit that’s putting on PPVs, especially when these fights shouldn’t be on PPV. maybe if you keep whining hell stop doing ppvs! you take your stand! youre right! you are a man of the people! lol

Some of it was fun, it just could have been better but I kinda think PBC set the standard kinda high after the Charlo doubleheader. They keep up undercards like that then I'm buying every PPV. Good point. To go from that to this past weekend was a huge drop off in quality.

Thought the undercard lacked name value but I did enjoy the fights. Some of it was fun, it just could have been better but I kinda think PBC set the standard kinda high after the Charlo doubleheader. They keep up undercards like that then I'm buying every PPV.

these guys all hated on andrade before he signed with hearn and DAZN...then they told us "finally..finally well see andrade in meaninful fights"...... and guess what happened when he still hasnt been in them? "why wont charlo fight him..charlo ducking"...not "why wont canelo or golovkin fight him"...."golovkin is doing whats best for him blah blah" or whatever other bull**** they still say....every excuse in the book known to man...if its not on andrade its on canelo "well canelo is holding golovkins career hostage because golovkin wants to fight him again".....its so pathetic and sad to watch.... Yeah it’s really pathetic. DAZN could’ve made the Andrade/ggg fight any time but they don’t want to risk ggg losing. As usual, the guys like DaNuetral forget to get upset. Then when ggg gets some easy cake walk they are fine with it..