How many past greats have broken orbital bones?
These days
Margarito
Kell Brook
Dubois
Inoue
Oscar also got his eye socket fractured against Pac
That is just within the last 3 years or so.
WTF is going on with all these broken eye sockets?
Youre right in bone density is lessoning in the modern human, the cause is less activity, it will apply to a general population of couch lizards but not athletes.
With dogs I can raise two brothers and feed them different and give one hard work the other none, the bone density will be different in both dogs.
The average being less today is not genetics, its life style.
Im right into all this stuff Ive bred performance dogs for 50 yrs.
This is a good reply, thank you for taking the time and thought to comment.
I believe that current fighters have lower bone density.
Humanity is devolving in my opinion.
Youre right in bone density is lessoning in the modern human, the cause is less activity, it will apply to a general population of couch lizards but not athletes.
With dogs I can raise two brothers and feed them different and give one hard work the other none, the bone density will be different in both dogs.
The average being less today is not genetics, its life style.
Im right into all this stuff Ive bred performance dogs for 50 yrs.
It was a blanket question, are boxers punching harder, are tennis players serving faster on average, has the speed of baseball increased are they hitting the ball further, are they kicking a ball further, are swimmers clocking faster times on average, a people running faster on average.
Off course they are, the key is on average, you will always have the very elite that wont change much over many generations, but the rest of the group will continue to rise with better teaching nutrition and scientific training.
As for boxing the "average" across them all will punch harder faster are more explosive and have better technique , a great puncher today will be no different to a great puncher many years ago, but I bet over a 1000 fighters from then to a 1000 now the average is better everywhere.
This post is the TRUTH
We can disagree because there’s no definitive measurement for boxing
But across the board in the sporting world, facts are on my side that athletes are way better.
Fury out of condition ? Yet never gassed like other fighters do. You fall in to the trap of looking at bodies.
Even when he fought Wlad, Wlad was exhausted at the end and Fury was singing Aerosmith lol
You sound like a real casual to be honest. No wonder your date of registering was about the same time as AJ’s rise in popularity :lol1:
Those two dudes are so low IQ. They took ONE example and used it to generalize and entire generation of athletes 😂😂😂😂😂
Checkmate they say! Lmfaooo
It was a blanket question, are boxers punching harder, are tennis players serving faster on average, has the speed of baseball increased are they hitting the ball further, are they kicking a ball further, are swimmers clocking faster times on average, a people running faster on average.
Off course they are, the key is on average, you will always have the very elite that wont change much over many generations, but the rest of the group will continue to rise with better teaching nutrition and scientific training.
As for boxing the "average" across them all will punch harder faster are more explosive and have better technique , a great puncher today will be no different to a great puncher many years ago, but I bet over a 1000 fighters from then to a 1000 now the average is better everywhere.
No. Hard punches were around since the beginning of the sport. Many a fighter has had orbital bones broken, cheekbones, concussions, broken ribs, etc. this is nothing new. Pick up a boxing book or two about boxing history.
How many past greats have broken orbital bones?
These days
Margarito
Kell Brook
Dubois
Inoue
Oscar also got his eye socket fractured against Pac
That is just within the last 3 years or so.
WTF is going on with all these broken eye sockets?
I believe that current fighters have lower bone density.
Humanity is devolving in my opinion.
They;re softer now. Look at all the giant headed freaks in Robinsons era. Now adays it’s softies with juiced up muscles on their small frames. Bone’s can be get stronger. Even just the frequency of fights would build up bones, why they were so hardy back then. Nowadays it’s stay away from punishment, twice a year get your faced smashed in. We still got a few Provodnikov’s though.
People romanticize the "good old days" because Americans were the only ones seriously competing. Now that the sport has developed internationally people conveniently claim that we live in a "weak era".
Saying a 50 year old Mike Tyson could compete with today's heavyweights is laughable. No other sport faces such idiotic comments.
Let's compare apples to apples. A 19 or 20 year old Mike Tyson would be destroying most of today's heavyweights.
People romanticize the "good old days" because Americans were the only ones seriously competing. Now that the sport has developed internationally people conveniently claim that we live in a "weak era".
Saying a 50 year old Mike Tyson could compete with today's heavyweights is laughable. No other sport faces such idiotic comments.
No.
Jesse Owen's was running 10.2/3 on mud tracks, wearing heavy leather running shoes while training and living off food-stamps.
Tyson Fury for example? Has access to all the best sports nutrition and sport science, even still he is 'Out of condition compared to the past heavyweights' I don't think athletes have evolved as much as people claim etc
Your comment about Jesse Owens is interesting. A while back I read an article that compared his achievements to the best track athletes of our day. The analysis included a detail study of what the hard composite material tracks and shoes had added to the performances seen in our day. Jesse Owen's achievements when adjusted for these differences would still be world class. Similarly some of the longest recorded home runs were hit by Mickey Mantle in the 1950s and 1960s.
On March 26, 1951 the Yankees played an exhibition game with the USC baseball team at Bovard Field, USC. Mantle, batting left-handed hit a homer that traveled 656-feet, crossing a football field adjacent to the ballpark. On May 22, 1963 at Yankee Stadium Mantle hit a home run that would have left the ballpark had it not hit a facade on the front side of the roof above the third deck in right-field. Estimates by observers are that the ball would have traveled 734' if it had not been impeded (I think they are being a bit generous here).
No.
Jesse Owen's was running 10.2/3 on mud tracks, wearing heavy leather running shoes while training and living off food-stamps.
Tyson Fury for example? Has access to all the best sports nutrition and sport science, even still he is 'Out of condition compared to the past heavyweights' I don't think athletes have evolved as much as people claim etc
Tyson Fury is 6'9. 260 lbs that can box 12 rounds.
size matters.