Joe Joyce Calls Out Oleksandr Usyk: Who Wins?

Joyce is more of an effective heavyweight. Had the win last night be 12 rounds he would’ve lost . Noone knows it, it's HW. Everyone can win against everyone with one punch. Besides Joyce looked much freshier than Dubois.

Not so long ago the so-called "forum experts" claimed that Usyk is the best and most likely will get all the belts in HW; it was enough for Joyce to win one single fight against a young guy who has no heart and courage and suddenly Joyce is better than Usyk.

stop protecting AJ from Usyk, how many brits does Usyk have to beat before getting that championship bout

It's an interesting one, I'd be interested in seeing it. Due to Joyce's chin and Usyk's (lack of?) power at HW, I feel the only way Usyk would win is via a decision. I think he could pull that off though. He has a better selection of punches to keep Joyce at bay and off balance than Dubios did. Joyce would just keep coming all 12 rounds though with pressure. I wouldn't mind seeing it.

In a 12 round championship fight I'd have to favor Joyce early to mid, and still dangerous late due to his persistent style. Chisora's power and pressure was giving Usyk problems early and despite the fact that Joyce wouldn't be coming out as hot but with a more sustained methodical pressure I could see him breaking Usyk down for a mid/late stoppage or just catching him early while he's "downloading" Joyce's 56k dial up modem punches... with better foot movement and a better job of cutting off the ring than Chisora, I think he stands a good chance but still possibly could get out-boxed in a play it safe style performance. 55/45 fight favoring Joyce? I don't know... I'm super ****faced and not a handicapper obviously, usually losing my bets but today was a good day!

If Usyk is able to take Joyce`s punches, he probably outboxes him. If not, he gets stopped.

Usyk is getting hit more often, but he hasn't given me a reason to worry about his punch resistance yet. Joyce can punch, but the predictable trajectory and impact of his punches leads me to believe that he won't be one-punching Usyk. I side with Usyk's speed, movement, combo punching to edge it out.

I think mighty Joe Joyce wins by KO.

For sure I was just pointing out Dubois achilles heel in this fight. He could have done much better if he moved his head just a little rather than eat hammer fisted jabs all night. Sure. It also looked like the left hook was there for him, as Joyce constantly circled to his right and never really threatened with his own right hand. But Dubois was either unwilling or just incapable of throwing a left hook.

He can also move his feet a lot, which will help against Joyce. For sure I was just pointing out Dubois achilles heel in this fight. He could have done much better if he moved his head just a little rather than eat hammer fisted jabs all night.

I'm wondering if Usyk has the same speed and athleticism as he did in the Joyce fight, too. I'm not sure, but he doesn't seem as fast and mobile as he was back then. It was almost freaky, the way he moved and pivoted while fighting in range with Joyce. His hand speed and accuracy looked incredible back then.....but I think he's lost a step or two since then. I don't know who would win a 12 rounder between Joyce and Usyk...I'd have to really think about it. Likewise, I can't really call it right now either. He's obviously heavier at HW but his movement seems to have slowed a bit. Now can it be that he's just not had enough fights recently and has had to rehab his injuries which have effected him? Sure, but we still have to see if he still THAT same fighter. Remember, that was like seven years ago and Usyk was much younger. Usyk like a lot of fighters or athletes in their 30s is starting to suffer injuries and possibly slowing down. No shame in that.

Possibly, but this will be a 12 rounder and Joyce isn't going to stop coming. Usyk also may not have as much bounce and athleticism that he had back then. He's dealt with a lot of injuries recently and didn't look good against Chisora. Intriguing fight. I'm wondering if Usyk has the same speed and athleticism as he did in the Joyce fight, too. I'm not sure, but he doesn't seem as fast and mobile as he was back then. It was almost freaky, the way he moved and pivoted while fighting in range with Joyce. His hand speed and accuracy looked incredible back then.....but I think he's lost a step or two since then. I don't know who would win a 12 rounder between Joyce and Usyk...I'd have to really think about it.

joyce beats him. that amateur fight means absolutely nothing, joes a lot stronger and usyk simply cannot hurt him which means hes got 12 rounds ahead of him with joe marching him down. Hes twice the size of what he was in that amateur fight. Yeah, Joyce is bigger and still has the same type of work rate and stamina. But that wasn't really an amateur fight. It was a professional fight that they count as an amateur fight. Still though, both are different fighters now and that's the main thing. He can also move his feet a lot, which will help against Joyce. How well can he move his feet at this point in his career? That's the big question in this fight. You just can't ignore how mediocre he looked against Chisora and all the injuries that have kind of set him back post-Gassiev. Joyce stops him this ain't no 5 rounds, Usyk ain't 27 no more neither Bold! I like it, and yeah, the Usyk that fought Joyce at the WSB is not the same fighter anymore. Not saying he isn't capable of winning because he is, but I question his athleticism at this point of his career.

It would be interesting to see what happens next if fury does take on wilder. Joshua Joyce may actually be a big fight now and if wbo don’t enforce usyk as a mandatory straight off - is a all British fight actually a potential option? Fury has taken on far weaker opponents that is for sure.

Usyk I think, he can actually move his head a little. He can also move his feet a lot, which will help against Joyce.

Usyk is Joyce's kryptonite. Joyce can't be stopped but he can be outboxed and Usyk is just so much faster and more skilled. I don't want to see a repeat of their first fight. I want to see Joyce take on some more big hitters for some proper firefights. Possibly, but this will be a 12 rounder and Joyce isn't going to stop coming. Usyk also may not have as much bounce and athleticism that he had back then. He's dealt with a lot of injuries recently and didn't look good against Chisora. Intriguing fight.

same thing as before

Usyk is Joyce's kryptonite. Joyce can't be stopped but he can be outboxed and Usyk is just so much faster and more skilled. I don't want to see a repeat of their first fight. I want to see Joyce take on some more big hitters for some proper firefights.

I really dont know. Usyk beat him in that World Series Of Boxing thing but it was a 5 rounder, surviving for 12 rounds might be a different story. They're both durable, speed and skill goes to Usyk, size and power goes to Joyce.