Wilder seems like a delusional man, who is still in the denial phase.
When he comes out of the denial phase and realizes that he lost fair and square, will he be a broken shell of a man?
I believe when he realizes what he has done, he'll probably never fight a real challenge again. But then again, he dared to fight the best once, so I hope he recovers, because I like him. But these excuses and this delusion is just making it extremely hard.
"I'm a king!" :crucified
Most definitely.
I am not sure what world you live in? But people change real quick, people's perceptions can change in a instant.
This is life in general.
I observed on this forum how people dramatically change 'Very few here are rock solid in their beliefs'.
Why do some people like to degrade other boxers when they take a loss? I bet most keyboard warriors cannot even dare to enter the ring. It's a fight, one will win and one will lose. Its fans like these that prevent competitive fights in the first place. Fighters today are so conscious of their 0 records to fight decent people.
Wilder fought a prime Fury and lost. Even if he loses another time, I still enjoy his fights, and him staying around for a while makes the division competitive.
No one is degrading Wilder for taking a loss...... I was on here giving him props for staying in the fight as long as he did (provable).
His actions since are why people laugh and think he's a moron.
Why do some people like to degrade other boxers when they take a loss? I bet most keyboard warriors cannot even dare to enter the ring. It's a fight, one will win and one will lose. Its fans like these that prevent competitive fights in the first place. Fighters today are so conscious of their 0 records to fight decent people.
Wilder fought a prime Fury and lost. Even if he loses another time, I still enjoy his fights, and him staying around for a while makes the division competitive.
Calm down friendo it's all fun, at least for me it is. No one really takes professional fighting serious not since the 80s and yes it does take away fighters daring to be great, but like basketball players and other athletes they all should understand to tune out the media, twitter and other social media. I get that fans will find them aloof but with money comes a price of notoriety and criticism.
Why do some people like to degrade other boxers when they take a loss? I bet most keyboard warriors cannot even dare to enter the ring. It's a fight, one will win and one will lose. Its fans like these that prevent competitive fights in the first place. Fighters today are so conscious of their 0 records to fight decent people.
Wilder fought a prime Fury and lost. Even if he loses another time, I still enjoy his fights, and him staying around for a while makes the division competitive.
This is another level of excuses by wilder not seen before. So it's all new territory.
All wilder can.do is get back to winning. All the other stuff is irrelevant
Yes it can by fighting for the youtube heavyweight championship against top contenders such as the Paul brothers, Nate Robinson, Antonio Brown and Reanimated corpse of Aaron Hernandez
Finkel said this:
“Look, Wilder is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things. It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.
And that right there is why Wilder's reign should never be respected.
A title holder is supposed to bring honour to the belt.
Team Wilder were of the view that once he had it, he should just be allowed to keep it for a while.
"don't throw him right in" - He was a bloody title holder. It was his job to be "right in".
Hey man it's the land of America it's never been too late. Look at oscar de la Hoya with the fish nets stockings he freaking came back from that this is the land of second chances you feel me?
Nonsense, these were Wlad's own words literally after beating Bryant Jennings:
"I believe that the fight with Tyson Fury will look different to this one because of the size difference – Fury is taller than me. He is definitely the guy who is ambitious and I think it is going to be exciting. I think that he is going to engage in the fight. There was not much engagement through Jennings today but I think the Fury fight will be exciting and I’m looking forward to it."
Its literally in the Wiki article about the fight:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wladimir_Klitschko_vs._Tyson_Fury
The fight was then announced in August. Wilder himself also talked about wanting Wlad in June 2015:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2015/07/09/deontay-wilder-says-wladimir-klitschko-fight-just-a-matter-of-when-not-if/99756648/
In fact there are a bunch of damn videos on youtube where you can watch him talk about Wlad "looking slow". Its just beyond asinine that anyone can try and dump that on anyone other than the reality of boxing. Klistchko lost, wanted a rematch and then Fury popped and vacated his titles. Wlad opted to fight for the vacated titles instead of aiming at the WBC. And I mean, what boxer would not aim for the titles he just lost out on?????
Wilder won his title in Jan 2015. Also in Jan 2015, Finkel said this:
“Look, Wilder is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things. It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.
https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714
Deontay Wilder, reigning WBC champion, 29 years old, 33 - 0 with 32 KO's ... still a baby doe, still like a college prospect ....
11 months later Tyson Fury, 26 years old, 24 - 0, went on the road and beat Wlad in his own back yard.
The facts - and Shelley Finkel - speak for themselves, and they say you are spouting it here. The reason Wilder never fought Wlad was that he and his team didn't want it.
Wlad didn't earmark or choose Fury as an opponent, it was a mandatory defence of his WBA title. What he really wanted was a chance to unify the division by winning the only title he didn't have - the WBC belt which had been held by his brother.
Wilder became WBC champion before Wlad's mando with Fury had been ordered and the undisputed fight could easily have been made, but Wilder's manager, Shelley Finkel, ruled it out, saying Deontay was still a baby and not yet ready for Wlad.
Nonsense, these were Wlad's own words literally after beating Bryant Jennings:
"I believe that the fight with Tyson Fury will look different to this one because of the size difference – Fury is taller than me. He is definitely the guy who is ambitious and I think it is going to be exciting. I think that he is going to engage in the fight. There was not much engagement through Jennings today but I think the Fury fight will be exciting and I’m looking forward to it."
Its literally in the Wiki article about the fight:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wladimir_Klitschko_vs._Tyson_Fury
The fight was then announced in August. Wilder himself also talked about wanting Wlad in June 2015:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2015/07/09/deontay-wilder-says-wladimir-klitschko-fight-just-a-matter-of-when-not-if/99756648/
In fact there are a bunch of damn videos on youtube where you can watch him talk about Wlad "looking slow". Its just beyond asinine that anyone can try and dump that on anyone other than the reality of boxing. Klistchko lost, wanted a rematch and then Fury popped and vacated his titles. Wlad opted to fight for the vacated titles instead of aiming at the WBC. And I mean, what boxer would not aim for the titles he just lost out on?????
It can only be recovered by beating top contenders or by beating Fury. He keeps making his reputation worse the more he cries about Fury cheating.
Who would you consider a top contender?
Think he beats most of them
Wilder has a strong punch and a weak I.Q.
He suffers from the all too common condition found in the hood...the inabilty to accept personal accountibility for ANYTHING...ever.
I like Wilder as a fighter...he should have stopped at, "I think there was some funny stuff going on with Fury's gloves..."
All this Breland put voodoo in my water etc...
Nah.
Now you sound like the cliche hysterical BLM mfers....
DUDe.... How can you forget "The 40 lb vest made my legs weak."
Wilder is just a cherry picker end of, the only reason he chose fury is because fury had just lost xx amount of lbs, and then it’s his trainer, gloves not on properly, egg weights in gloves, because he’s black , his water was spiked and he was drugged, what a complete tosser he can’t even stay relevant after all this, we all know what we can see, very technically poor, but he started on the right track when he said I make no excuses the better man won tonight and then it was my costume was too heavy I do wonder what the next excuses will be this guy is a complete loser
This comment proves what I suspected. You're an idiot.
Wilder won his title in January 2015 and Klistchko lost his in December of that same year. How on God's green earth would Wilder have managed to unify with Wlad in 10 months? Especially considering Wlad himself earmarked Fury as an opponent by the middle of the same year???
Wlad didn't earmark or choose Fury as an opponent, it was a mandatory defence of his WBA title. What he really wanted was a chance to unify the division by winning the only title he didn't have - the WBC belt which had been held by his brother.
Wilder became WBC champion before Wlad's mando with Fury had been ordered and the undisputed fight could easily have been made, but Wilder's manager, Shelley Finkel, ruled it out, saying Deontay was still a baby and not yet ready for Wlad.
If he dared to fight the best we would have had a Vitali Klitschko fight years back . The hard truth is Wilder has never fought a guy that was ready or in perfect health and when he did fight a real top guy in condition he got smashed .
He will go down as one of the biggest jokes and always have unlimited references to be the joke ,even Joyce’s camp was clowning him today wrapping his hands . It’ll never get old .
This comment proves what I suspected. You're an idiot.
Wilder won his title in January 2015 and Klistchko lost his in December of that same year. How on God's green earth would Wilder have managed to unify with Wlad in 10 months? Especially considering Wlad himself earmarked Fury as an opponent by the middle of the same year???
He's done his image a favour. Its annoying as I still think Wilder is an underappreciated heavyweight but, at the same time, I am well aware this his delusional antics will put bums on seats. In fact if this Fury fight turns out not to be his next fight then all he needs is a solid win against a B-tier heavyweight and he's right back up there in levels of excitement.
The thing many fellow Brits refuse to understand is that American's live for controversial African American fighters. Nothing the public enjoys more than the potential of some loud, raucous black man getting the stuffing beat out of him. Wilder went from a virtual unknown with a heavyweight title, doing appearances of Love and Hip Hop and getting trolled by youtube celebrities to commanding the highest purses in boxing in 2020. His lunacy (and occassional stupidity) sell and it sells big.
Favourability in sports is very fickle...its only so lond people will tolerate a lovable loser. I remember growing up and Tyson was a violent criminal who was struggling to get an entry Visa to the UK to a lovable podcaster with a host of film credits and a CBD business. He was still commanding huge purses at the height of his infamy.
Weasel mentality Brits will cry and moan for Wilder daring to be outspoken and make a living for himself. I, like anyone with any remote real world experience in fighting, knows what a lonely world it is and how very few people come in like Joshua/Khan/Harrison having benefited from a massive PR boost after doing anything worthwhile at the Olympics. The boxing world needs him the way CNN's ratings need Donald Trump.
I'm 50/50 on what happens next. I figure he either:
1. Never fights again and disappears.
2. Becomes some joke character. Fights very rarely and is still trying to make controversy and calling out titlists when he's 45.
I don't see any meaningful career from this point.
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