What if Deontay Wilder is right?

Wilder lost both fights. End of conversationThat is your opinion and not fact. Many fans believe that Wilder should have won by KO but Jack Reiss through Fury a lifeline. Dillian Whyte was KO without a count and was waved off. Leo Santa Cruz was KO also with a count out and was waved off too. So what happened with Tyson Fury in Wilder/Fury I? Why was he given an opportunity to beat the count and not waved off like the other two fighters I just mentioned? Was it because he had that hope insurance?

Wilder lost both fights. End of conversation

Very well said. I don’t get how people can look at Fury and say he can’t hurt anybody. He had more time to recover from his intense weight loss and so those punches did more damage than they did the first time around. As I’ve pointed out before, some of his shots hurt Wilder in the 12th round of the first fight, and he fought more like that 12th round in the second fight. Good boxers adjust and Fury found what worked in the 12th round and in the rematch. I use to be a Wilder fan, but I have jumped that ship because of how he and many of his fans talk. Too much weirdness and conspiracy theories. Yup He has 21 stoppages out of 30. I know he's not a major hitter but he's 6'9 and near 280. He can hurt people bad if he fights on the front foot aggressively

For Wilder to be right, Jack Reiss, Bayless, the commission, Fury, Hatton, Breland, Dirrell, the costume makers etc all have to be wrong. It seems some of youse aren’t that bright. Which one is it? Is it all of it or some of it? Only one person is dead wrong here.

What I saw in that fight is Fury outboxing Wilder - the same way Fury was outboxing Wilder in the first fight. The difference was in the 2nd fight, it was Fury who knocked down Wilder - shot on the ear which is very difficult to recover from. There is nothing suspicious in that 2nd fight. Wilder and his fans talk like Fury is a s small man without power - Fury is a effing big - bigger than Wilder and he can punch with power if he wants to. But Fury has higher IQ that's why he choses when to load up and when to box and when to pin Wilder to the ropes. Very well said. I don’t get how people can look at Fury and say he can’t hurt anybody. He had more time to recover from his intense weight loss and so those punches did more damage than they did the first time around. As I’ve pointed out before, some of his shots hurt Wilder in the 12th round of the first fight, and he fought more like that 12th round in the second fight. Good boxers adjust and Fury found what worked in the 12th round and in the rematch. I use to be a Wilder fan, but I have jumped that ship because of how he and many of his fans talk. Too much weirdness and conspiracy theories.

Because no gloves have ever been analysed so obsessively frame by frame looking for any movement or distortion. So do it to any other boxer and you'd find the same. We've seen canelos and Spence's gloves 'flap'. we've seen shots or AJs and the Charlos look like you can see digits through the gloves. Yeah im speaking in this situation specifically... i havent really followed it much after the first few weeks, is wilder stating he is going to try to get something done?

what exactly can they do at this point, i admit the gloves looked weird in the vids showed.... how exactly will an investigation work at this point? Because no gloves have ever been analysed so obsessively frame by frame looking for any movement or distortion. So do it to any other boxer and you'd find the same. We've seen canelos and Spence's gloves 'flap'. we've seen shots or AJs and the Charlos look like you can see digits through the gloves.

handwraps werent the issue The only genuine glovegate is Whyte Rivas where team Rivas were actually not allowed to check the gloves.

what exactly can they do at this point, i admit the gloves looked weird in the vids showed.... how exactly will an investigation work at this point?

handwraps werent the issue

Sorry Anthony but I am going to have to refuse to dignify this post because this is not you. You don't even believe this yourself. You want to remain friendly and popular on this site. I get it. You know I have been consistent in relation to Wilder from day dot. I don’t attack you personally because you are very civil and if the topic doesn’t concern Wilder your thoughts are usually well balanced. What is it about Wilder that sends you off the edge?

Bro he had 7 months to talk up to hype up interest about the rematch. He decided to sit in silence. Everyone knew Tyson wanted to fight, why didn’t Deontay come out earlier and say “ over my dead body we are fighting” instead he comes out and says all this Gibberish. He is of Nigerian descent like myself but I want to distance myself from him as much as possible he is not right in the head. Doesn’t he have friends and family that take him to one side and Say “ listen bird legs you nearly sank the boat saying that bulls#hit about the costume another stunt like that and we are toast, get yourself together and stop whining “ Instead his fans are making excuses for him talking about raw nerves :cool2::cool2::cool2:Sorry Anthony but I am going to have to refuse to dignify this post because this is not you. You don't even believe this yourself. You want to remain friendly and popular on this site. I get it.

This is one of the guys wilder fooooled easily. He is a fccking cun man.

No, I don't believe that and neither has Wilder said that. He just said that he could no longer trust Mark Breland that's all. He had instructed his entire team for the past five years to never throw in the towel no matter what and Wilder felt both hurt and betrayed by Breland for ignoring his wishes. However, I agree that he can't go around making false and defamatory statements against Mark Breland though. Right now Wilder is just operating off of raw nerves because Fury played him for a fool by walking away from the rematch. Bro he had 7 months to talk up to hype up interest about the rematch. He decided to sit in silence. Everyone knew Tyson wanted to fight, why didn’t Deontay come out earlier and say “ over my dead body we are fighting” instead he comes out and says all this Gibberish. He is of Nigerian descent like myself but I want to distance myself from him as much as possible he is not right in the head. Doesn’t he have friends and family that take him to one side and Say “ listen bird legs you nearly sank the boat saying that bulls#hit about the costume another stunt like that and we are toast, get yourself together and stop whining “ Instead his fans are making excuses for him talking about raw nerves :cool2::cool2::cool2:

What if what he says is absolute nonsense, what will you do? Furthermore you can’t sit there and tell me you believe Mark Breland is a double agent?No, I don't believe that and neither has Wilder said that. He just said that he could no longer trust Mark Breland that's all. He had instructed his entire team for the past five years to never throw in the towel no matter what and Wilder felt both hurt and betrayed by Breland for ignoring his wishes. However, I agree that he can't go around making false and defamatory statements against Mark Breland though. Right now Wilder is just operating off of raw nerves because Fury played him for a fool by walking away from the rematch.

Do that frighten you Wilder haters? If history proves that Wilder was right all along that Fury is indeed a born liar and a proven cheat then what? What if Deontay Wilder is vindicated? Would you guys then have the moral courage to admit that you were wrong for doubting him? What if what he says is absolute nonsense, what will you do? Furthermore you can’t sit there and tell me you believe Mark Breland is a double agent? I’m tired of you putting your neck on the line for him .Lololololol

Do that frighten you Wilder haters? If history proves that Wilder was right all along that Fury is indeed a born liar and a proven cheat then what? What if Deontay Wilder is vindicated? Would you guys then have the moral courage to admit that you were wrong for doubting him? Not gonna happen. Gloves were checked before and after the fight. Fact. I really do hope Wilder attempts some kind of spastic legal action to try and prove Fury had "loaded gloves". Why do I hope such a thing occurs? Because it will force the athletic commission to confirm the checks were made. It will force them and the WBC to confirm members were present the entire time. And then what? All you dimwit Wildettes will abandon your coveted glovegate conspiracy, switch tinfoil hats, and pour all your deluded energy into the new Watergate; "Breland really did spike Wilder's water!!!!!" :rofl: pathetic. He lost. Fair and square. In embarrassing fashion. Get over it, poppet.

When? I must have missed it. As far as an autopsy report; He doesn't need it. He has the forensics, the receipts and the documents to prove his case. As I've stated earlier; Wilder has the goods on him buddy! Which is why he is laying so low key. He is afraid of what the Bronze Bomber next move may be :lol1: LOL I look forward to the evidences. Where is that autopsy? Show me the autopsy that his sister Michellous was bleeting about. That really is one dumb family.

He's not sued him. It's not a legal case. But if it was... what I said would still apply. Balance of probabilities says it was a fist and not a complete mystery object.Well, that's why there are trials. In order to search for the truth.

He already has, he laughed and said they were ridiculous. So we are all waiting to hear from Wilder with some proof. We need that autopsy report for starters. When? I must have missed it. As far as an autopsy report; He doesn't need it. He has the forensics, the receipts and the documents to prove his case. As I've stated earlier; Wilder has the goods on him buddy! Which is why he is laying so low key. He is afraid of what the Bronze Bomber next move may be :lol1: