Usyk vs Wilder?

So just to clarify and make sure I’ve got it right, Fury is just an Irishman from Ireland, but Saunders is a real Gypsy with heritage from India, right? Basically yes, since the English travellers (as opposed to the Irish travellers) are indeed a Romani subgroup. That being said, I am not sure how much Romani blood Sauders really has in him. The Romani that I know from Middle Europe have a totally different phenotype - black hair, dark eyes, a visibly darker skin color than your typical European - you can truly see the Indian heritage there. Saunders on the other hand looks very much like a Brit to me - maybe the English travellers mixed a lot with the natives, whereas the Balkan Romani were more conservative. Just a theory.

Usyk gets stopped..he is to easy to hit

Is Wilder going to fight again though? Or just cry in IG?

Would that be another Fury - Wilder 2 all over again? We all know Wilder has 0 technical skills and only hopes to land his windmill. But if he doesn't land, the whole house of cards falls apart pretty easily. You think Usyk can TKO Wilder as did Fury? I am interested.

the easiest fight for Usyk in the heavyweight division

im saying straight up that wilder cant hold a shot. even ortiz had him wobbled, fury doesnt stop fighters yet he repeatedly hurt bum squad ortiz hits harder than Usyk as well hahaha. Do you disagree? I got a better question, who would which of these 3 would you NOT want to get hit by? Fury, Usyk, Ortiz?

killed by the mob with a police cover up? Wouldn't matter because whatever idiot brain-dead decision will leave him with either a shotgun filled head wound or a a few heroin shots in the tongue.

Would that be another Fury - Wilder 2 all over again? We all know Wilder has 0 technical skills and only hopes to land his windmill. But if he doesn't land, the whole house of cards falls apart pretty easily. You think Usyk can TKO Wilder as did Fury? Well I don't see Usyk coming in at 270 so no, I don't think it would be Fury-Wilder 2 all over again. Also, Usyk is 6'3" and not 6'9" so I don't think it would be Fury-Wilder 1 either. If Wilder drops the extra weight he brought into the Fury rematch and gets back to 215-220 lbs like he belongs then I favor him to beat Usyk. He might be down on the cards but he would land a big shot at some point.

im saying straight up that wilder cant hold a shot. even ortiz had him wobbled, fury doesnt stop fighters yet he repeatedly hurt bum squad Usyk flat out doesn’t have the power of Fury or Ortiz. It’s that simple. Why do I get the feeling that if Wilder was Caucasian and Usyk was Black you’d be telling a different story? Must be your past history here.

Usyk clearly can't punch as heavy as Fury but if throwing 4-5 clean punches does the same job as 1 big shot, I'm fine with that. Usyk is a skillful guy, he just needs some tuneup in this weight

people said fury couldnt punch and had no chance of stopping wilder. Are you implying that Usyk is more powerful than Fury?

People letting what Fury did and their hate for Wilder cloud their thinking obviously.

Usyk is 6'3" while Wilder is 6'7". He may be more skilled but every time he goes in close, he can get hit before he hits. And while Usyk has good foot movement, his head movement isn't as good as Fury. Even Fury got hit the first time around and I doubt Usyk can hit back as hard as Fury did in the second fight. Fury was taller and heavier than Wilder and used that to his advantage to tire Wilder. Usyk cannot do that either. Wilder is also athletic and has got speed, plus will not gas out like Chisora. Tough one for Usyk and he will have to be perfect for 12 rounds.

The story goes that Cromwell's invasion of Ireland displaced many and led to a new nomadic subculture that was similar to the older Romani gypsy culture from the east. The problem is that Irish travellers have been believing they are Romani for a long time until recent genetic studies proved they are not related. Tyson fury even said he is a descendant of Cyrus the Great. How would he know that? It's nonsense. The guy blags a lot. It's like when you get black people in America claiming they're the real Israelites and likewise some claiming the kemetic belief system as their own. They are west African and should accept that. Romani gypsies btw are well known for forcing their women into pr0$titution and begging. Traits that frowned upon by Irish travellers. That makes sense, thanks for the excellent explanation. So just to clarify and make sure I’ve got it right, Fury is just an Irishman from Ireland, but Saunders is a real Gypsy with heritage from India, right?

Thanks for explaining, I guess since Fury’s always grouped with Billy Joe Saunders as one of the Gypsy boxers, they could have fooled me. In one such BBC article, it states ““A lot of the fighters in gyms on the amateur circuit are travellers," says Billy Joe Saunders, the current middleweight British and Commonwealth champion, who is himself a Romany Gypsy.“ and then it talks about Tyson Fury and he makes some comment about his heritage and how nobody wants to fight a Gypsy. https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/24355478 So do the real Gypsy’s sort of include the Irish Gypsy’s in their subculture? Cause if I’m understanding you correctly, Billy Joe Saunders, and these people in the video, come from India, but the Furies are no different genetically from guys like James Joyce and Conor McGregor... basically just regular white Irishmen with a bohemian culture? The story goes that Cromwell's invasion of Ireland displaced many and led to a new nomadic subculture that was similar to the older Romani gypsy culture from the east. The problem is that Irish travellers have been believing they are Romani for a long time until recent genetic studies proved they are not related. Tyson fury even said he is a descendant of Cyrus the Great. How would he know that? It's nonsense. The guy blags a lot. It's like when you get black people in America claiming they're the real Israelites and likewise some claiming the kemetic belief system as their own. They are west African and should accept that. Romani gypsies btw are well known for forcing their women into pr0$titution and begging. Traits that frowned upon by Irish travellers.

Obviously Usyk has the skills to outbox Wilder but Wilder has a freaky first step, his power is sudden and violent. I'd like to see the fight.

Wilder doesn’t have a solid chin to take flush shots good and we seen him losing rounds to both southpaws Szpilka and Ortiz before landing a shot . Usyk can crack he’s got a decent punch ,he would confuse Wilder and only active jabbers or pressure fighters who keep punching have a shot. Look at this fight ? Wilder would be easy pickings for Usyk to figure out he doesn’t throw in volume and has the worst balance when he misses ,you saw Chisora falling over missing in many spots that’s what would happen but Chisora has a better chin . Usyk would stagger Wilder and if he didn’t finish him he’d be up on the cards by a mile for Wilder to win . Sorry, I quit reading after you claimed Usyk can crack. I realize you hate Wilder but don't make up dumb shyte.

usyk beats him easily, at this stage wilder is easy pickings and a broken man, the hype is gone noones scared of him anymore. i'd fancy chisora to take him out as well, wilder has no business going in there with a top 15 heavyweight anymore as they will just put it on him from round 1 as they know he cant take it. all that is left for wilder is to fight luis ortiz again I realize Wilder is both of the things you hate (he's both black and American) but don't get carried away. Usyk flat out doesn't have the punching power to keep Wilder at bay and Chisora doesn't have the skill. Wilder KOes both of them.

Without those Tyson Fury's custom made boxing gloves; Olexander Usyk doesn't stand a chance against the "Bronze Bomber". He'll get slept in six.

I don`t know how is Usyk easy win for anybody. If usyk is able to keep Wilder`s right hand away, he can outbox Wilder. he would have to fight a perfect fight and not get hit at all. If he can do that, he'd win. From what I saw saturday, he can't do that