Are African Americans not allowed to be great?

Not if they're British Facts. I don’t think it’s a problem with the race but with the racism in America. I do believe the British fans see the verbiage used for black American boxers and continue the trend however.

Few fighters come from college or an etiquette training. A fighter will generally come from tough times, it is what it is.......Rockin':boxing: But black boxers become successful and the thug label follows them. Often despite their being past that rough upbringing. It’s caused them to be targeted, some would say. Rubin Carter, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson... the list goes on.

Hispanics root for their boxers Eastern euros get praised by whites Historically and even now we have more african american champs and yet they get trashed when they win over and over again... ' When African Americans win there is always so damn excuse..and when they lose this board celebrates like they just won the damn lotto but let African Americans do that with a Hispanic or an eastern euro and we are called racist... THEY LITERALLY STILL TRY TO ATTACK FLOYD WHEN NONE OF THE FIGHTERS THEY SUPPORT HAVE DONE 1/10TH OF WHAT HE HAS DONE. Sorry but you're mistaken. Give us just ONE champ of any race or nationality, that doesn't get trashed or hated by some person or tribe. Black, white, hispanic, aisian, etc. It's the nature of fans to put a guy on a pedestal and then knock him off. One reason that Floyd draws heat is because he loves the limelight and makes statements that are controversial. If a fighter claims to be TBE, you best believe he's gonna get some heat.

you know what..forget it..blacks are trash and a strain on society....we are always wrong, we suck and ugly and if it aint white it aint right..im done....the other side can say whatever and when I call them out im the one being a victim..the hell with all of you and good night Lol toys well and truly out the pram there.

Well, blacks haven't crawled out yet and still occupy the ghettos in full force. Not much dominating theyre doing right now. Probably won't ever again. Talent doesn't discriminate based on economic levels. Most of the top prospects, the ones that will dominate the incoming generation seem to be well-off normal dudes. I don't think that stereotype adheres anymore. Being poor makes you hungrier, but it will never give you talent. No matter how much they may want it, a poor guy with no talent will never beat someone who has it. Of course not but if there isn’t the infrastructure and facilities to make the most of your talent. When Francis Nnganou wanted to take up boxing in his native Cameroon there was pretty much no where to get involved. No good gyms (or any gyms), trainers, sparring partners or promoters. Not much he could do apart from travel illegally across African to get to France where he could actually train and have a chance of succeeding

Why is Larry still dickriding Floyd and bringing him up?

Top elite? Explain. Name drop what we see in the pros and back it by who they fought. Pretty obvious, Usyk and Loma for a start, 2 P4P top 10 from a country with around a tenth the population of the US, that's an obvious over representation. Don't get hung up on that point tho, it was only an example to highlight that it's obviously not race that matters, any population with good participation, good training and the other environmental factors and you'll get good boxers, the skin color makes no difference.

This is a stupid question to ask considering many of boxing ATGs that are universally loved and Black Americans.

We already know, it's not racism, it's X. heard it, don't give a ****, you done been judged. Should just move along. Haha foh with that bull****. Do I honestly need to explain why I dislike woman beaters like Wilder & Floyd? As for Ward, I was a big Carl Froch fan, and I think he's up his own arse and he thinks his **** don't stink. My 2nd fav fighter in boxing is Derek Chisora btw.

' When African Americans win there is always so damn excuse..and when they lose this board celebrates like they just won the damn lotto you must have been on holiday when ggg kov loma etc lost then & even when they didn't!

Dude you're asking a bunch of racists if they're racists. You already know the answer bud. All I can say is my eyes never saw it. The worst and most egregious act I have ever done as a boxing fan was being a fan of Mayweather, Ward, and Wilder. Through them I learned what hate really is. Obviously I am a fan of other fighters too and others all have, had, and will have their detractors but it's nothing even close to what Mayweather, Ward, or Wilder have. I don't get anti-Rock **** like I do anti-Wilder ****. They are nothing like one another, they fight, act, dress, conduct themselves, all very differently. Only two things they have in common are they are black and they are hated. People hate Mayweather/Wilder/Ward because they're a bunch of bellends, not not because they're black.

'are we not allowed to be great' Eddie Hearn's Mount Rushmore of boxing, his top 4 Ali, Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard and Pernell Whittaker no one has hated on eddie hearn more than the american black online boxing community. no one asked for this https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/IQzehRRDwennkZpOoAcpEg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2020-02/76e689d0-577d-11ea-bdfb-925648e34b2c https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/hypatia-h_0e05d14643fe70b81d0502c182ce1c04-h_1ddc49fceee3a2f8a02691723fb97991.jpg.jpg https://blacksportsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Deontay-Wilder-822x1024.png adrien broner tank davis jermell charlo (jermall seems ok for now) meanwhile you get a guy like anthony sims jr do a few interviews and suddenly british boxing fans LOVE the guy (no idea why he has vanished from boxing right now, i want to see him make a comeback after his loss)

Whining??? who is whining??? im calling out biased and clear racism The majority of recognized legends are blacks, you know a lot of those Pro black boxing channels on youtube were calling manny pacquiao an honorary white man and said pacquiao represented white supremacy lol. Thats when i started laughing. They also said you are racist if you support loamchenko and golovkins

Hispanics root for their boxers Eastern euros get praised by whites Historically and even now we have more african american champs and yet they get trashed when they win over and over again... ' When African Americans win there is always so damn excuse..and when they lose this board celebrates like they just won the damn lotto but let African Americans do that with a Hispanic or an eastern euro and we are called racist... THEY LITERALLY STILL TRY TO ATTACK FLOYD WHEN NONE OF THE FIGHTERS THEY SUPPORT HAVE DONE 1/10TH OF WHAT HE HAS DONE. I expect better from you Larry.

Hispanics root for their boxers Eastern euros get praised by whites Historically and even now we have more african american champs and yet they get trashed when they win over and over again... ' When African Americans win there is always so damn excuse..and when they lose this board celebrates like they just won the damn lotto but let African Americans do that with a Hispanic or an eastern euro and we are called racist... THEY LITERALLY STILL TRY TO ATTACK FLOYD WHEN NONE OF THE FIGHTERS THEY SUPPORT HAVE DONE 1/10TH OF WHAT HE HAS DONE. it comes with the territory, once they become relevant both hype and hate grow fast, for all races... look at canelo, he is hispanic snd also gets a lot of hate, but thats what you get at certain level and is all good, is all part of the game... by the way the hate towards floyd is big part of his success and im sure he embraces that..

Bullsheet... The ridiculous standards came from know nothings believing that the know the sport and posting their BELIEFS on the forum. The Ghost of Dempsey knows the sport. Do you?...........Rockin':boxing: Yes people like ghost of Dempsey are who you’re talking about. Example, he constantly denigrates Floyd’s resume. Cool so posters take all the stuff he’s posted over the years and apply it to Loma and ggg and other Eastern European boxers. How is that hate for Eastern Europeans? If you put The same microscope on an Eastern European boxer’s resume as guys like him did prominent black boxers, what is the problem?

Actually, Floyd fans praised his win over JMM as one of his best. Boasted about it for years. So when Loma beat Rigo...who many Floyd fans predicted would school Loma, suddenly it was a bad win over a smaller, older opponent. The circumstances were different. Floyd agreed to a catch weight and then didn't bother to make weight, and refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. Rigo could have had the fight at 126, but played himself by pricing himself out. There was only a seven pound difference between them on fight night. When Teo won against Loma, all of the sudden Floyd fans came out of the woodwork to celebrate and ride Teo's dick. That comes from Loma hatred, and more importantly, Eastern-Euro hate. They did the same things with GGG and Kovalev. There is a distinct pattern of bias against EU fighters. Posters like you created these ridiculous standards and nuances to denigrate hof black boxers. When they are used against Eastern European boxers, you claim it’s hate. That simply doesn’t make any sense. Loma fought cowardly and lost and got clowned. You guys have spent years creating memes and gifs when prominent black fighters lose. Why are you whining when it’s done to a fighter you like? Maybe if you had shown some more respect to guys like Floyd, Roy and bhop rather than constantly denigrating their achievements then the forum would operate differently. You and posters like you brought this to the forum. Don’t cry foul when the guys you like are subjected to the crap you created.

Only with the fans is it an issue. It's funny, as a fighter I never gave a sheet what race you were. And neither did my fellow fighters. Either you fought your ass off and gained respect or you did not. It had nothing to do with race, with the fighters........Rockin':boxing: Sounds nice until you think about how many of your fav fighters have been talked about like thugs, then ended up in jail. Now one doesn’t lead to the other, but perception can definitely impact reality.

Actually, Floyd fans praised his win over JMM as one of his best. Boasted about it for years. So when Loma beat Rigo...who many Floyd fans predicted would school Loma, suddenly it was a bad win over a smaller, older opponent. The circumstances were different. Floyd agreed to a catch weight and then didn't bother to make weight, and refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. Rigo could have had the fight at 126, but played himself by pricing himself out. There was only a seven pound difference between them on fight night. When Teo won against Loma, all of the sudden Floyd fans came out of the woodwork to celebrate and ride Teo's dick. That comes from Loma hatred, and more importantly, Eastern-Euro hate. They did the same things with GGG and Kovalev. There is a distinct pattern of bias against EU fighters. It’s because of Loma why I have gone off Tank because he appeared scared and started talking about Only fighting him on PPV

Actually, Floyd fans praised his win over JMM as one of his best. Boasted about it for years. So when Loma beat Rigo...who many Floyd fans predicted would school Loma, suddenly it was a bad win over a smaller, older opponent. The circumstances were different. Floyd agreed to a catch weight and then didn't bother to make weight, and refused to be weighed on the day of the fight. Rigo could have had the fight at 126, but played himself by pricing himself out. There was only a seven pound difference between them on fight night. When Teo won against Loma, all of the sudden Floyd fans came out of the woodwork to celebrate and ride Teo's dick. That comes from Loma hatred, and more importantly, Eastern-Euro hate. They did the same things with GGG and Kovalev. There is a distinct pattern of bias against EU fighters. It was a good win over Jmm having been retired for 2 years. There is no excuses about missing weight and he had to pay 600,000 and so he should. Maybe not having to make weight for 2 years could have played a part but it is what it is and he was financially penalised. As for Loma I didn’t think much of him until he beat Rigo because for me he didn’t use his size to win. I supported him right up till the 12th round where Leo nearly stopped him.Im from Europe so I don’t hate European fighters