The WBC heavyweight changes are stupid

It is quite stupid and frankly a bit frustrating. 18 weight classes is a lot to follow and a big reason why I think people would rather watch MMA, and even I have been guilty of that myself as MMA is my favorite sport after boxing and the UFC, Bellator and a few other promotions have been consistently putting on good fights that make sense, alongside weight classes that are much easier to follow since they only have one champ. In a perfect world, there is one champ per weight class and 17 world champions wouldn’t be so bad for me, it’s just the fact that the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO are corrupt as all hell and don’t even recognize champions in the other bodies on their rankings. It’s ridiculous. We’d at least have way more unification fights and make it somewhat easier to follow. But with all this WBA “super” and WBC “franchise” BS, it just makes it all the more confusing. And the sad part is you know the WBO, IBF and WBA will more than likely follow suit on this new 224-lb weight class and we’ll have even more belts and a watered down heavyweight division to boot. Being a boxing fan sucks sometimes. You wonder if the sanctioning bodies even think about the fans, but money talks and that’s all they care about.

After looking at a newer news article (I read an article a week ago, that didn't have any clarifying points), you are correct in that there is no minimum weight, however I am not sure there is a minimum weight in any division, so I believe my points are valid. Would people below 224lb be ranked in the division? Could someone below 224lb become a mandatory challenger? Yes, they just need to fight at heavyweight. Regardless of their weight. If they instead chose to fight 190-224 guys at Super-Cruiser (or whatever it gets called) then they'd be ranked in that division instead. I'd imagine it's going to be a breeding ground for younger heavyweights. Grab a belt in a division that won't have as much prestige (or money) and then move up for the bigger money.

You forgot the positive “More money” in the pocket of Sulieman... For the “Most prestigious” of all the belts lol.

I haven’t posted on here for years, but after seeing the news of the WBC changes to the heavyweight I felt the need to have a rant. It is a really dumb idea and I don’t think they have even thought it through properly. From a sporting perspective it doesn’t even make sense: 1. The WBC champion for the past 5 years wouldn’t even qualify for the new heavyweight division, which makes the whole thing stupid. He weighed below the proposed 224lb weight 7 times, and got a draw against Fury weighing just 213lb 2. There have been heavyweight title holders since 2000 that have weighed below 224lb, including Chris Byrd, David Haye and Deontay Wilder. Jones won a title in 2003 weighing just 193lb 3. There are good heavyweight contenders below the 224lb weight. Michael Hunter and Oleksandr Usyk for example 4. They will weaken the division by reducing the talent pool taking part 5. The heavyweight division is the blue chip division (at least it used to be) and by splitting it in half they will devalue there own title 6. If the other sanctioning bodies don’t follow the WBC with these changes they will further devalue them self’s and then WBA, IBF, WBO can claim to be the true heavyweight titles 7. Fighters moving up from cruiserweight won’t fight for the new WBC titles. It would make more financial sense to fight for proper heavyweight titles 8. Crusierweight and heavyweight unification will become more complicated (hopefully the other sanctioning bodies won't change there weight classes) 9. Most of the great heavyweights from the past would no longer be heavyweights 10. The heavyweight division is the most important from a historical and media perspective, by all but removing the division they risk relegating the sport to proper minority sport status I can't think of any positives from this move. The only thing I can think is the WBC have not even thought this through properly and are just after money from sanctioning another belt, maybe they are in trouble due to coronavirus and need more fees. Hopefully the other sanctioning bodies don’t change, and this might force the WBC to rethink there plan, or reduce the WBC to paper belt status. Good post man... It’s completely f***ing stupid, if there’s one thing boxing doesn’t need it’s more titles and more divisions. The product is diluted enough as it is.

A lot of the chit we have to put up with from the alphabet organisations is stupid. One World title in each division. We could still have continental and regional champions. Makes perfect sense, but then these vultures wouldn't be able to feast on their "sanctioning fees."

The WBC won’t put restrictions on any former or current champion to fight at the new class though . What they weigh will be on them as long as it’s reasonably within distance . What the poster did is pick selective guys which makes up about 1. % of anyone who ever won a heavyweight title and used Haye defeating Valuev but ignored the Klitschko fight ? Ha The fact is there’s no one under 215 that has a significant chance at winning a title here ,Wilder got his clock cleaned by 270 pound Fury and couldn’t deal with him in the first one weighing 209 that’s the fighters of now not yesterday so I’m not sure where the logic is having a heavy weight class start at 200 ? There is no actual sense to it . It’s why the Cruiserweight division was created because then the cut off mark made no sense either like this one doesn’t now as is outdated . The cruiserweight is already chit as it is, why add a super cruiserweight division on top of it. whatever weight limit you set it at, guys will just drain as they see fit but whenever they raise their stock they will leave it and come back to heavy where all the attention is. Any cruiserweight that makes a name abandons it for heavyweight, the division just ends up as a no mans land. Those heavyweights under 215 that you say cant make it at heavy... they can make cruiser as it is now and are CHOOSING to fight at heavy. What does adding a new division do to help?

WBC most prestigious doe. :dunce:

the number of heavyweights who are actually over 240 pounds lean and in the top 10 are a lot smaller than they make it out to be. all of these 260 pound bloat lords are walking around but if they had to be lean like fighters in other divisions they would really be a 230 pound guy Povetkin just came in at 224 as a 40 year old man and sparked out one of the top heavyweights. so why do we need another division, we dont.

After looking at a newer news article (I read an article a week ago, that didn't have any clarifying points), you are correct in that there is no minimum weight, however I am not sure there is a minimum weight in any division, so I believe my points are valid. Would people below 224lb be ranked in the division? Could someone below 224lb become a mandatory challenger?

Every point in the original post seems to be based on an error of fact. They haven't proposed a minimum have they? And Heavyweight will still be the blue riband division. I'm not a fan of the proposed new weight class either, but for none of the reasons above. If someone like Wilder thinks his best chance of beating big heavyweights is to be 215, then there's no problem. He doesn't need to weigh 235 just for the sake of it.

i laughed when it said "so that wilder could fight usyk" - as if they can't theoretically fight right now at HW - as if wilder would even fight usyk it's pathetic from sulaiman, just wants more money. the franchise belt situation was a total joke already, now this. the man is literally destroying boxing and everyone in boxing praises the guy. im sure sulaiman does more for boxing on a ground floor level than the other organisations though. these organisations are all corrupt for sure. the dodgy rankings and mandatories prove they are.

I haven’t posted on here for years, but after seeing the news of the WBC changes to the heavyweight I felt the need to have a rant. It is a really dumb idea and I don’t think they have even thought it through properly. From a sporting perspective it doesn’t even make sense: 1. The WBC champion for the past 5 years wouldn’t even qualify for the new heavyweight division, which makes the whole thing stupid. He weighed below the proposed 224lb weight 7 times, and got a draw against Fury weighing just 213lb 2. There have been heavyweight title holders since 2000 that have weighed below 224lb, including Chris Byrd, David Haye and Deontay Wilder. Jones won a title in 2003 weighing just 193lb 3. There are good heavyweight contenders below the 224lb weight. Michael Hunter and Oleksandr Usyk for example 4. They will weaken the division by reducing the talent pool taking part 5. The heavyweight division is the blue chip division (at least it used to be) and by splitting it in half they will devalue there own title 6. If the other sanctioning bodies don’t follow the WBC with these changes they will further devalue them self’s and then WBA, IBF, WBO can claim to be the true heavyweight titles 7. Fighters moving up from cruiserweight won’t fight for the new WBC titles. It would make more financial sense to fight for proper heavyweight titles 8. Crusierweight and heavyweight unification will become more complicated (hopefully the other sanctioning bodies won't change there weight classes) 9. Most of the great heavyweights from the past would no longer be heavyweights 10. The heavyweight division is the most important from a historical and media perspective, by all but removing the division they risk relegating the sport to proper minority sport status I can't think of any positives from this move. The only thing I can think is the WBC have not even thought this through properly and are just after money from sanctioning another belt, maybe they are in trouble due to coronavirus and need more fees. Hopefully the other sanctioning bodies don’t change, and this might force the WBC to rethink there plan, or reduce the WBC to paper belt status.nobody but the WBC will recognize this new weight class so it won't last long.

The thing about the new weight class is it would be easy for most heavyweights to make the 224 mark. It's not uncommon for a fighter to gain 12 to 15 after weigh in so realistically a 240 pound heavyweight could cut enough weight to make weight then balloon back up before the fight. Its ridiculous. We have too many weight classes and too many belts already