Stronger chin: Danny Garcia or Errol Spence.

well post accident obviously favor garcia, for him nothing has changed. With spence you have to wonder if there are any mental blocks with him having his teeth replaced, I know i would always be wondering will they hold up or are my new fake teeth going to all come out.

You certainly know your stuff. About Canada, I meant my previous username before I changed it with the points feature was something stupid like dot.c.eh. As in .ca, the Canadian web domain, with the "eh" as the expression we are known to say. I originally registered just to see some pictures and never expected to post actively. The more I posted the more I hated it and eventually settled on this as RumbleYoungMan was taken. Oh I see, I thought you actually lived in Canada and was curious as to where. Don't forget to look up those I mentioned Young Stribling, Nicolino Locche, Young Griffo, but you'd have to add what I sent you about Griffo...And watch that movie The Set-Up:. I'd like your opinion on all of them. Just for clean, literate, conversation. If not, no harm. I played with 2-3 top British Jazz bands.....only when their regular player was absent. When I came to mid-Vancouver Island, I eventually gathered a Jazz band for about 10 years with the very same guys. 5 piece, Cornet, clar. banjo, bass, drums w/drums doubling on 2nd cornet. Between up-island and close to Victoria, about 100 miles, we played at most of the functions, often being booked for regular yearly events, sometimes 2-3 jobs in a day. Great stuff and very enjoyable as well as being paid for having fun. We were all retired. I got fed-up, because a new band-member infected the others about a particular job he didn't want to do and which we'd played every year. It was a big deal. So I abruptly disbanded, and walked away. Later in Victoria I had another similar group, including 2 of the original members. I forgot to mention" Billie and Dee-Dee Pierce". Just the two of them often, Billie played piano and she sang, Dee-Dee played a very nice, laid back smooth cornet, in the old syncopated Jazz way. Later they joined the Preservation Hall band, as most retired oldtimers did. That band was not to my liking at all. No cohesion. Maybe because they had no real leader. At the same time , I really liked the Benny Goodman trio and Quartette, Artie Shaw, certain tunes..like "Lady Be Good". He does a great job on it in a particular recording which has a rollicking 8 bar intro. with Shaw taking the lead in break to the melody. The problem is, that they'd make the same tune, often several times, with different lineups and arrangements, not always likeable...Ian Henry (Garber) is a good friend of mine, since childhood. Look him up. by me I mean. Neva Raphallo, the British Jazz and Blues singer was great.(weighed about 200 lbs) I liked Joe Daniels and His Hotshots, and George Scott Wood and his Swingers, very much. So not only New Orleans Jazz, but good music of all kinds, including Viennese Waltzes by the Masters, as well as much Opera, and the Great Singers, from Nellie Melba and John McCormack, Gigli, Caruso, Jan Pierce, Yossele Rosenblatt onwards. That last appeared in the first talking movie "The Jazz Singer" with Al Jolson starring. Yossele was the most famous Jewish Cantor in the World, and sang 2-3 songs so beautifully...they were prayers of course..but beautiful. I have another story similar to this in which I myself took a part, because there was another very famous cantor and he had family..whom I knew. I'd better stop now, Music, Books, and Boxing, are my 3 pet "likes".

Yes I am definitely an "older guy"... For the dark side of boxing I recommend "The Set Up" with Robert Ryan and Audrey Totter. At one time it was regarded as the finest film about the REAL rotten business of boxing, but has become rather forgotten. It is very true to boxing life as I know it to be. An added advantage is that Ryan was a top amateur Heavyweight boxer in Dartmouth College for the whole time he was there, 4-5 years. As for Jazz, I know andhave heard, maybe have tapes of several you mention I don't care all that much for Jelly Roll as a piano player but his "Red Hot Peppers" were top class...except when he messed it up by insisting on taking solos. He dragged the upbeat tempos in a laborious manner. At least that's my opinion. I like the King Oliver Creole Jazzband" best, Johnny Wiggs, etc. not the brass band stuff.......and as a jazz clarinet player nobody better than Kenny Davern, although a bit more modern. I just liked his playing. He made a terrific recording of "A closer Walk with Thee" with his Salty Dogs, not easy to find even on youtube today. He really "takes off" and the up-tempo choruses doing 4-5-6 in a row , each one very different, getting higher and sweeter than any other I've heard. What about Canada...?? You certainly know your stuff. About Canada, I meant my previous username before I changed it with the points feature was something stupid like dot.c.eh. As in .ca, the Canadian web domain, with the "eh" as the expression we are known to say. I originally registered just to see some pictures and never expected to post actively. The more I posted the more I hated it and eventually settled on this as RumbleYoungMan was taken.

Right, I forgot there was a connection to avatar/name too. That was only partially coincidence. The book isn't about a single individual however, it's about Tris Dixon tracking down the forgotten fighters and ones who vanished from the limelight to interview. Pretty raw book and more about the darker side of boxing or after boxing than the sport itself. As for the music. You are obviously an older guy, and not going to expect you to like rap music. However I like Jellyroll Morton, Professor Longhair , Dr. John, Allen Toussaint, Trombone Shorty, Rebirth Brass band among others for some more modern New Orleans sound. Well Jellyroll ain't exactly modern but "The Crave" is one of my favorite piano pieces. Oh and how could I forget my absolute favorite pianist James Booker. Last but not least indeed. I play piano and guitar so even as an entitled millennial I can appreciate some good music, though not sure you're into any of that since you seem to like the really traditional brass stuff. Anyway nice talking with you as always. Yes I am definitely an "older guy"... For the dark side of boxing I recommend "The Set Up" with Robert Ryan and Audrey Totter. At one time it was regarded as the finest film about the REAL rotten business of boxing, but has become rather forgotten. It is very true to boxing life as I know it to be. An added advantage is that Ryan was a top amateur Heavyweight boxer in Dartmouth College for the whole time he was there, 4-5 years. As for Jazz, I know andhave heard, maybe have tapes of several you mention I don't care all that much for Jelly Roll as a piano player but his "Red Hot Peppers" were top class...except when he messed it up by insisting on taking solos. He dragged the upbeat tempos in a laborious manner. At least that's my opinion. I like the King Oliver Creole Jazzband" best, Johnny Wiggs, etc. not the brass band stuff.......and as a jazz clarinet player nobody better than Kenny Davern, although a bit more modern. I just liked his playing. He made a terrific recording of "A closer Walk with Thee" with his Salty Dogs, not easy to find even on youtube today. He really "takes off" and the up-tempo choruses doing 4-5-6 in a row , each one very different, getting higher and sweeter than any other I've heard. What about Canada...??

Spence got rocked by Brook a couple of times! U can't say he ain't been tested. That was his test So true killa

Spence got rocked by Brook a couple of times! U can't say he ain't been tested. That was his test

I have not seen Danny Garcia hurt, staggered, stunned. Or I just missed some of his early fights. Lucas definitely hurt him and danny didnt crumble. He sent his mouthpiece into the third row lol he got wobbled by Thurman early too Danny has a set of whiskers man. Like most have said Spence was walking through a lot of porters shots but I think I favor garcia here

Spence has been tested but he passed them well. The 3 guys he fought were all good fighters but not huge punchers. Brook, Porter , and Mikey. All 3 are good punchers, not great. I would say Brook or Mikey punch harder than Shawn for one punch, but Shawn has That dawg in him. Shawn is physically strong. However Spence outsized all those guys with the exception of Brook. Garcia is a strong guy too. I still think Garciaś best punch is better than any of those guys best punch. Danny is the biggest puncher he’s faced tbf. Danny doesn’t seem to have fully carried his power from 140 up to 147 though. Hasn’t had many KO’s at 147.

No I didn't know anything more abut Ali's poem, apart from the "float like a".. I didn't like Ali one bit. Dubbing himself "The Greatest" meant nothing to me because he wasn't the greatest. Not even to himself. I thought your name was to do with that obnoxious individual's mono-tonal bellow...Because of the picture it seemed obvious. I regret (I really don't but am being polite) I know nothing about "hip-hop" nor what it is. I'm a confirmed life-long (from teen years) enthusiast and instrumentalist of New Orleans Jazz, of around the King Oliver period. Personally I'd rather read essays/articles by well known boxing experts, than books about a single individual. That is, when it is boxing. I know other fighters come into the stories, but mainly as backdrops. The writer always digs up something discreditable, because the human animal loves to hear about sordidness in the lives of others.. I don't. Writers even invent or amplify events to cause more of that unhealthy interest. I got a present of the greatest fight in the history of boxing,.... the Joe Louis destruction of Max Schmeling in less than a round about a year before the WAR.. I got it over 10 years ago, and, although I'm familiar with almost all the events described, and normally would be happy to be reminded of them, can not interest myself enough to complete it. I'm about 1/4 or 1/3 of the way through, and haven't touched it for about 2 years. Yes, I'm lazy, but have a good excuse. Right, I forgot there was a connection to avatar/name too. That was only partially coincidence. The book isn't about a single individual however, it's about Tris Dixon tracking down the forgotten fighters and ones who vanished from the limelight to interview. Pretty raw book and more about the darker side of boxing or after boxing than the sport itself. As for the music. You are obviously an older guy, and not going to expect you to like rap music. However I like Jellyroll Morton, Professor Longhair , Dr. John, Allen Toussaint, Trombone Shorty, Rebirth Brass band among others for some more modern New Orleans sound. Well Jellyroll ain't exactly modern but "The Crave" is one of my favorite piano pieces. Oh and how could I forget my absolute favorite pianist James Booker. Last but not least indeed. I play piano and guitar so even as an entitled millennial I can appreciate some good music, though not sure you're into any of that since you seem to like the really traditional brass stuff. Anyway nice talking with you as always.

Well you should know that it's from that famous Ali quote ("Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee; rumble, young man, rumble AHHHH") and more aptly in my case from Max and Sam Kellerman's silly little hip-hop song about boxing that I will admit I love. I sure ain't changing my name, already changed it once from some convoluted pun about being Canadian haha... As for the history stuff, no I was busy last night studying fight tape for this weekends picks but I have all 3 names in a text file of research to do when I have some spare time. But first I have to finish this depressing book I am half way done "The Road to Nowhere: A Journey Through Boxing's Wastelands" No I didn't know anything more abut Ali's poem, apart from the "float like a".. I didn't like Ali one bit. Dubbing himself "The Greatest" meant nothing to me because he wasn't the greatest. Not even to himself. I thought your name was to do with that obnoxious individual's mono-tonal bellow...Because of the picture it seemed obvious. I regret (I really don't but am being polite) I know nothing about "hip-hop" nor what it is. I'm a confirmed life-long (from teen years) enthusiast and instrumentalist of New Orleans Jazz, of around the King Oliver period. Personally I'd rather read essays/articles by well known boxing experts, than books about a single individual. That is, when it is boxing. I know other fighters come into the stories, but mainly as backdrops. The writer always digs up something discreditable, because the human animal loves to hear about sordidness in the lives of others.. I don't. Writers even invent or amplify events to cause more of that unhealthy interest. I got a present of a book about one of the greatest fights in boxing history,.... the Joe Louis destruction of Max Schmeling in less than a round about a year before the WAR.. I got it about 12 years ago, and, although I'm familiar with almost all the events described, and normally would be happy to be reminded of them, can not interest myself enough to complete it. I'm about 1/4 or 1/3 of the way through, and haven't touched it for about 2 years. It entitled "The Greatest Fight Of Our Generation", by Lewis Erenberg. Yes, I'm lazy, but have a good excuse. Are you saying you're a Canadian. I live in Victoria B.C.

I am not sure Spence is the harder hitter with one shot. Spence grinds you down with heavy shots. Dannyś no look hook is better than any one punch Spence throws. The key to the fight is Danny willing to excahnge fire or is going to sit around and wait for one shot. ? People get it misconstrued...Danny right hand is far superior than his heavy left he actually cant miss with his right, see Guerreo and Rios for reference...The thing is the world tricked Danny to believe this with his massive knockdowns with the left, he's too left hand reliant and forgets about his right...people get the misconception he's slow or a one handed fighter that's not true see his early career wars, if Danny doesn't get left hand complacent(see porter landing double hook combos n such) and fire off quick and accurate combos like he does he beats spence who was getting buzzed all over the ring easily imo...

Your picture is far, far better, but your name reminds me of that Old New Orleans tune "Oh didn't he Ramble".... ("he rambled all around, round and round the town,...He Raambled he rambled, he rambled 'till the butcher cut him down").. Have you you delved into boxing history yet...? For fun also look up "Young Griffo"....what a character. Well you should know that it's from that famous Ali quote ("Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee; rumble, young man, rumble AHHHH") and more aptly in my case from Max and Sam Kellerman's silly little hip-hop song about boxing that I will admit I love. I sure ain't changing my name, already changed it once from some convoluted pun about being Canadian haha... As for the history stuff, no I was busy last night studying fight tape for this weekends picks but I have all 3 names in a text file of research to do when I have some spare time. But first I have to finish this depressing book I am half way done "The Road to Nowhere: A Journey Through Boxing's Wastelands"

I'd pick the guy that didn't go flying out of his Ferrari like Superman /e My apologies I cannot read. I'll just let this sit here and make me look like an illiterate ass hole Your picture is far, far better, but your name reminds me of that Old New Orleans tune "Oh didn't he Ramble".... ("he rambled all around, round and round the town,...He Raambled he rambled, he rambled 'till the butcher cut him down").. Have you you delved into boxing history yet...? For fun also look up "Young Griffo"....what a character. I just looked at Wiki for Young Griffo again, and not a single episode remained of which I wanted you to see. Which was why I termed it "fun" His life presently presented by Wiki was a tragedy....which it actually was, taken as a whole. But he used to go into bars, stand on a handkerchief and allow other boozers to take swings at him for drinks if they missed. And they nearly always missed which was why he was ALWAYS drunk. . He was the greatest defensive wizard of all time. Second, I rank Nicolino Locche, who was almost impossible to hit, had about 125 fights scored only 14 KOs, and only 4 losses. Had fights against and beat many top champions. He won his 140 lb title when the Champion, completely frustrated by not being able to hit him although he was standing right in front of him, quit. You can see it on Youtube. He was a ferocious smoker and during the 1 min. breaks after rounds his crew would gather round whilst he'd take a few puffs.... Fact, I saw it myself. There are the most wonderful stories especially BEHIND the scenes of how matches were made. For example Joe Louis' son said that his father was in and out of sanatoriums and when a knock would come to the door, would creep under the table and pull down the tablecloth to hide. This was BEFORE he was dragged out and prepped with some easy fights before Rocky Marciano KOd him. I think it was all a mafia fix-up, as they were in charge then. And much more.

DSG have never shown a punch bothered him other than he knows he getting tagged a lil too much. Where ESJ has had a direct jerk from a a punch landed in the past. My Vote is DSJ in Power and Chin category and ESJ is Skills category.

Errol Spence has a granite chin, not even flying out of a car can knock him out!

Brook hit him with some solid shots... Spence has been tested but he passed them well. The 3 guys he fought were all good fighters but not huge punchers. Brook, Porter , and Mikey. All 3 are good punchers, not great. I would say Brook or Mikey punch harder than Shawn for one punch, but Shawn has That dawg in him. Shawn is physically strong. However Spence outsized all those guys with the exception of Brook. Garcia is a strong guy too. I still think Garciaś best punch is better than any of those guys best punch.

To be honest, Spence hasn’t been tested yet Brook hit him with some solid shots...

Both have very legit chins. It’s a 1a 1b situation for me.

I am not sure Spence is the harder hitter with one shot. Spence grinds you down with heavy shots. Dannyś no look hook is better than any one punch Spence throws. The key to the fight is Danny willing to excahnge fire or is going to sit around and wait for one shot. ?

Before the accident, was Spence's chin as good as Danny Garcia's chin? Danny has said that if he's able to land as often and as easy as Porter was landing, then it could be a short night. If they start trading hard shots, whose chin will hold up?Their chins are about the same. neither has ever been knocked down. Spence is the harder puncher by a good amount. Car crashes don't change chins.