AJ is already 31 y.o. but yet to fight a truly Elite Boxer!

In reality Joshua was not destroyed by Ruiz Junior 'Beaten, but not destroyed'. Joshua in a underwhelming fight did shut Ruiz out in the rematch, I don't even think Ruiz Junior won a single round 'Maybe 1 round, that is about it'. Tyson Fury did not destroy Wilder twice, he was knocked down twice in the first fight 'And suffered heavy trauma in the 12 th, which probably still effects him today'. But of course? Tyson Fury won the rematch, conclusively. But once again lets 'Keep this real'. Tyson Fury is walking about as if he sparked Wilder out or beat him into submission 'And he is completely high off it'. Deontay Wilder was still fighting back at the time of the stoppage 'Tyson Fury knows this, and so do his hardcore fans'. I understand from a empathetic perspective why the fight was stopped 'But Deontay Wilder was not some cub, that needed to be saved for another day. Wilder was the 5 year reigning WBC heavyweight Champion of the world, and should of been allowed to go out on his shield 'You do not take a puncher out of a fight, if he is still fighting back'. There seems to be a new campaign, to convince everyone that Tyson Fury is some sort of genetic monster who destroys everything he touches 'I am convince social engineering experts work within the media, and just for the fun of it 'Play with people's minds in sport'. Tyson Fury has won two fights at elite level 'He bamboozled Kiltschko, where as Anthony Joshua retired Wladimir Kiltschko. When Kiltschko fought Joshua, Kiltshcko left it all in the ring 'The fight was reminiscent of a coronation' competitive athletes know when they are fully beaten, and Kiltschko knew Joshua beat him 'Where as in his mind? He only lost to Tyson Fury, there is a psychological difference'. The bottom line is? Tyson Fury is held to a lower standard than Anthony Joshua and is playing champion on medium mode 'And he does not have a deep extensive resume'. I agree with you about Fury Wilder one, but the rematch was a destruction. And AJ Ruiz one was a destruction. He was hurt again and again floored and battered. He won the rematch clearly while looking scared of being hit. Not the fearless fighter of the Wlad fight. He's lost something, and Fury is doing well in this moment. He's in the better form.

AJ is already 31 y.o. but yet to fight a truly Elite Boxer. Dude should get some balls and fight Fury or Wilder finally! Bum AJ has been running from a challenge his whole career ducking Wilder and Fury :smashfrea Wlad Klitschko ring a bell? lol :pat::smashfrea:smashfrea

He beat Klitschko. Fury and Usyk are the only elites he can face. Povetkin and Ortiz are decent skilled heavyweights, but old. Other heavyweights are not elite fighters.

I'm far from an AJ fan but objectively he has the best resume right now. Facing a Truly elite boxer? Slightly past prime Wlad Klitschko vertainly qualifies for that.

when theres no elites, its not really his fault, but on the other hand his record isnt great so far. maybe judge him when hes finished. by comparison GGG was 36 when he faced his first elite, and he couldnt win. Perhaps you are being harsh, AJ is way ahead of GGG.

I don't think every era is weak, just that some are weaker than others, and in a relative sense I feel the AJ/Fury era is lacking strength in depth. I agree... There’s no depth whatsoever at the moment. You’ve got Fury, Wilder, AJ. Some capable vets like Ortiz and Povetkin, then there’s the rest...

:lol1: Goddamn son, y'all was supposed to laugh. Seen what I did there did ya? Now, not only are ya stupid, but, you lack a sense of humor. I’m guessing the Joshua Protection League are still crying. :lol1:

I don't think every era is weak, just that some are weaker than others, and in a relative sense I feel the AJ/Fury era is lacking strength in depth. Fair enough. I think the early 2000s were even worse to be honest.

It's funny because it seems like every era was/is a poor heavyweight era except the '70s and '90s. "Joe Louis had the 'bum of the month' club" "Rocky Marciano only beat old fighters" "Larry Holmes ruled a weak era in the 80's" "Lennox Lewis and the Klitschko's ruled a weak era in the early 2000's" "Fury, Wilder and AJ are in a weak era" If almost every heavyweight era was weak then at some point it becomes relative right? And if Fury and Wilder have been busy fighting each other then all AJ can do is beat the best of the rest until he gets one or both of them in the ring. I don't think every era is weak, just that some are weaker than others, and in a relative sense I feel the AJ/Fury era is lacking strength in depth.

Klitschko was elite boxer. What are you talking about dude?

:lol1: :lol1: 28 Nov 2015 to 29 Apr 2017. That’s 15 months of inactivity. Wlad was training hard for fury rematch as fury keeps ducking him back to back.

:lol1: Goddamn son, y'all was supposed to laugh. Seen what I did there did ya? Now, not only are ya stupid, but, you lack a sense of humor. You was supposed to laugh at yourself also. You were too intelligent to get the sarcasm y’all must e smoking angel dust or got your face immersed in rotten minge. See you later bubba you are just too funny for me

How can h fight one when there aren't any fighting today? Fury is today's best heavyweight and he is supposed to be fighting him soon.

I don't actually take issue with your rating or any of the reasons you gave after, just, X beat Y so Y isn't elite...that were dumb. No neither do I take issue with your grammatical errors as in ‘were ‘and ‘was ‘and in the same sentence referring to person as Dumb. Goodbye

Remember that he along with Fury are fighting in a poor HW era. How many elite HWs is it possible to face? Maybe Tony Yoka or someone else can get involved in the discussions. Top tier right now is Fury and AJ, everyone else is B class or worse. It's funny because it seems like every era was/is a poor heavyweight era except the '70s and '90s. "Joe Louis had the 'bum of the month' club" "Rocky Marciano only beat old fighters" "Larry Holmes ruled a weak era in the 80's" "Lennox Lewis and the Klitschko's ruled a weak era in the early 2000's" "Fury, Wilder and AJ are in a weak era" If almost every heavyweight era was weak then at some point it becomes relative right? And if Fury and Wilder have been busy fighting each other then all AJ can do is beat the best of the rest until he gets one or both of them in the ring.

Right, like how Joe whooped B-Hop and RJJ so only Joe is Elite? Or how Marciano beat the HW KO king, the longest reigning champ, GOAT LHW, and the man with the biggest bag of tricks ever seen at HW, but only Marcino is Elite? How about that time Buster beat up Mike making Buster Elite and Mike just a bum? When Lennox beat Vitali he proved Vitali is not elite When Money whooped Pac, Pac's not elite. When SRL beat Hagler, made Hagler normal. TF beat Wlad with his basic ****, Wlad's not elite The list goes on and on, we all know I could do this for days. That was a dumbass comment bud. You have just reeled of ATG. You can’t compare wilder to any of them. He is regularly outboxed by C level fighters. His best win is Ortiz and he was outboxed both times by a 40 year old fighter. There is nothing elite about him. Is he on Fury’s level boxing wise? Hell is he on David price level boxing wise? There is nothing elite about the windmill. So I appreciate your input but I’ve got it from here thanks. However if you can convince me why you think Wilder is elite by all means talk if not forever keep your mouth closed and I mean that with the greatest of respect

Very true, I point this out all the time and people get triggered by it. Number of real champions beaten by Joshua - 0 Number of real champions beaten by Fury - 2 This means Fury has a better resume than Joshua. Fury's resume is top-heavy while Joshua's has more depth. By that I mean Fury has beaten Wlad and Wilder (the two real champions you speak of), but outside of that he hasn't beaten any other top-10 contender level guys. AJ hasn't fought Fury or Wilder of course but he's also beaten Wlad Klitschko (yes he was older but Fury didn't beat a prime Wlad either) along with "the best of the rest" (Dillian Whyte, Alexander Povetkin, Joseph Parker, Carlos Takam, Andy Ruiz in the rematch, and he's set to face Kubrat Pulev). Now if you don't rate those guys then that's fine but by that logic, there are only two other elite guys (Fury and Wilder) and they have been tied up fighting each other

AJ is already 31 y.o. but yet to fight a truly Elite Boxer. Dude should get some balls and fight Fury or Wilder finally! Bum AJ has been running from a challenge his whole career ducking Wilder and Fury :smashfrea I stopped reading reading when you put Wilder in the elite bracket. Wilder was just destroyed by Fury that can’t be both Elite. AJ once he disposes of Pulev will Be fighting Fury. Where the Hell has Wilder disappeared to after getting his arse whooping. Take your laptop and Stab yourself in the throat with it. AJ is a Bum because he blocked you from sending him messages

Fury is rated number one because he beat Wlad, and destroyed Wilder, twice really. AJ would have a better argument had he not been destroyed by Ruiz. He has probably fought more big names, but ranking goes by current form more than resume.Otherwise if Holyfield comes back, he's the world number one. In reality Joshua was not destroyed by Ruiz Junior 'Beaten, but not destroyed'. Joshua in a underwhelming fight did shut Ruiz out in the rematch, I don't even think Ruiz Junior won a single round 'Maybe 1 round, that is about it'. Tyson Fury did not destroy Wilder twice, he was knocked down twice in the first fight 'And suffered heavy trauma in the 12 th, which probably still effects him today'. But of course? Tyson Fury won the rematch, conclusively. But once again lets 'Keep this real'. Tyson Fury is walking about as if he sparked Wilder out or beat him into submission 'And he is completely high off it'. Deontay Wilder was still fighting back at the time of the stoppage 'Tyson Fury knows this, and so do his hardcore fans'. I understand from a empathetic perspective why the fight was stopped 'But Deontay Wilder was not some cub, that needed to be saved for another day. Wilder was the 5 year reigning WBC heavyweight Champion of the world, and should of been allowed to go out on his shield 'You do not take a puncher out of a fight, if he is still fighting back'. There seems to be a new campaign, to convince everyone that Tyson Fury is some sort of genetic monster who destroys everything he touches 'I am convince social engineering experts work within the media, and just for the fun of it 'Play with people's minds in sport'. Tyson Fury has won two fights at elite level 'He bamboozled Kiltschko, where as Anthony Joshua retired Wladimir Kiltschko. When Kiltschko fought Joshua, Kiltshcko left it all in the ring 'The fight was reminiscent of a coronation' competitive athletes know when they are fully beaten, and Kiltschko knew Joshua beat him 'Where as in his mind? He only lost to Tyson Fury, there is a psychological difference'. The bottom line is? Tyson Fury is held to a lower standard than Anthony Joshua and is playing champion on medium mode 'And he does not have a deep extensive resume'.

Joshua has beaten 2 champions. Martin and Ruiz and has consistently fought top 10 fighters since he hit the top. These threads and the AJ spite must be aimed at those who over do the Joshua hype cuz AJ has done plenty and done well in a short space of time. Giving him zero credit is just bitter spite by sad fux or just by ppl who wanna get a rise out of AJ fans. And Parker. People forget that was a legitimate unification bout with a guy ranked 3 (behind Wilder) almost across the board. Even the other belt came against Wlad. Hardly worth overlooking. Posters on here claim Wlad was inactive like he retired and decided to come back for another payday. BS. He had been stalled by Fury and had to take another route. Wlad's a true champion. You can bet he left nothing to chance in readying himself for the Fury rematch. That's what Champions do. Joshua fought the Wlad that was trying to avenge his loss to Fury.