Loma basically just skipped to the endgame portion of a contenders professional career. You should be praising Bob Arum 1st and foremost for that because the fast-track wouldn't of happened otherwise.
And I am a Loma fan who defended him a lot after Teo loss but I think your premise is a bit off. You are forgetting the commercial side of it.
lol I see you are too emotional attached to getting teh answer you want to hear just the way you want to hear it.
Truth is many experts do not count those as amatuer fights. They followed more Pro rules than amatuers rules.
I told you if you want to call them amateur bouts go ahead, I will not because they are not.
I’m not emotionally attached whatsoever.
Fact remains you were WRONG and they are amateur contests.
So you agree they are amateur contests?
lol I see you are too emotional attached to getting teh answer you want to hear just the way you want to hear it.
Truth is many experts do not count those as amatuer fights. They followed more Pro rules than amatuers rules.
I told you if you want to call them amateur bouts go ahead, I will not because they are not.
Why cant his resume be questioned?? fighters with much better resumes get trashed here religiously..it is what it is..
I’m not saying you can’t, I’m pointing out you’d be stupid to do so.
what? lol
I never said it was I said his record really is more like 21 than 16 cause those WSB fights. Those officially are amateur fights cause WSB says so but the rules they followed etc was pros.
So I wont deny you if you want to say they are amateur figths and not count them but I also wont deny someone who wants to count them as pro fights.
21 or 16 fights loma has made great accomplishments regardsless
for me I count them as pro fights cause they are .
So you agree they are amateur contests?
So it wasn’t a pro fight in the WSB?
what? lol
I never said it was I said his record really is more like 21 than 16 cause those WSB fights. Those officially are amateur fights cause WSB says so but the rules they followed etc was pros.
So I wont deny you if you want to say they are amateur figths and not count them but I also wont deny someone who wants to count them as pro fights.
21 or 16 fights loma has made great accomplishments regardsless
for me I count them as pro fights cause they are .
Dmitry Bivol, Guillermo Rigondeaux & Oleksandr Usyk
Usyk is the only guy in the same ballpark.
Bivol as talented as he is hasn’t really beat anyone yet.
Aside from the Donaire win, Rigo never got the opportunities he should have.
It wasn’t strictly under professional rules. As I said they aren’t even using pro gloves.
I used to regularly watch the WSB it was always very amateurish, was far more about point scoring.
but they used the 10 point must system.
was under professional rules, and that 1 more round than usual 4 rounders pros do when they start out.
It wasn’t strictly under professional rules. As I said they aren’t even using pro gloves.
I used to regularly watch the WSB it was always very amateurish, was far more about point scoring.
They ain’t professional fights man.
They box for 5 rounds wearing amateur style 12 oz gloves.
was under professional rules, and that 1 more round than usual 4 rounders pros do when they start out.
not 16 fights, more like 21 pro fights you gotta count those wbbss pro bouts or whatever.
But lomachenko is a decent fighter and accomplished great things for himself, however his not as great as alot try to rank him and he also isnt as bad as alot of people try to dismiss him as.
They ain’t professional fights man.
They box for 5 rounds wearing amateur style 12 oz gloves.
not 16 fights, more like 21 pro fights you gotta count those wbbss pro bouts or whatever.
But lomachenko is a decent fighter and accomplished great things for himself, however his not as great as alot try to rank him and he also isnt as bad as alot of people try to dismiss him as.
come on dude. Loma lost clearly and fairly. Give Teo his credit. I would ask that you look at Loma's face regarding damage. Also, the body attack was long and sustained. Those shots count as well.
He gave Teo the cut with a headbutt dude. No way you didn't see that.
Loma gave up the belt rather than fight Haney. You can't put that on Haney.
If you are ok with Loma avoiding Haney then its incredibly hypocritical to find fault with Tank for not fighting Loma. The world doesn't revolve around what Loma wants. He makes people wait and he is made to wait.
No, I don't argue that he won. Like I said, he chose the wrong strategy and he lost fair and square. One could probably make a case for a draw but Teo did deserve to win because he put in the work and Loma did not. What I disagree with is that Teo BEAT him. Semantics, but you know what I mean
Not true. He had 6 quasi pro fights as part of the WIBA (or something like that) that weren't counted against his record. These were fights without headgear, against pros, with a 10 point must system.
This is the kind of thing you need to point out. The way you frame this is to make it seem like Loma is a young fighter that just decided to jump up to top comp from the go without ever fighting.
In reality, he had the equivalent of 6 pro fights before his official debut at 25 years old.
The WSB is an AIBA tournament/league.
AIBA- AMATEUR International Boxing Association.
They are hybrid type rules that allow AMATEUR boxers to compete professionally but they still retain their AMATEUR status.
They were not professional fights so just stop with the BS...
Loma has had 16 professional fights, 15 of them have been world title fights. It’s unprecedented in boxing history, just deal with it...