This is the standard way of fixing a fight: 2 Judges and the ref.
The ref allows one fighter to break the rules and in other ways favors that one fighter. This ref allowed Lopez to repeatedly push Loma away which is illegal.
And the 2 out of 3 judges' scoring was laughable. Lopez won but it was 7-5.
Nobody else seems to be talking about the ref. But this is the classic way of fixing a fight: Unless a KO, the ref and 2 judges make it very difficult for one fighter to win.
Of course, Loma is no stranger to corrupt refs and scoring. His previous "loss" to Salido was outrageous given the many deliberate low blows and dubious scoring .
Here Lopez won, but not by much due to Loma's own inaction for half the fight. But he wasn't gonna win w.o. a KO anyway given Lederman and the other one's bias.
Nothing changes.
You Lima fanboys are the most disgusting fans in the world dude was the A side the house fighter even though Lopez is with top rank as well Loma and his team put in the contract that they didn’t need a rematch clause because they were share they were going to school but that didn’t happen now you guys are calling a fix just stop BS he lost fair and square it happens with all the greats through out history they lose and come back better but stop making excuses for Loma losing before the fight everybody and their momma was predicting Loma to paint a masterpiece on Lopez kid was an 4 to 1 underdog how the hell the fix was in just stop with the excuses give the kid his credit for out boxing the so called matrix
This. The sour grapes need to stop, it’s desperate and pathetic. These ****ers are beginning to sound worse than the Wilder lot with the costume and the gloves.
They’re so worried about this ‘disrespect’ that Loma’s getting from people merely pointing out that he clearly lost while not realising the disrespect they’re showing to Lopez by trying to take away from a great performance.
You Lima fanboys are the most disgusting fans in the world dude was the A side the house fighter even though Lopez is with top rank as well Loma and his team put in the contract that they didn’t need a rematch clause because they were share they were going to school but that didn’t happen now you guys are calling a fix just stop BS he lost fair and square it happens with all the greats through out history they lose and come back better but stop making excuses for Loma losing before the fight everybody and their momma was predicting Loma to paint a masterpiece on Lopez kid was an 4 to 1 underdog how the hell the fix was in just stop with the excuses give the kid his credit for out boxing the so called matrix
That's a great and accurate summary of this fight.
It may speak volumes about Lopez nature that he immediately says no rematch. period.
Why not say, "Sure if money is good, I'll do it again."
He looked a bit shook when Loma came at him with fast combos. Mostly then grabbed or pushed him away.
They should do it again, but not likely.
I’m kinda getting the vibe there’s just a lot of hate or bias against loma because he’s “arrogant”.
Which I’ve never noticed or would be bothered by.
The ref told López towards the end of the fight “don’t make me take a point”
But never once gave him a warning. There was hardly any action and when ever there was López stopped it.
That's a great and accurate summary of this fight.
It may speak volumes about Lopez nature that he immediately says no rematch. period.
Why not say, "Sure if money is good, I'll do it again."
He looked a bit shook when Loma came at him with fast combos. Mostly then grabbed or pushed him away.
They should do it again, but not likely.
Agreed. Did you catch Lopez complaining to ref when Loma was hitting him with free hand after Lopez grabbed one arm several times. That's completely legal for the one whose arm was grabbed.
This was no beat down. Lopez was scared or nonplussed at times when Loma went on offense.
Loma lost more than Lopez beat him down. Loma could win a rematch if honest judges and ref. Prob won't happen.
The ref told López towards the end of the fight “don’t make me take a point”
But never once gave him a warning. There was hardly any action and when ever there was López stopped it.
Well those saying how great Lopez's first 6 rds, seem not to know that Loma took nearly all on his gloves or parried them.
First 6 rds were rather laxative by both.
Was Loma in on the fix becaue he did nothing for the first 5 rds then did little to nothing rds 6-7.
He clearly tried for KO in 2nd half. Almost getting Koed himself in desperate 12th rd.
Wrong strategy and in the word of "President" G Bush, he misunderestimated Lopez.
Yup, all 3 judges had it 7-0, so did I at home. And after rewatching it last night on the replay, none of those 7 rounds were close, at all. 7 very easy rounds to score for Lopez.
People want to give Loma the 2nd, watch it again, Loma landed a nice straight left in the middle of the round and then a 3 punch combo in the last 10 seconds, that is all he landed the entire round! The other 2 minutes and 55 seconds was all Lopez walking him down, taking scoring with body shots and generally stalking a hapless Loma. Not a close round, Lopez won it.
8 and 9 were both rounds that could have gone either way. I initially scored the 8th for Lopez and 9th for Loma, on send viewing I'd reverse that. 10 and 11 were clear Loma rounds, but Lopez had his moments in each one too. The 12th was a brutal beat down by Lopez, wow! This adjusted card for me would make my card 117-111 and all rounds exactly the same as the judge that scored it 117-111.
That’s the thing, those still in shock trying to find rounds to give to Loma are forgetting how close and competitive 8 & 9 were...two of the four rounds I scored for Loma could’ve easily gone the other way. It was a clear and comfortable win, both 116-112 and 117-111 cards were fine.
Thos all too much and laughable. No matter what Lomo LOST FAIR AND SQUARE. Anybody who thinks anything different obviously dont know boxing. He was a defeated man from round 1 with own lack of activity.
The pushing and holding was ridiculous.
Loma can blame himself the same way Lara can be canelo, but once loma got started the grabbing and pushing definitely hurt
Score cards laughable
Agreed. Did you catch Lopez complaining to ref when Loma was hitting him with free hand after Lopez grabbed one arm several times. That's completely legal for the one whose arm was grabbed.
This was no beat down. Lopez was scared or nonplussed at times when Loma went on offense.
Loma lost more than Lopez beat him down. Loma could win a rematch if honest judges and ref. Prob won't happen.
This is the standard way of fixing a fight: 2 Judges and the ref.
The ref allows one fighter to break the rules and in other ways favors that one fighter. This ref allowed Lopez to repeatedly push Loma away which is illegal.
And the 2 out of 3 judges' scoring was laughable. Lopez won but it was 7-5.
Nobody else seems to be talking about the ref. But this is the classic way of fixing a fight: Unless a KO, the ref and 2 judges make it very difficult for one fighter to win.
Of course, Loma is no stranger to corrupt refs and scoring. His previous "loss" to Salido was outrageous given the many deliberate low blows and dubious scoring .
Here Lopez won, but not by much due to Loma's own inaction for half the fight. But he wasn't gonna win w.o. a KO anyway given Lederman and the other one's bias.
Nothing changes.
The pushing and holding was ridiculous.
Loma can blame himself the same way Lara can be canelo, but once loma got started the grabbing and pushing definitely hurt
Score cards laughable
I wouldn't be shocked. Pretty sure Loma signed a 5 year contract back in 2015. Haven't heard anything about a renewal or resigning.
Plus, why would Top Rank not want the younger, hispanic nationality, and AMERICAN fighter to be a big name?
But this takes away from Teo's win. He did good and deserved the V that night, regardless.
The only way to score round 2 for Loma is to not watch the round, and only watch the 2 highlights they showed in between the 2nd and 3rd round. The announcers and broadcast team clearly wanted Loma to win.
Even though Ward was correctly pointing out Lopez's dominance to the body and how he was using his jab to control the fight, he would then give a round to Loma where Loma did almost nothing.
This was a 116-112 to 118-110 fight. 115-113 is just as bad and maybe worse than 119-109.
Yeah I agree totally..
Just watched it for the fist time. Your scoring is about the same as mine. The second round Lopez won no question. Lopez was just too much for Lomachenko in that fight. He was too big, too strong, too fast and too smart.
The only way to score round 2 for Loma is to not watch the round, and only watch the 2 highlights they showed in between the 2nd and 3rd round. The announcers and broadcast team clearly wanted Loma to win.
Even though Ward was correctly pointing out Lopez's dominance to the body and how he was using his jab to control the fight, he would then give a round to Loma where Loma did almost nothing.
This was a 116-112 to 118-110 fight. 115-113 is just as bad and maybe worse than 119-109.
Someone should make a gif or short vid of all the times Lopez pushed Loma away. It's as illegal as a low blow. And no peep from judge.
Lopez won, but it was close and mostly due to Loma's inaction for too long.
In rds 8-11, at times when Loma went at him with flurries, Lopez looked scared and either held or pushed him off.
I think with a better strategy, Loma could win but only if there were honest 3 judges and ref.
Good luck with that in boxing.