what makes them so good, they seem to be on a roll recently. it seems like they came out of nowhere and have been doing amazingly well
are their training programs better, are they simply touger then western boxers... What is it
They also seem to be conditioned much better as well
Honestly it could be cultural. I'm a big basketball guy and in the U.S we are obsessed with athletics and being flashy, with basketball and boxing it seems like European pros tend to focus more on skills.
Kobe voiced that as far as basketball goes and for the most part our Olympic and amateur programs have not been very consistent compared to other countries.
Just my take from what I've noticed
what makes them so good, they seem to be on a roll recently. it seems like they came out of nowhere and have been doing amazingly well
are their training programs better, are they simply touger then western boxers... What is it
They also seem to be conditioned much better as well
I dont know what your definition of "good and "amazing" is. The fact that there is only 1 eastern european world champion(Mairis Breidis) in boxing when there are 300 million slavic people says it all. There are currently more world champion from nicaragua LMAO. Whose population is only 6.5 million compared to eastern europes 300 million.
Eastern Europeans are very mediocre at best in boxing.
It’s not a contest
And you only named a few of the African American greats lol
TS is a race baiter it’s beyond me why he hasn’t been banned yet.
Very true I could have mentioned many more guys like:
Ezzard Charles, Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Larry Holmes, Riddick Bowe, Pernell Whitaker, Shane Mosley, Archie Moore,
It’s not a contest
And you only named a few of the African American greats lol
TS is a race baiter it’s beyond me why he hasn’t been banned yet.
Coming from the king of race baiting himself. My thread actually never started as such only responding to race baiters
This bum just said that eastern europeans can compete with African American boxers�� Lets go ahead and compare the greatest Eastern European Boxers of all time against the greatest African American boxers of all time.
Also the African American population is only 45 million compared to the 290 million eastern european population
Greatest Eastern European boxers:
Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Lomachenko, Usyk, Dariusz Michalczewski, Sergey Kovalev, Kosta Tszyu(half korean), GGG(half korean), Alexander Povetkin, Sergey Kovalev and Nikolai Valuev.
Greatest African American boxers:
Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Mike Tyson, Marvin Hagler, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard, Bernard Hopkins, Evander Holyfield and George Foreman.
Doesn't seem much of a contest:)
Soviet boxers couldnt go pro until 90s and E.Europeans still dominate more combat sports than A.Americans
Doesn't seem much of a contest:)
Agreed when going by your lists.
But to be fair, you would have to exclusively look at the period following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Before that, Soviet boxers were simply not allowed to participate in pro boxing. So a hypothetical Soviet GOAT living during the Soviet reign would not have had an opportunity to compete against Ali etc.
There is no such thing as tough in general you idiot. You will find tough people in every corner of the world. Once again your little brain cant think. Khabib is dagestani which is NO EASTERN EUROPEAN. Also they dont dominate MMA or any other combat sports for that matter.
They can only compete with A. Americans in your fantasy. In the rings magazine there are only 2 eastern european fighters. Usyk and Lomachenko.
You know very well that GGG is only half E.E. And Beterbiev is not eastern european to begin with. There are 2 E.E and A.A on the ring magazine pound for pound list. So African American are better per capita. Since
there are only 45 million against 290 E.E.
I never said they all had to be Slavic. They still fall under the post-soviet training systems and schools that makes elite fighters. Khabib and Beterbiev see themselves as Russian
This bum just said that eastern europeans can compete with African American boxers Lets go ahead and compare the greatest Eastern European Boxers of all time against the greatest African American boxers of all time.
Also the African American population is only 45 million compared to the 290 million eastern european population
Greatest Eastern European boxers:
Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Lomachenko, Usyk, Dariusz Michalczewski, Sergey Kovalev, Kosta Tszyu(half korean), GGG(half korean), Alexander Povetkin, Sergey Kovalev and Nikolai Valuev.
Greatest African American boxers:
Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Mike Tyson, Marvin Hagler, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard, Bernard Hopkins, Evander Holyfield and George Foreman.
Doesn't seem much of a contest:)
Eastern Europeans tend to be tougher than African Americans in general though, the climate and hardships they face (war torn enviroments like Serbia and Croatia) Siberia etc. make the African American hoods look like luxury
E.Europeans also tend to dominate other combat sports like MMA, (Fedor and Khabib) the greatest wrestler of all time in Karelin....Judo, Sambo etc. etc. and yet they can still compete with A. Americans in boxing
in the Ring's top 10 p4p list there are 4 Eastern Euros listed and only 2 A.Americans
There is no such thing as tough in general you idiot. You will find tough people in every corner of the world. Once again your little brain cant think. Khabib is dagestani which is NO EASTERN EUROPEAN. Also they dont dominate MMA or any other combat sports for that matter.
They can only compete with A. Americans in your fantasy. In the rings magazine there are only 2 eastern european fighters. Usyk and Lomachenko.
You know very well that GGG is only half E.E. And Beterbiev is not eastern european to begin with. There are 2 E.E and A.A on the ring magazine pound for pound list. So African American are better per capita. Since
there are only 45 million against 290 E.E.
umm....no
Usyk was the first ever unified cruiserweight champion
Wladimir Klitschko ran the HW division for a decade
Breidis, Latvian, is the top cruiserweight in the world
Beterbiev, Bivol are dominating the light heavyweight division at the moment.
Golovkin still has a few belts at Middleweight
Eastern Euro's don't mess with the lower weight classes
Lmao you are so stupid. There are only 2 eastern european world Champions😂 Same amount as Nicaragua. Nicaragua population 6.5 million vs E.E population of 290 million! Klitschko ran the weakest heavyweight division in history.
umm....Yes
GGG is not eastern european. He is mixed korean and russian. Also Beterbiev is not eastern european as he is an ethnic Chechen. They are not the same as russians. They are western asian. Basically turks who speak a «russian» like language.
Bivol again is not ethnic eastern european like Beterbiev and GGG. « Bivol was born in Soviet Kyrgyzstan to a Moldovan father and an ethnic Korean mother». He is also half korean. He looks nothing like a 100% eastern european. The only eastern europeans are Usyk and Breidis.
There are currently two eastern europeans Champions:
Artem Dalakian and Breidis.
No they dont. You know that very well. Also there are many types of «black».
Lets look at african americans. There are about 45 million african americans. There are 290 million eastern europeans. In others words there are 6 times more eastern europeans than African Americans.
Yet there are 7 current African Americans Champions while only 2 eastern european😂😂😂
Infact there are more Japanese Champions than eastern european. Should I make a thread why Japanese are so good at Boxing?
Eastern Europeans tend to be tougher than African Americans in general though, the climate and hardships they face (war torn enviroments like Serbia and Croatia) Siberia etc. make the African American hoods look like luxury
E.Europeans also tend to dominate other combat sports like MMA, (Fedor and Khabib) the greatest wrestler of all time in Karelin....Judo, Sambo etc. etc. and yet they can still compete with A. Americans in boxing
in the Ring's top 10 p4p list there are 4 Eastern Euros listed and only 2 A.Americans
Per capita they outproduce greater fighters than Blacks
No they dont. You know that very well. Also there are many types of «black».
Lets look at african americans. There are about 45 million african americans. There are 290 million eastern europeans. In others words there are 6 times more eastern europeans than African Americans.
Yet there are 7 current African Americans Champions while only 2 eastern european😂😂😂
Infact there are more Japanese Champions than eastern european. Should I make a thread why Japanese are so good at Boxing?
There are only 2 ethnic eastern european world champions. That is really poor for a region of 250+ million people were Boxing is a MAJOR SPORT.
umm....no
Usyk was the first ever unified cruiserweight champion
Wladimir Klitschko ran the HW division for a decade
Breidis, Latvian, is the top cruiserweight in the world
Beterbiev, Bivol are dominating the light heavyweight division at the moment.
Golovkin still has a few belts at Middleweight
Eastern Euro's don't mess with the lower weight classes
There are only 2 ethnic eastern european world champions. That is really poor for a region of 250+ million people were Boxing is a MAJOR SPORT.
Per capita they outproduce greater fighters than Blacks
Most fighters that come out of Central Africa are teak tough but just lack skill due to not having the coaching set ups
You rarely see a Ghanaian with a glass chin but loads of AA's are packing fragile glass.
Ghana is smaller than Texas and Nigeria is about as big as Texas. The Africans we see make it over to the states are the best of the best. In the US we have a variety plus the great coaching/trainers/programs. It’s numbers dude. They don’t lie.
Jamaica has 2.5million people but produce the fastest sprinters men and women out of 7billion in the world. It’s because they dedicate insane per capita towards track and field. And trust me they are living first world compared to Most Africans.