Can we knock this off already? Not a single fighter is willing to literally be killed in the ring for a boxing match. Yes I know they gotta act tough and all that, but come on, this is played out.
Terrible terrible thread. No man can ever speak for any other man, no fighter can speak for any fighter.
Many fighters are willing to die and those that are trained properly understand it’s a high possibility every time you box.
1 punch and you land funny is all it takes.
Terrible thread.
i remember when tim bradley told manny pacquaio he would rather die than lose.
in the fight, he was stood around there having a little picnic at times...just let manny pacquaio dominate him and did nothing in return (i'm talking about the second one).
That phrase no longer applies to the current crop of multimillionaire fighters, promoters and fans who have no desire for that. Translated into modern English, it means...I won't openly indicate to the referee or my corner to stop the fight. I'll try not to quit on my stool.
incredible ignorance in this post. no boxer who fully understands the risk of being beaten to death or into a hugely depleted state such as magomed abdusalamov will accept this:
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this is a 39 year old man. he's a burden to his wife. an incredible burden. she has to feed, bathe him, clean up his ****. he can't stand up, do much other than look around and he cannot talk. no sport is worth this, and shame on anyone who thinks it is. athletes who say they are "willing to die in the ring" are ignorant and it's sad to hear.
thank god that deaths and serious injuries in boxing are relatively rare. fighters don't owe you, steve smoger, or any other bloodhound a goddamn thing. they're med with families and no sport or feeling a certain way about said sport is worth compromising that.,
get in, get your money as easily as you can, and get out. how much money did you donate to abdusalamov's family? how often do you clean his **** out of his diapers?
What happened to him was a tragedy but why take it so personally? And what does a fight where a guy should have been waved off, have to do with a fighter willing to leave it all in the ring?
The reality is I'm of the opinion that grown men make informed decisions and take the risks they want to take. Period. I'm not for watering down sports, especially combat sports for the sake of safety. The responsibility is to educate athletes not make decisions for them. In American football, I think all the rule changes in the name of safety that have changed the game are a travesty. These people make a lot of money and many of them enjoy fantastic lives before and after the game. Are they problem free? No human is. Let dudes spear a defenseless QB or wide out. I believe in letting men play sports or compete accepting risks they are willing to accept.
So you can rant about his situation, a true tragedy, all day. Many of us fight fans will still cheer on the violence in the ring, it's what many of us love, aside from things like defensive mastery, a bit of showboating, etc.
Coming from you? Have you ever laced up a pair of gloves. I would beat the living **** outta you in a boxing match. Have you ever fought at amateur level in boxing? Well there we go. Atleast we know who can "relate more to men with competitive spirits" between ME and YOU. P-U-S-S-Y.
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I definitely have. I'm in the bay area and actually looking for places opening back up, can't wait to be able to do more than shadow box etc.
Love that you say that to a guy you've never met. I feel the same way about myself. I'd rather be around cats like this in the gym, than people like TS who sound like that ride or die attitude turns them away.
I boxed a long time when I was younger and I know what they mean when they say that because I had and still have that same mindset as well.
Would I want to die in the ring? No. Would I want to permanently messed up for life or even an extended period of time? No.
Only an absolute moron would choose that option.
But I know me. And I know that when I get inside the ring that it is almost a different realm you enter. You don't think about your family, your future, your past or anybody. You only focus in on your opponent because it is what you are conditioned to do. That's what is meant when you hear people say they are locked in.
All decisions I ever made while inside the ring when competing were not of sound mind and judgement when compared to my everyday normal self. It is why a boxer will confide in his corner (away from the cameras and in private) to look out for his best interest even if that means stopping the fight.
Great breakdown.
I boxed a long time when I was younger and I know what they mean when they say that because I had and still have that same mindset as well.
Would I want to die in the ring? No. Would I want to permanently messed up for life or even an extended period of time? No.
Only an absolute moron would choose that option.
But I know me. And I know that when I get inside the ring that it is almost a different realm you enter. You don't think about your family, your future, your past or anybody. You only focus in on your opponent because it is what you are conditioned to do. That's what is meant when you hear people say they are locked in.
All decisions I ever made while inside the ring when competing were not of sound mind and judgement when compared to my everyday normal self. It is why a boxer will confide in his corner (away from the cameras and in private) to look out for his best interest even if that means stopping the fight.
Imagine taking the beating Margo took with a broken orbital bone from rd 4 or w/e it was. Brook and Matthysse feel that and they start to think about their future “oh sht, my eye feels fuked up, I don’t wanna go blind, better quit”. Going blind seemed to not even cross Margarito’s mind as he came forward and got lit up some more to the eye for about 8 more rounds.
Willing has nothing to do with “wanting”. See those fighter’s with both eyes closed or torn shoulder’s or likely suffering excruciating brain swelling who refuse to just look at the ref and wave it off themselves? Plenty of fighter’s that wont stop till you make them inoperable.
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If these guys didn't have corner men.
Not Ali.... He wanted to quit. Frazier was ready to die
Can we knock this off already? Not a single fighter is willing to literally be killed in the ring for a boxing match. Yes I know they gotta act tough and all that, but come on, this is played out.
Lies....Some mean that shyt. And I think it's foolish to think otherwise.
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If these guys didn't have corner men.
A Ignorant and Selfish thing to say especially if you have a Wife and Children!
RIP Patrick Day, Maxim Dadashev, Hugo Santillan and others who actually did lose their Lives or Livelihood in a boxing ring :nonono:
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