Where does Boxing rank as far as in popularity in American sports ?

I’m from Minnesota and I’d say you can shut your wh0re mouth right up. Haha but seriously this is probably a hard question to truly answer since the US is so big. MMA is far more popular up here but when I lived in South Texas I had plenty of Hispanic friends that actually loved boxing, and not just the Canelo’s but the entire sport. The NHL was so popular you guys let us up and take your team.

NHL is not ahead of combat sports. It’s not good on TV. It’s a very expensive sport. Most of the country doesn’t even play it. Maybe 15 years ago when it was still on ESPN but not now. Leaving ESPN and going to NBCSports was a bad decision. Great sport to watch live though. I’m from Minnesota and I’d say you can shut your wh0re mouth right up. Haha but seriously this is probably a hard question to truly answer since the US is so big. MMA is far more popular up here but when I lived in South Texas I had plenty of Hispanic friends that actually loved boxing, and not just the Canelo’s but the entire sport.

I have just done a quick search 'In america there are almost 4000 boxing gyms'. What is BJJ? did you also read the gym titles and what they specialize in. i just did a maps search for boxing gyms and muy thai and bjj also came up along with it bc they offer boxing. most of these places are hybrid which is what i alluded to in my last response. purely solely boxing gyms just arent a thing anymore.

there are over 150+ UFC gyms that teach MMA alone in the US and they offer an array of Muy Thai, BJJ and Boxing from expert coaches. I live around 20 gyms that specialize in a form of MMA within a 5-10m radius. theres only 4 boxing gyms in my entire city. its just not accessible. and most of them see a dude on a bag for 20min and try to get him to spar a high ranked prospect. I have just done a quick search 'In america there are almost 4000 boxing gyms'. What is BJJ?

Mixed Martial Arts is not more accessible 'What is a mixed Martial arts gym?' Mixed Martial Arts comes under a giant umbrella. Boxing fights are still on non-pay television. The points you are now making are irrelevant. there are over 150+ UFC gyms that teach MMA alone in the US and they offer an array of Muy Thai, BJJ and Boxing from expert coaches. I live around 20 gyms that specialize in a form of MMA within a 5-10m radius. theres only 4 boxing gyms in my entire city. its just not accessible. and most of them see a dude on a bag for 20min and try to get him to spar a high ranked prospect.

nope money changed alot of that. MMA is more accessible to people and there's more MMA gyms than boxing gyms bc of popularity and exposure. when boxing moved to a more exclusive paid audience they killed the appeal they had. we used to watch fights on network tv and put 100,000 in stadiums for fights. we just dont anymore. Mixed Martial Arts is not more accessible 'What is a mixed Martial arts gym?' Mixed Martial Arts comes under a giant umbrella. Boxing fights are still on non-pay television. Those points are irrelevant.

America is still a dominant force in boxing. Society has changed 'People don't have to fight any more'. Education is better, and there are safer sports. The term 'The winner takes it all' applies more to boxing, than other sports. You can sit on a bench in basketball, and still get paid 'It is a entirely different lifestyle and environment in boxing'. At no point in history have kids in mass, all wanted to be boxers 'It has always just been down to a elite few, who where willing to pursue the sport through all of its brutality'. I don't entirely view boxing as a sport, it is still prize fighting. Sports are activities such as: The original Olympic sports, team-sports and motor racing etc nope money changed alot of that. MMA is more accessible to people and there's more MMA gyms than boxing gyms bc of popularity and exposure. when boxing moved to a more exclusive paid audience they killed the appeal they had. we used to watch fights on network tv and put 100,000 in stadiums for fights. we just dont anymore.

we produced more quality boxers in the USA back then bc you had more inspiration bc one guy was the most populate athlete in the country if not the world. we dont now. ask anyone to name a list of 5 boxers that ever lived, everyone of them would name ali. America is still a dominant force in boxing. Society has changed 'People don't have to fight any more'. Education is better, and there are safer sports. The term 'The winner takes it all' applies more to boxing, than other sports. You can sit on a bench in basketball, and still get paid 'It is a entirely different lifestyle and environment in boxing'. At no point in history have kids in mass, all wanted to be boxers 'It has always just been down to a elite few, who where willing to pursue the sport through all of its brutality'. I don't entirely view boxing as a sport, it is still prize fighting. Sports are activities such as: The original Olympic sports, team-sports and motor racing etc

A lot of kids admired Muhammad Ali, but not everyone wanted to be a boxer 'Because most kids move away from violence' Only certain kids back then? Pursued boxing, and it is still the same today. Boxing essentially is not a sport, it is a form of competitive violence. All these team sports you speak of? Where created to entertain the masses 'I refer to most team sports, as lemming sports'. we produced more quality boxers in the USA back then bc you had more inspiration bc one guy was the most populate athlete in the country if not the world. we dont now. ask anyone to name a list of 5 boxers that ever lived, everyone of them would name ali.

which is why you had athletes like michael jordan who become cultural phenomenons to take away from that. jordan was the face of US sports for nearly a decade as boxing became more of niche sport. but when Ali was HW champ he inspired a generation of golden era of fighters. kids wanted to be ali. A lot of kids admired Muhammad Ali, but not everyone wanted to be a boxer 'Because most kids move away from violence' Only certain kids back then? Pursued boxing, and it is still the same today. Boxing essentially is not a sport, it is a form of competitive violence. All these team sports you speak of? Where created to entertain the masses 'I refer to most team sports, as lemming sports'. Lemmings all following their tribe week in week out, it is social engineering.

Kids did not pick Mike Tyson 'Because only certain kids, have a appetite for violence'. It has nothing to do with how popular basketball, baseball or NFL is 'Only certain people have a appetite for violence' And it has always been this way throughout history. Not everyone is drawn towards Violence youbeight. which is why you had athletes like michael jordan who become cultural phenomenons to take away from that. jordan was the face of US sports for nearly a decade as boxing became more of niche sport. but when Ali was HW champ he inspired a generation of golden era of fighters. kids wanted to be ali.

Is Boxing still in the top 5 most popular sports in America ? What time capsule have you crawled out of? Boxing hasn't been considered a major sport in the US since like the 80s. Baseball, basketball, american football, hockey, and tennis are all more popular. Boxing is a niche sport like most forms of racing, and other combat sports. The ever embarrassing laughing stock of a league MLS probably gets far more attention than boxing but as a futbol snob I won't watch MLS as a matter of principle.

I wasnt born in the era of looking up to Ali. i was born in the era of looking up Mike Tyson and yeah outside of tyson and michael jordan it was hard to find kids who wanted to pick tyson. but in ali era nfl wasnt as popular. black people in baseball wasnt that robust and nba didnt really take off bc you had games on tape delay still. in Ali time you have a ton of black kids who wanted to be him and went to boxing gyms. thats what ultimately lead to the golden age of USA boxing. cant get there if kids werent inspired. before ali you had very little motivation from guys like joe louis. Ali was different. Kids did not pick Mike Tyson 'Because only certain kids, have a appetite for violence'. It has nothing to do with how popular basketball, baseball or NFL is 'Only certain people have a appetite for violence' And it has always been this way throughout history. Not everyone is drawn towards Violence youbeight.

Kids have never in mass, aspired to become the heavyweight champion of the world 'Kids will know, if they are cut out to fight early on' going back in history it has always been this way. Team sports are more friendly, safe and inclusive 'That is why kids will look up to people like Lebron James'. Note: youbeight did you want to become heavyweight champion as a kid? It is a myth that there was a time in history when kids where all dreaming of becoming heavyweight champion. Boxing is a serious dark sport 'Only a certain type of child would of been pursing such a sport etc'. Muhammad Ali did not inspire a lot of kids, to become heavyweight champion 'But he did inspire them in many other area's'. Muhammad Ali inspired a select few in regards to boxing 'Roy Jones Junior has explained 'That when he first watched Muhammad Ali beat Joe Frazier in their second fight? That was the moment which inspired him to take up boxing'. I wasnt born in the era of looking up to Ali. i was born in the era of looking up Mike Tyson and yeah outside of tyson and michael jordan it was hard to find kids who wanted to pick tyson. but in ali era nfl wasnt as popular. black people in baseball wasnt that robust and nba didnt really take off bc you had games on tape delay still. in Ali time you have a ton of black kids who wanted to be him and went to boxing gyms. thats what ultimately lead to the golden age of USA boxing. cant get there if kids werent inspired. before ali you had very little motivation from guys like joe louis. Ali was different.

Muhammad Ali inspired alot of kids to grow up to become HW champ in the USA. especially young black kids. nowadays those kids look up LeBron James and other relevant black athletes that are not fighters. Kids have never in mass, aspired to become the heavyweight champion of the world 'Kids will know, if they are cut out to fight early on' going back in history it has always been this way. Team sports are more friendly, safe and inclusive 'That is why kids will look up to people like Lebron James'. Note: youbeight did you want to become heavyweight champion as a kid? It is a myth that there was a time in history when kids where all dreaming of becoming heavyweight champion. Boxing is a serious dark sport 'Only a certain type of child would of been pursing such a sport etc'. Muhammad Ali did not inspire a lot of kids, to become heavyweight champion 'But he did inspire them in many other area's'. Muhammad Ali inspired a select few in regards to boxing 'Roy Jones Junior has explained 'That when he first watched Muhammad Ali beat Joe Frazier in their second fight? That was the moment which inspired him to take up boxing'.

Kids have never grown up, wanting to be heavyweight champion universally 'Boxing is a sport that requires you to be different'. At no point in human history have children in mass, collectively wanted to become the heavyweight Champion 'Boxing is a brutal activity'. Lets not forget? The term sport was used to describe pursuits and past-times such as Track and Field athletics, which was the only other real global sport pre-1950 along with Boxing etc 'Boxing for 90% of its history was also never described as a sport or leisure activity' Because it is not a leisure activity. The world has changed, society gives people many more opportunities to make a living or propel themselves to stardom and great esteem 'The kids that pursue boxing, have to be different' even from other kids who are also pursuing ambitions in other sports. They have to be different, because the risks on a daily basis are not the same 'Boxing is the hurt game'. Boxing in my opinion? Is doing fine. Muhammad Ali inspired alot of kids to grow up to become HW champ in the USA. especially young black kids. nowadays those kids look up LeBron James and other relevant black athletes that are not fighters.

Funny to me how clearly localized these answers are. Beercules didn't even include motorsport. I'm from the south so the **** do I know, but, seems wrong to me. Not just NASCAR but that is the big one I reckon. Indy500, drag, rock climbing, dirt track, all that **** is super popular. But Outwest says NHL ain't bigger than combat sports. :lol1: I'd say it is but I live near the Florida Rays. We have hockey in the sunshine state so again, the **** do I know. Would be interesting to know more on demographics and such. I don't think eyes, or asses in seats, or how much money the events generate as a sport in total are good indicators of popularity because all the various sports are set up very differently. Motorsports have ****ing massive stadiums. When you look up **** like who has the largest you get **** like "excluding horse and car racing" For example: Wiki list of Sports Stadiums by Capacity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_by_capacity 1) Rungrado 1st of May Stadium 114,000 okay, but Wiki List of sporting venues with a highest attendance of 100,000 or more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sporting_venues_with_a_highest_attendance_of_100,000_or_more#:~:text=The%20largest%20sporting%20venue%20in%20the%20world%2C%20the,seating%20that%20raises%20capacity%20to%20an%20approximate%20400%2C000. 1) Indianapolis Motor Speedway 350,000 With a capacity of 400,000 total. So, I'm sure Motorsports get more asses in seats than anyone else, but, I'm not sure that makes them more popular so much as convenient. I know a lot of folks who go to Daytona every year but don't really follow NASCAR, they just like going to Daytona. So i'm not sure attendance = fans = market penetration. Anyway, I though that was interesting. Up here in the North Midwest id say Hockey is pretty popular. By no means is it as popular as NFL or NBA but most of the schools have a hockey team. Some colleges the biggest sport they have is Hockey. Plus people play on the ice every winter. I think we have like one or two combat gyms where I live. Not a lot of people into boxing. More people prefer MMA.

Funny to me how clearly localized these answers are. Beercules didn't even include motorsport. I'm from the south so the **** do I know, but, seems wrong to me. Not just NASCAR but that is the big one I reckon. Indy500, drag, rock climbing, dirt track, all that **** is super popular. But Outwest says NHL ain't bigger than combat sports. :lol1: I'd say it is but I live near the Florida Rays. We have hockey in the sunshine state so again, the **** do I know. Would be interesting to know more on demographics and such. I don't think eyes, or asses in seats, or how much money the events generate as a sport in total are good indicators of popularity because all the various sports are set up very differently. Motorsports have ****ing massive stadiums. When you look up **** like who has the largest you get **** like "excluding horse and car racing" For example: Wiki list of Sports Stadiums by Capacity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_by_capacity 1) Rungrado 1st of May Stadium 114,000 okay, but Wiki List of sporting venues with a highest attendance of 100,000 or more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sporting_venues_with_a_highest_attendance_of_100,000_or_more#:~:text=The%20largest%20sporting%20venue%20in%20the%20world%2C%20the,seating%20that%20raises%20capacity%20to%20an%20approximate%20400%2C000. 1) Indianapolis Motor Speedway 350,000 With a capacity of 400,000 total. So, I'm sure Motorsports get more asses in seats than anyone else, but, I'm not sure that makes them more popular so much as convenient. I know a lot of folks who go to Daytona every year but don't really follow NASCAR, they just like going to Daytona. So i'm not sure attendance = fans = market penetration. Anyway, I though that was interesting. It is also about demographics 'Working class people really only watch combat sports, and maybe afew team-sports'. Who attends these motor sports events? Most of them are not working class people. Boxing in my opinion is still, a top-5 blue collar sports in america etc.

Good point. It's debatable how you actually measure sports against each other. And boxings biggest events are working on a different model than most sports. Like for example how many folks woulda watched Floyd vs Manny if it was on free TV or basic cable? And how many mfers would pay $100 to watch the Super Bowl or NBA Finals? Those are considerations when measuring sports against each other that bring in revenue differently. Personally I consider it a mix of ratings/sales & my feelings on how much folks talk about the people in specific sports & those sports in general. Good examples, but then the NFL is smart enough (along with every other sport) to not put a $100 paywall around an event. Boxing still living with an outdated model that limits its exposure and puts short term cash ahead of long term growth. Boxing is an incredible sport, yet we limit it to to people who are already hardcore fans.

A lot of casual support for boxing died after Mayweather/Pacquiao finally happened and was a dud.