I keep seeing people mention Wilder as a great win for Fury, but im not seeing why Wilder got hyped in the first place. His list of opponents is filled with tomato cans. He was fighting literal no name scrubs while ducking all of the top contenders. He has beaten just 1 of the top 15 heavyweights in the world. 1. When he got in the ring with Fury, he was exposed as a talentless fraud.
The Tyson Fury GOAT brigade confuses me. Wilder is not a resume building win. Muhammad Ali beat 20 fighters better than Wilder. Lennox lewis beat 15 fighters better than Wilder. Get back at me when Fury beats 5 all-time great fighers.
it seemed like we all were but then at some point that changed and people though he was legit. maybe the ortiz fight? ortiz is definitely a solid fighter but old, out of shape, and off PED's? not really that great and he looked horrible in that fight but besides that i dont really know what happeend. its like trump. he was and is still a joke but people still defend him even though he admitted to killing 200 thousand people with his negligence and lies. at least wilder didnt kill anyone, hes not good enough lol
You do realize that to ignore new data is....unintelligent?
Yes, beating Ortiz twice and then fighting twice the #1 guy erases the whole "when will Wilder fight someone with a pulse" campaign that I was also a part of. He went and challenged the best. I made a thread applauding his decision as soon as the first fight was announced.
Everyone on NSB likes to argue about the best fighting the best and fighters daring to be great and he did exactly that, twice. Now you want to ignore that and still act like he hasn't faced anyone? That's petty and pathetic and unfair to pretty much anyone. If you dont give credit when credit is due then your opinion isn't worth a **** here, and I say that acknowledging you have this silly little persona you like to run with here.
To incriminate oneself, one must fear the punishment of incrimination. I do not fear that consequence because only God will judge me. You call me a nerd in an attempt to belittle me. But you won't grant me an opportunity to prove I'm a man in person. That is fine. I will continue to walk the dirty road until I find a mother f**cker silly enough to dare.
I said there are nerds on here and you shouldn’t bite. You listen to what they say ,reply or you keep it moving. How can you confuse what I said? Listen with the intent to understand instead of reply tough guy.
Name fighters he ducked.
You can't criticize someone's resume if you can't name who he avoided and have some evidence of such.
Stiverne and Ortiz are quality wins, ortiz especially. And his stock goes up because he fought the best in the division twice regardless of outcome.
He avoided Klitschko I’m really not that bothered about showing you the evidence it’s out there but I don’t care enough to show you.lol. He was scheduled to fight Povetkin which admittedly at the time was a big big step up. He never stepped foot in Russia he was in England. The B sample of Povetkin or something along those lines but he was advised to sit tight, he flew back to America immediately. He was sued by Povetkin team to the sum of 2 million which was awarded to Povetkin and contested by wilder blah blah blah
When Wilder chose to fight Fury no one saw Fury as a legit threat. It was a cherry pick gone wrong. He has had over 40 fights and he has 2 credible opponents and one elite fighter in Fury. I have to say Fury is elite because he fought with Klitschko also and he never lay a glove on him and look what he accomplished
Stiverne, January 2015 - top-5 HW https://www.tbrb.org/2015/10/10/13-january-2015/
Ortiz, March 2018 - top-5 HW https://www.tbrb.org/2018/03/14/13-march-2018/
DRAW Fury, December 2018 - top-3 HW
https://www.tbrb.org/2018/12/12/11-december-2018/
LOSS Fury, February 2020 - top-3 HW https://www.tbrb.org/2020/02/19/11-february-2020/
Wilder's fought a lot of top HWs. He hasn't always been successful but I love that he has the balls to fight. So rare in boxing that we see men with balls to fight. Deontay has them. May the Lord bless him in his journey forward cause I think he's about to fight the #1 guy in the division in his next fight. Balls of steel.
I know there are some nerds on this site but what you said was corny. The guy didn’t share the same opinion with you and that’s it and you are here incriminating yourself if you live that life of course
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I keep seeing people mention Wilder as a great win for Fury, but im not seeing why Wilder got hyped in the first place. His list of opponents is filled with tomato cans. He was fighting literal no name scrubs while ducking all of the top contenders. He has beaten just 1 of the top 15 heavyweights in the world. 1. When he got in the ring with Fury, he was exposed as a talentless fraud.
The Tyson Fury GOAT brigade confuses me. Wilder is not a resume building win. Muhammad Ali beat 20 fighters better than Wilder. Lennox lewis beat 15 fighters better than Wilder. Get back at me when Fury beats 5 all-time great fighers.
No one out there worth naming. AJ and Fury get props by default. This is simply a shltty HW era.
He'd get outboxed by most of the current top 15.
As mentioned by someone else, if he wasn't a long standing champion you'd rate his CV reasonably highly, but he just doesn't have the CV for a guy with this title background.
That's partly on Wilder but a huge amount of blame falls on the WBC.
Their approach to mandatories is shocking.
Well Gerald Washington was up 4-0 (admittedly after a layoff and hand injury for Wilder) before the KO. So yeah I mean he isn't boxing anyone. It just isn't his style. His style is all about setting up for the 1 big right hand and it's a good strategy because absent his last fight, he has had great stamina for a HW.
I don't think his resume is toooo terrible and some of the fights that fell through weren't entirely his fault I think. Povetkin at least comes to mind. I'd still pick Wilder to KO anyone at HW besides Fury and he still has a puncher's chance there too imo.
I guess we will see what Wilder is over the next few years. I hope we get to see him in with AJ and Whyte (if anyone still thinks Whyte takes him, that is).
Thank you, how is Fury the greatest thing since ice coffee cuz he beat a one dimensional fighter with one great weapon?
Let’s see him beat Wilder again without dirty fighting, beat AJ 2x, beat Luis Ortiz if he’s still around, beat Povetkin, beat Whyte, beat Dubois or Joyce an the other upcoming fighters first before proclaiming all this hype!
Yes he’s the first to defeat Wilder but he had to resort to fighting dirty to help him achieve the victory, it’s a good win but it’s not an All time great win like y’all Wilder haters an fake Fury fans talk it up as!
I've been calling Wilder a bum-beating fraud for years. You guys are just now catching up. Just like I am calling Fury a steroid cheating con man who is massively overrated right now. And you guys will catch up within a year if he actually fights guys in the top 30 instead of fighting Sefari, Wallin, Schwarz and the rest. Fury and Wilder both turned down career high paydays and unification from AJ and Hearn so they are chumps in my book. Plus they both only have 2 good names on their records.
it seemed like we all were but then at some point that changed and people though he was legit. maybe the ortiz fight? ortiz is definitely a solid fighter but old, out of shape, and off PED's? not really that great and he looked horrible in that fight but besides that i dont really know what happeend. its like trump. he was and is still a joke but people still defend him even though he admitted to killing 200 thousand people with his negligence and lies. at least wilder didnt kill anyone, hes not good enough lol
Wilder would have a puncher's chance against anyone ever at HW. Against anyone in the top 100 all-time he would probably get outboxed too. But he stops a lot of them. That's all that really needs to be said about him.
He'd get outboxed by most of the current top 15.
As mentioned by someone else, if he wasn't a long standing champion you'd rate his CV reasonably highly, but he just doesn't have the CV for a guy with this title background.
That's partly on Wilder but a huge amount of blame falls on the WBC.
Their approach to mandatories is shocking.
Wilder would have a puncher's chance against anyone ever at HW. Against anyone in the top 100 all-time he would probably get outboxed too. But he stops a lot of them. That's all that really needs to be said about him.
You can call Wilder many things, but ducker isn't one of them.
Povetkin failed a PED test. Eddie Hearn blocked Wilder from AJ in 2018.
He's willingly fighting the hardest opponent of his career for a THIRD time.
but he ducked joshua to fight ortiz in a rematch and an out of shape fury(his words)
Ortiz, Brezeale, Stiverne, Washington and Scott were all good wins, especially in the moment.
The draw against Fury is incredibly impressive, even though he should have lost.
Sorry Scott was not a good win, it was as clear of a fix as I have ever seen. The punch hit the gloves.
Washington sucks, Ortiz ok, Stiverne sucks and Wilder had to go the distance (despite his power).