[Please Help] Will Fury go down as an ATG???

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He won't be unless he shows he wants to be. Beating wlad and wilder in their backyards is good start. Now beat usyk and Josh and whyte, then he will be an Atg. Wlad fighting until 40 showed he wanted it with 18 titles defences. Not everyone saying there's only one route to being an atg. People might think of fury as not having attention span to go the wlad route as easily distracted maybe

Because that's actually a possibility. There has never been a fighter like him and probably never will be again. And boxing has no grown since the golden era, it isn't the golden era because of nostalgia, its golden because the sport was globally at its peak. More knowledge has been lost than gained. The average fighter is poor, technically and stamina wise, compared to the past. Fury is a special fighter and you may disagree with me today, but I really hope you realize it in your lifetime. Well I’d pick Fury head to head against anyone in history. I think he would’ve given any of the greats absolute nightmares. He will be considered an ATG for sure. Would I say the greatest? - there’s too many factors of what defines the greatest, it’s very subjective but head to head, I’d fancy Fury against anybody throughout history.

100% Also, the way people get nostalgic over older era’s will always exist. I bet pretty much everyone on this forum in 25 years time will be telling people fighters in that current era wouldn’t have beaten Fury. He will go down as the best of this era and will be even more appreciated later on. Because that's actually a possibility. There has never been a fighter like him and probably never will be again. And boxing has no grown since the golden era, it isn't the golden era because of nostalgia, its golden because the sport was globally at its peak. More knowledge has been lost than gained. The average fighter is poor, technically and stamina wise, compared to the past. Fury is a special fighter and you may disagree with me today, but I really hope you realize it in your lifetime.

It’s possible. Fury is 33 … at similar ages Lennox Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko had yet to establish themselves as ATG’s.

Let him beat Usyk, White and AJ and he will be

Shame about Wilder never learning the basics of boxing. Better hope Fury hasn't gotten used to such opponents. I think hes too much of a gym rat and student of the game to actually regress in some way like that. He spars when he isn't in camp, hes a fighter, he loves to fight. He isn't some fighter who tries to gather courage on the way to the ring before a big fight, it's just another day at the office. He's a man who was born to fight, not someone who came to boxing as plan B. Honestly I can't wait for him to fight someone other than Wilder. I love his creativity, prowess, and showboating, whether it's Usyk, Wallin again, Whyte, AJ, or someone else, I think it will be a clinic. You never know what he will do in the ring, and I say that as a compliment.

Respected yes. Feared, never. It will be a war. Won't start like one, but will end like one. Look for Fury to put on a show. A big drama show. Shame about Wilder never learning the basics of boxing. Better hope Fury hasn't gotten used to such opponents.

Usyk is everything Wilder isn't and is to be feared to some extent. If AJ can't win the rematch, Fury stands no chance. Respected yes. Feared, never. It will be a war. Won't start like one, but will end like one. Look for Fury to put on a show. A big drama show.

Hostage in a sense that those are really just Furys belts, ready for recuperation. Hostage in a sense that everyone who is a belt holder in the division who isn't named Tyson Fury, is a paper champion. Hostage in a sense that anyone who dares stand before Fury and undisputed, is a dead man walking. Usyk is everything Wilder isn't and is to be feared to some extent. If AJ can't win the rematch, Fury stands no chance.

100% Also, the way people get nostalgic over older era’s will always exist. I bet pretty much everyone on this forum in 25 years time will be telling people fighters in that current era wouldn’t have beaten Fury. He will go down as the best of this era and will be even more appreciated later on. Best of an era does not mean ATG, to me he doesnt have the resume as its a poor era and I only really see the size, as in boxing ability he is not that good ability wise against the better skilled faster smaller ATGs, a 270 lb Holyfield would stop him, a 270 lb Ali would give a lesson on how to copy him, Im in no way saying Fury is not the best of era but I see him and other modern guys like him as just big, bring them down in size to 220-240 and they would be eaten by real sharks. And I dont say this about other divisions because they are fighting the same weights as they were 100 yrs ago, boxing is about men fighting at the same weight, a fight is very much about size thats why they have weight classes, todays HWs are way outside the size and weights of former great HWs, its not nostalgia its pound for pound fighting, not who can be the biggest Goliath beating on smaller guys and looking killers, and then two Goliaths looking competitive to each other,, they are big they are not ATGs, maybe in 20 yrs Fury is small and the Goliath of that days fans are touting how easy he would beat fury. Drop all the size and resume and just look at the pound for pound fighting, the best boxers are between 130-175, this the range of the perfect human athlete, to me its the fighting can the guy really fight, can he beat that guy, if not then the other dude is better, if he cant because of size it dont count, with me its always been the fighting and I judge them like I would racehorse on a racetrack, I look at the machine the rest dont matter to me.

100% Also, the way people get nostalgic over older era’s will always exist. I bet pretty much everyone on this forum in 25 years time will be telling people fighters in that current era wouldn’t have beaten Fury. He will go down as the best of this era and will be even more appreciated later on.

Yes for sure!!! Fury is already an ATG!!!!

Its funny how each generation of fans will tout their generations best as being ATG, Ive lived and seen many eras of boxing I don't think the super HWs of the last 10 years are ATG material, they are the best of the biggest, with pound for pound boxing ability they not as good as historys smaller ATG HWs, in my eyes the super HW started with Lennox Lewis, they just got bigger not better.

If he retires, yes. On paper, he's huge, quick hands, can fight, can box, undefeated. If he keeps fighting, much less likely as, like everyone else, be will probably lose at some point.

Too early to say, if he beats more top contenders like Whyte and becomes undisputed, I would say yes. If he goes back to drinking and snorting and retires today, no.

He’s an ATG right now even if he doesn’t fight anymore, his name will be remembered forever especially after this last fight. I don’t rate him at all as a boxer, but what he has accomplished and the wars he has been in, a definite ATG. But that doesn’t mean, he’s the best ever, he’s just at ATG, top 30 HWs of all time. If he beats Usyk for undisputed then he’s top 10 all time, if he also beats AJ then he’s The greatest of all time. I like how you leave the window open for possibility. I think he fights the winner of the rematch and probably Wallin again first. AJ vs Fury is always a money fight in the UK because I feel the UK don't rate you lower for taking a loss, whereas casuals in the US act like you're a lesser fighter because of it. I think we get that fight.

If he beats 2-3 more high-level, name guys, then I guess he can have a shot at ATG. He's 33, so he should have the time do so.

Hostage ???? Explain when he has an immediate rematch about to happen Hostage in a sense that those are really just Furys belts, ready for recuperation. Hostage in a sense that everyone who is a belt holder in the division who isn't named Tyson Fury, is a paper champion. Hostage in a sense that anyone who dares stand before Fury and undisputed, is a dead man walking.

But stylistically there's nobody in history who you would pick over him with any degree of certainty. Lennox Lewis and quite easily.