For starters, there's no way Lopez can beat Loma on points... Lomachenko is WAY too active and point oriented in his approach.
The longer this fight goes without a knockout, the more desperate Lopez is going to get for a knockout as he will inevitably be down on points... But Lopez doesn't strike me a guy who will be content to just survive like a lot of other fighters Loma has taken to the distance... He's going to be banking on his explosiveness/speed and power throughout the fight, and constantly trying to catch Loma with something... I don't see Lopez letting off the gas at any point...
If Loma manages to really figure out Lopez as well, it's going to make Lopez that more frustrated and willing to take dangerous risks...
It will come down to the more skillful fighter (Loma) who is also very fast and strong, catching the young hungry lion as he comes in trying something reckless... Don't forget, when Lomachenko got knocked down in his last fight, he immediately changed gears and turned up his level of intensity... A a fired up Lomachenko has more tools in his arsenal than a fired up Lopez
Of course, Lopez COULD catch Lomachenko with something too... But I see the IQ of Loma prevailing here...Either way, I don't see how this fight could possibly not end in a KO
I think Lopez loses by a clear decision. I don't think he'll get stopped.
Was watching his previous fights and he's just too flat footed. Loma will close the distance quickly and get off very often.
Lil boys LMAO I’m prolly older than you, and I got a pic with Salido at the weigh ins he wasn’t over weight that much at the weigh-ins just couldn’t get it off, and even with the low blows Loma didn’t do enough to secure a victory, maybe next time!
Well you act like a little boy, that's all that matters. Your boy fought dirty and I'm sure you almost had a heart attack in the 12th.
There was no rematch for a reason. Stop making stupid statements like you're a child. This **** is ridiculous the way you boys act.
Linares chin is not as bad as some think it is. There've been two KOs that were legit. One really, in my mind.
Cano's knockout was legit.
Juan Salgado's KO was weird. It was legit but was odd because Linares seemed to have suffered a flash knockdown in round one. Then, after the ref gave him an eight count in his corner, Linares adjusted his trunks. After adjusting his trunks, he looked up and Salgado was already in his corner, hitting him as if by surprise. That resulted in the TKO.
Demarco's TKO was weird, too. Linares had a really bad cut on the ridge of his nose. It happened early in the fight. Linares was winning easily on the score cards. Then his corner messed up with the cut, dropping the q-tip with vaseline. In the 12th round, the judge stopped the fight because the excess bleeding didn't allow Jorge to see the punches.
The other one was a fight in Mexico. (His name was Sergio Thomson.) This was the worst one because it looked like a corrupt call. Linares was buzzed; the ref told him to see the doctor, and the doctor, within one second (without looking at Linares), waived the fight off. You could see how confused Linares was. That's what happens when a non-Mexican fighter fights in Mexico.
Then there was the body blow by Lomachenko. But that wasn't his chin.
The point is that his chin isn't so bad as everyone thinks, and he does not cut up as easily as is claimed. His worst cut was on the top of his nose.
Good post, bro.
What that string of "weird" KOs add to is a fighter who needs to be comfortable, get set in their mind, and control the fight from the get. If they can't get their way, they are done. That's what Linares is. He's a hit or miss, not reliable fighter, kinda bum. I saw all those KOs too. I knew Linares long before his Japan days.
Loma not outclassing him wasn't cool.
LMAO. What are you happy about it? LMAO. Dude fought for a world title in his second pro fight... let the dude be 25 pounds more than him and got fouled the entire night. And almost got him out of there in the 12th.
You little boys are hysterical.
Lil boys LMAO I’m prolly older than you, and I got a pic with Salido at the weigh ins he wasn’t over weight that much at the weigh-ins just couldn’t get it off, and even with the low blows Loma didn’t do enough to secure a victory, maybe next time!
Not a good comparison in terms of seriousness and overall value.
Azumah Nelson was a humble, focused champion, and is an ATG.
Hot head Lopez - especially if he loses to Lomachenko - will become a footnote sooner than we think.
Kosta Tszyu the same..
Well I pointed out how favoritism played a part in him even getting a title shot to win in his 3rd fight because you bragged on it. If you can acknowledge that corruption/favoritism has played a part in his rise then why brag on it? He fought for a vacant title in his 3rd fight immediately after a loss in his 2nd fight. He didn’t even beat a sitting champion.
I’m not even criticizing loma, I just point out that he gets favoritism from fans, the media, and the sport itself.
I didn't brag on it. I acknowledged that you're right and there are definitely fighters who get opportunities over other fighters. I simply pointed out that he still had to win the fight and he won it cleanly. Maybe favoritism got him the opportunity but his skills got him the victory. I would also point out that Gary Russell Jr was an extremely risky fight coming off of a loss and he pulled it off.
If you don't feel like he deserved the fight in the first place then I certainly understand that point of view and I do my best to be objective.
Linares chin is not as bad as some think it is. There've been two KOs that were legit. One really, in my mind.
Cano's knockout was legit.
Juan Salgado's KO was weird. It was legit but was odd because Linares seemed to have suffered a flash knockdown in round one. Then, after the ref gave him an eight count in his corner, Linares adjusted his trunks. After adjusting his trunks, he looked up and Salgado was already in his corner, hitting him as if by surprise. That resulted in the TKO.
Demarco's TKO was weird, too. Linares had a really bad cut on the ridge of his nose. It happened early in the fight. Linares was winning easily on the score cards. Then his corner messed up with the cut, dropping the q-tip with vaseline. In the 12th round, the judge stopped the fight because the excess bleeding didn't allow Jorge to see the punches.
The other one was a fight in Mexico. (His name was Sergio Thomson.) This was the worst one because it looked like a corrupt call. Linares was buzzed; the ref told him to see the doctor, and the doctor, within one second (without looking at Linares), waived the fight off. You could see how confused Linares was. That's what happens when a non-Mexican fighter fights in Mexico.
Then there was the body blow by Lomachenko. But that wasn't his chin.
The point is that his chin isn't so bad as everyone thinks, and he does not cut up as easily as is claimed. His worst cut was on the top of his nose.
He is a good boxer and he can protect it to a certain extent. He can be ahead on a fight and just get KOed. Its unreliable, all of his loses are by KO. I like the guy but his chin is his biggest weak spot. Same thing with Jhonny Gonzalez. Another unreliable chin.
Linares chin is unreliable. Lopez's chin is unknown.
Linares chin is not as bad as some think it is. There've been two KOs that were legit. One really, in my mind.
Cano's knockout was legit.
Juan Salgado's KO was weird. It was legit but was odd because Linares seemed to have suffered a flash knockdown in round one. Then, after the ref gave him an eight count in his corner, Linares adjusted his trunks. After adjusting his trunks, he looked up and Salgado was already in his corner, hitting him as if by surprise. That resulted in the TKO.
Demarco's TKO was weird, too. Linares had a really bad cut on the ridge of his nose. It happened early in the fight. Linares was winning easily on the score cards. Then his corner messed up with the cut, dropping the q-tip with vaseline. In the 12th round, the judge stopped the fight because the excess bleeding didn't allow Jorge to see the punches.
The other one was a fight in Mexico. (His name was Sergio Thomson.) This was the worst one because it looked like a corrupt call. Linares was buzzed; the ref told him to see the doctor, and the doctor, within one second (without looking at Linares), waived the fight off. You could see how confused Linares was. That's what happens when a non-Mexican fighter fights in Mexico.
Then there was the body blow by Lomachenko. But that wasn't his chin.
The point is that his chin isn't so bad as everyone thinks, and he does not cut up as easily as is claimed. His worst cut was on the top of his nose.
I'm sure Linares would have loved to have heard this from you, seeing as how he fought Loma weighing the same as a welterweight. Then again, I believe he thought that he, a good, bigger guy, was going to overcome Loma, so it probably wouldn't have made a hell of a lot of difference.
Linares chin is unreliable. Lopez's chin is unknown.
Ok, let's say he got the title shot in his 3rd fight due to corruption and favoritism. I'll give you that but he still had to win the fight and he won clean.
Take a look at the top 10 at 135 on Boxrec. Loma is the only guy to beat two people on that list. Now he's facing the only other guy to beat one person on that list. The rest of them have yet to face each other. And yes, I know that guys like Garcia, Haney, and Tank are younger so of course they have time to change that. I'm just talking about where things stand right now.
We can find things to criticize about any fighter if we look hard enough, I just wanted to give an objective take.Well I pointed out how favoritism played a part in him even getting a title shot to win in his 3rd fight because you bragged on it. If you can acknowledge that corruption/favoritism has played a part in his rise then why brag on it? He fought for a vacant title in his 3rd fight immediately after a loss in his 2nd fight. He didn’t even beat a sitting champion.
I’m not even criticizing loma, I just point out that he gets favoritism from fans, the media, and the sport itself.
So basically Mikey has a solid chin what you’re saying, and nothing changes Loma still lost to Salido and I was there to enjoy it live!
LMAO. What are you happy about it? LMAO. Dude fought for a world title in his second pro fight... let the dude be 25 pounds more than him and got fouled the entire night. And almost got him out of there in the 12th.
You little boys are hysterical.
Nah don’t think those greats would’ve lost their 2nd pro fight to a journeyman!
Lmfao.... you ****ing clowns never get old. Ever. We'll discuss this when Loma stops Lopez.
Mikey Garcia got dropped heavily in his 15th fight by a guy named Walter Estrada and only eked out a win by a single point on two of the judge's cards. Estrada was coming off a stoppage loss to Kevin Mitchell.
And when Mikey fought Salido the previous year to Loma fighting Salido they both weighed about the same, Salido didn't have an 11 pound weight advantage on him. You think a 1-0 Mikey who nearly lost to a much lesser fighter than Salido in his 15th fight is beating an 11 pound heavier Salido in his 2nd fight??
Back when Garcia was 14-0 in October of 2008, he faced left-hander Walter Estrada and, if you recall, he hit the deck against the seasoned
veteran in winning a close, unanimous decision.
"Yeah, he did; Walter Estrada from Colombia dropped him with a straight left hand and actually, when he hit him, a lot of people thought the fight was over," remembered Dunkin.
"He hit him completely solid; it was amazing how Mikey got up. Didn’t even wobble, he jumped right up and moved around and had himself together. It sounded like the fight was over when he hit him. It just showed what a tremendous chin Mikey
has."
Goodman’s recollection of the fight was, "I believe it was the first fight that he’s fought as a pro against a southpaw. Got hit with a real good shot. I mean, walked straight into it and to Mikey’s credit, he got up. I believe he did win the fight; I don’t think there was any controversy. I thought he won fair and square. To me, he showed a good chin. He was real composed right after the knockdown. He didn’t get rattled or anything. It was some kind of adversity that he did face and he came through with flying colors, as far as I’m concerned."
Part of the process in developing a fighter is seeing how they deal with rough waters. Garcia says he came out of that fight a better man.
"I think I’ve learned from the Estrada fight and the previous fights enough to feel more mature," said Garcia, who’s record stands at 22-0 with 18 stoppages. "I went into that fight with like 14 fights or something and Estrada, he was like 36-6 at
the time. So it was a bit of an advantage on the experience level. This time, I think I’ve grown a little more and had a few more fights were I’ve learned from the fight and I am a bit more mature and a little more experienced."
So basically Mikey has a solid chin what you’re saying, and nothing changes Loma still lost to Salido and I was there to enjoy it live!
Lopez is naturally bigger, younger and explosive. He has a hell of a chance to win. Loma has a lot of talent but a good bigger guy can overcome a lot of that.
I'm sure Linares would have loved to have heard this from you, seeing as how he fought Loma weighing the same as a welterweight. Then again, I believe he thought that he, a good, bigger guy, was going to overcome Loma, so it probably wouldn't have made a hell of a lot of difference.
Davis-Santa Cruz (who is more accomplished than Lopez) is considered a complete mismatch at Santa's weight where he's a champion. Lopez-Monachenko is almost 50/50. That tells a story.
davis is only -275 over santa cruz. thats not considered a mismatch.
loma is -350 against lopez. thats not almost 50-50 especially considering you think -275 is a complete mismatch...logically if -275 is a mismatch then -350 is an even bigger mismatch...i mean logically but i know we left logic behind long ago
the story it tells is you need to do some more research because you make things up
tank fighting a tiny unranked guy who has never fought anyone at 130 or 135(where the fight will happen) and he's only a -275 favorite. that does say a lot about what people expect from him. not much.
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great counter argument! also your original argument isnt even true. lomachekno started as a -350 fav over lopez while tank started at -275 favorite over santa cruz so if we use your own argument loma must be considered a lot better since he's fighting the much better opponent and is still more heavily favored, but why should we use your own arguments right? they are silly after all