Who would won objectivaly between Prime Mike and Motivated Fury?
This is probably not a popular opinion but I think fully fit and motivated Fury would have everything to beat even Prime Mike. Dude is 6'8, 6'9 and extremely hard to hit and elusive when he is fully concentrated. Plus could lean on 5:10 Mike whole fight.
But Mike was freak of nature though, even being only 5'10.
To move like he usually does at 250/260 is still unbelievable. I bet he wouldn't be bad at moving at 270+.
Deontay Wilder is not the type of fighter, which forces fighters into producing great movement 'Wilder's movement is very poor, his balance terrible and he appears extremely static'.
Tyson Fury at 270-80 pounds right now, has not displayed the ability to move LIKE he used to etc
We have not really seen Tyson Fury move much at 270/80 pounds. Is that Tyson Fury coming back? Wilder's movement is not great, he hardly forced Fury to display great athleticism in their second fight.
To move like he usually does at 250/260 is still unbelievable. I bet he wouldn't be bad at moving at 270+.
The same people saying Tyson beats Fury, are the same people who said Wilder beats Fury. Interesting... :lol1:
All BS aside, we all know Tyson Fury would have Mike Tyson beat before the opening bell. Tyson was only good when people were terrified of him. Fury would be anything but.Deontay Wilder will defeat Tyson Fury in the trilogy by coming forward, putting his punches together, while throwing them in bunches and combinations. He cannot allow Fury to get his punches off first and dictate the tempo. In addition, he must land his left hook and beat Fury to the punch. If Wilder were to implement this strategy I could guarantee, he wins that fight by way of knockout victory.
Interesting, but they say Usyk is too small for modern hw division.
But still, they believe small hw-s from the past, like Mike, would finish Fury in a few rounds. Strange folks.
If Usyk fought anything like prime Iron Mike Tyson, nobody would be writing him off as a HW.
He is a genetic marvel for the sheer athleticism and speed he has at his immense weight and frame.
We have not really seen Tyson Fury move much at 270/80 pounds. Is that Tyson Fury coming back? Wilder's movement is not great, he hardly forced Fury to display great athleticism in their second fight.
I know you like Tyson Fury, but he is no genetic marvel.
If Tyson Fury was not a boxer, and you saw him walking down the street 'You would think he was a regular pub goer'.
Besides from his height, he is not a impressive athlete 'Mike Tyson was a genetic marvel and impressive athlete, so mocking his height is irrelevant'.
Tyson Fury is 280 lbs, but lets not try and make out 'That he is solid at the weight'.
He is a genetic marvel for the sheer athleticism and speed he has at his immense weight and frame.
Prime Mike. I don't think Fury could live with the pace, Mike's ability to slip and weave his way to his opponents chest means he gets inside often and when he does there's plenty of body for him to attack. An uppercut on his way out of a clinch sends Fury crashing to the canvas in a manner like the smaller Steve Cunningham did.
The thing is I do always seem to pick against Fury and he keeps shutting me up, I saw no way he was going to beat Klitschko or Wilder the first time round (which I think he did) and even in the rematch I picked Wilder to get him outta there so I wouldn't argue with anyone picking Fury vs Mike but I got Mike by TKO late
Even prime Mike hated someone with a good jab and Fury can outsize and outmuscle him on the inside.
The same people saying Tyson beats Fury, are the same people who said Wilder beats Fury. Interesting... :lol1:
All BS aside, we all know Tyson Fury would have Mike Tyson beat before the opening bell. Tyson was only good when people were terrified of him. Fury would be anything but.
People try and make out that Tyson Fury is solid outside of the ring 'In reality, Tyson Fury from my observation has lived abit of sheltered life' He is not this bare knuckle street fighter, that people try and make him out to be etc
I think Fury would be shook, he was shook vs David Haye speaking 1 million miles per hour in their press conferences.
The same people saying Tyson beats Fury, are the same people who said Wilder beats Fury. Interesting... :lol1:
All BS aside, we all know Tyson Fury would have Mike Tyson beat before the opening bell. Tyson was only good when people were terrified of him. Fury would be anything but.
Interesting, but they say Usyk is too small for modern hw division.
But still, they believe small hw-s from the past, like Mike, would finish Fury in a few rounds. Strange folks.
The same people saying Tyson beats Fury, are the same people who said Wilder beats Fury. Interesting... :lol1:
All BS aside, we all know Tyson Fury would have Mike Tyson beat before the opening bell. Tyson was only good when people were terrified of him. Fury would be anything but.
See the size difference there?
Mike looks like a member of a pygmy dwarf tribe
Vitali 6'7" 245lbs
Fury 6'9" 280lbs
Mike Tyson stands zero chance, he would have to jump to reach Fury's chin.
I know you like Tyson Fury, but he is no genetic marvel.
If Tyson Fury was not a boxer, and you saw him walking down the street 'You would think he was a regular pub goer'.
Besides from his height, he is not a impressive athlete 'Mike Tyson was a genetic marvel and impressive athlete, so mocking his height is irrelevant'.
Tyson Fury is 280 lbs, but lets not try and make out 'That he is solid at the weight'.
Guys like Tua and Mike Tyson were just too small to deal with big world class heavyweights. Mike would have lost the same way Tua lost to Lennox.
I knew David Tua. David Tua was no Iron Mike Tyson
Mike Tyson resume suggests he would win. There aren't nearly enough good names on Tyson Fury's resume to even suggest that he could be remotely competitive with Mike Tyson.
Sure he has physical and athletic ability but one is going to have to have skill and power in order to defeat Iron Mike. Prime for prime Mike would be the most fundamentally sound, scientific and complete boxer that Fury has ever faced.
Tyson Fury needs to start making some title defenses first before we start comparing him to all-time greats. We all need to slow down on this coronation of Tyson Fury as one of the greatest fighters of all time nonsense.
Wow, my precise thoughts.
Who would won objectivaly between Prime Mike and Motivated Fury?
This is probably not a popular opinion but I think fully fit and motivated Fury would have everything to beat even Prime Mike. Dude is 6'8, 6'9 and extremely hard to hit and elusive when he is fully concentrated. Plus could lean on 5:10 Mike whole fight.
But Mike was freak of nature though, even being only 5'10.
Who's MaTyson?
Is that Mike Tyson's grandmother? I go with her if Tyson Fury is not motivated.
Jk
Tyson Fury is way too big and rangy for any version of Mike Tyson to overcome him if he comes in properly trained.
Who would won objectivaly between Prime Mike and Motivated Fury?
This is probably not a popular opinion but I think fully fit and motivated Fury would have everything to beat even Prime Mike. Dude is 6'8, 6'9 and extremely hard to hit and elusive when he is fully concentrated. Plus could lean on 5:10 Mike whole fight.
But Mike was freak of nature though, even being only 5'10.
This is one of my previous posts from a thread about Mike Tyson and Anthony Joshua. I amended it a bit for this thread since we are talking about Iron Mike and the Gypsy King:
I went to Boxrec to take a look back at Tyson's opponents during his prime (1986-1990, or from the Berbick fight to his loss against Buster Douglas), and here is what I found:
Tyson weighed between 215 and 221 for those fights so let's just average it out to 218.
All of his opponents held significant height and reach advantages, however Tyson especially destroyed guys who weighed under 220. (4 KO's, 3 within the first two rounds)
Of course he handled everyone else too, however the guys who weighed in the high 220's and 230's fared better against him on average.
Tyson's two toughest opponents during this stretch were James "Bonecrusher" Smith (6'4" with 82" reach, 233 lbs.) and Buster Douglas (just under 6'4" with 83" reach, 231 lbs.)
Tyson Fury is 6'9" with an 85" reach, and even the super-slimmed down version of Fury weighed 247 for Wlad Klitschko and 256 for the first Wilder fight, which is still way heavier than all of Tyson's opponents during his prime run.
With all that said, I have two predictions:
If Tyson Fury comes in at 270 plus and looks to bulldoze Iron Mike then somebody's getting knocked out early. My money would be on Mike because he was better at in-fighting and he would have the quicker hands on the inside.
If Tyson Fury comes in at 245-255 then he boxes his way to a decision or late stoppage.
That's just my two cents and my research tells me that Iron Mike would have major issues no matter what.
Prime Mike was capable of knocking pretty much anybody out but both of them on their best day the good big man beats the good little man 9 out of 10 times.
20 year old Mike Tyson > 20 year old Tyson Fury
30 year old Tyson Fury >>> 30 year old Mike Tyson
"Prime Fury" (What we are seeing now, 270 pounds 32 years old) takes "Prime Tyson" (1988) late and beats him by TKO or decision.