This is simple mathematics. Mike Tyson is gong to hit Anthony Joshua, how is Joshua going to deal with it? Joshua does not have the punching power to deter Mike Tyson.
Mike Tyson at his peak or at any stage of his career 'Was never easy to hit'. At his peak and even in the mid-90's, he had a better defense than all of the active heavyweights today.
Mike Tyson, end's Tyson Fury also.
Good analysis mate. I completely agree.
This is simple mathematics. Mike Tyson is gong to hit Anthony Joshua, how is Joshua going to deal with it? Joshua does not have the punching power to deter Mike Tyson.
Mike Tyson at his peak or at any stage of his career 'Was never easy to hit'. At his peak and even in the mid-90's, he had a better defense than all of the active heavyweights today.
Mike Tyson, end's Tyson Fury also.
I went to Boxrec to take a look back at Tyson's opponents during his prime (1986-1990, or from the Berbick fight to his loss against Buster Douglas), and here is what I found:
Tyson weighed between 215 and 221 for those fights so let's just average it out to 218.
All of his opponents held significant height and reach advantages, however Tyson especially destroyed guys who weighed under 220. (4 KO's, 3 within the first two rounds)
Of course he handled everyone else too, however the guys who weighed in the high 220's and 230's fared better against him on average.
Tyson's two toughest opponents during this stretch were James "Bonecrusher" Smith (6'4" with 82" reach, 233 lbs.) and Buster Douglas (just under 6'4" with 83" reach, 231 lbs.)
Anthony Joshua is 6'6" with an 82" reach, and he has weighed in the low to mid 240's for his last five fights. Even the super-slimmed down version of AJ still weighed 237, which is heavier than all of Tyson's opponents during his prime run.
Does that mean AJ would win? No, but it does tell me that AJ probably wouldn't get stopped in a single round. The more likely outcome is that Joshua would go some rounds like Tyrell Biggs did
This is true although i think Biggs success was due to him being great on his feet and defensively solid and I dont see that in AJ but there is a chance Mike may struggle with AJs size reach and punching power like he did against Smith and Douglas (I don't think Smith and Douglas fought Mike in his prime though) However there's also the point that just like prime Mike was never tested by someone with AJs size, AJ has never been tested by someone with Mikes power. We know AJ has both a weak chin and leaky defense because he's been hurt and dropped by guys not known as huge punchers. If he just simply can't take Mikes shots he may not make it past the opening round. But the truth is we just can't know how either guy would do in that situation because they haven't fought anyone comparable to each other. Or atleast Mike didn't in his prime.
We talking about a prime mike here Corey.
I know, I was explaining to this other guy that if we're talking about prime Mike then his performances against Douglas and Bruno can't be taken into consideration
It’s a total coin flip of a fight. Joshua has a lot of natural advantages against Mike.
This loss to Ruiz has everyone forgetting that Joshua is a professional boxer and doesn’t get into the ring for a tickling competition.
I think prime Tyson would be vs Holmes or Biggs. He looked like absolute dog***** against Douglas and didn't really look great against Bruno either. AJ could def go some rounds against that version of Mike
I went to Boxrec to take a look back at Tyson's opponents during his prime (1986-1990, or from the Berbick fight to his loss against Buster Douglas), and here is what I found:
Tyson weighed between 215 and 221 for those fights so let's just average it out to 218.
All of his opponents held significant height and reach advantages, however Tyson especially destroyed guys who weighed under 220. (4 KO's, 3 within the first two rounds)
Of course he handled everyone else too, however the guys who weighed in the high 220's and 230's fared better against him on average.
Tyson's two toughest opponents during this stretch were James "Bonecrusher" Smith (6'4" with 82" reach, 233 lbs.) and Buster Douglas (just under 6'4" with 83" reach, 231 lbs.)
Anthony Joshua is 6'6" with an 82" reach, and he has weighed in the low to mid 240's for his last five fights. Even the super-slimmed down version of AJ still weighed 237, which is heavier than all of Tyson's opponents during his prime run.
Does that mean AJ would win? No, but it does tell me that AJ probably wouldn't get stopped in a single round. The more likely outcome is that Joshua would go some rounds like Tyrell Biggs did
I don't think it's a guarantee. If Tyson could lose to Buster Douglas then he could lose to Joshua imo. I wouldn't put money on Joshua or anything but I wouldn't bet on Tyson knocking him out in one round either.
I agree. AJ could certainly follow that blueprint and have some success. I tend to think that a fully focused Tyson would get to him eventually, however the fight would get interesting if it went to the later rounds.
I think prime Tyson would be vs Holmes or Biggs. He looked like absolute dog***** against Douglas and didn't really look great against Bruno either. AJ could def go some rounds against that version of Mike
We talking about a prime mike here Corey.
I don't think it's a guarantee. If Tyson could lose to Buster Douglas then he could lose to Joshua imo. I wouldn't put money on Joshua or anything but I wouldn't bet on Tyson knocking him out in one round either.
I think prime Tyson would be vs Holmes or Biggs. He looked like absolute dog***** against Douglas and didn't really look great against Bruno either. AJ could def go some rounds against that version of Mike
AJ is better than Frank Bruno and Tyson took 6 rounds to finish him. No chance your scenario is right.
Tyson in his prime was very quick, much quicker & hit harder to than Ruiz. Tyson by ko!
Apart from Douglas, Tyson's most significant losses were to Lewis and Holyfield whom he had sparred with before. A prime Tyson's style is something, if you hadn't seen or experienced before, would be very hard to beat the first time. Only Ruddock was able to do better the second time against Mike in a rematch...excluding his loss to Holyfield. I said all that to say that I don't think Josh could handle the intensity Mike brought to the table. Josh would panic. He would do better in a rematch, but would lose the first. I think it would go like the fights with Ruddock. However, Josh would have been the biggest fighter Tyson would have faced in a pro fight at 6'6"....without knowing all the people he sparred with of course.
Mike dont want get caught with a big one either, but I do see Wilder being poleaxed.
Prime Tyson isn't getting hit by Wilders windmills, he's far too good for that.
I don't think any of the supposedly best guys right now would last long with a prime Tyson. Fury would last the longest but even he gets caught and ko'd
Mike wasn't known for ending ''legit'' guys in 1. I would rank AJ over every guy Mike beat (I feel AJ would have beaten the Holmes Mike fought).
No way he ends AJ in the 1st rd.