Why did Andy ruiz pass as "mexican"?

Imperial Valley is pretty much Mexico anyway. I think its a border town.Unless a Mexican-American who lives there speaking perfect english crosses the border and tries to integrate; the locals will see him as an outsider. Especially if he competes there with someone born and raised in Mexico. Then the lines would be drawn in the sand and he would realize just how unaccepted he is as a "true Mexican". Oscar De La Hoya knows this situation all too well.

Imperial Valley is pretty much Mexico anyway. I think its a border town.

Well Frans Botha claimed he was African American does that make it necessarily so? And joe Bugner has gone from Hungarian (where he was born) to British to Australian.... so can we just choose our own nationality / ethnic origin? If so it all becomes rather meaningless. Who was that idiotic US politician who claimed they were 1/100th ‘native american’ so that made her a minority? It’s all a BS political agenda and just slightly less ridiculous than men by cutting off their d ick, getting artificially pumped full of chemicals and hormones, stopping a gaping wound in their body from healing and claiming they’re a woman. It’s all NWO agenda BS. Frans Botha never lived in America, so he wouldn't call himself that. And Lennox Lewis is considered Canadian by many boxing fans. he won the Olympic Gold for Canada.

There is no such thing as ethnically Mexican. Mexicans are a mongrel people - mixture of European Spaniards, other whites, and a whole bunch of ‘indigenous’ peoples from a variety of 89 different tribes and peoples - mayans, Aztecs etc. If Ruiz wants to identify mainly as Mexican because of his origins, even though he doesn’t speak Spanish, lives in USA AND was born there, I have no problem, not worth caring about. I like the dude. Always will after he flattened PED cheat Joshua. It’s just a bit more complex. If Ruiz was not a good fighter however and went to Mexico they would roll their eyes and laugh at him claiming to be Mexican.... As for Joshua - he’s part Nigerian, was born and fought for U.K., is based in U.K., only spent a few months in Nigeria and doesn’t speak any Nigerian dialect as well as being a quarter Irish.... so he can have whatever he wants too.... but if he wasn’t a successful fighter Nigerians wouldn’t count him as one of theirs you can be certain. I am descended from 6 nations so whatever. I can decide out of 6 and am eligible for at least 4 passports. Whoopie do for me..... I guess the litmus test is if you had to pick one who would it be?You're absolutely right about the "Mexico would roll their eyes" part. Examples I've seen that show how a fighter is really perceived is when a true Mexican fights against a Mexican-American. When Oscar De La Hoya fought Julio Cesar Chavez, all of Mexico got behind Chavez and Oscar outright became the enemy; they showed a very atmospheric disdain for Oscar. I remember when Danny Garcia went to Puerto Rico for one of his fights and the people there were nice and cordial to him and some boxing fans said "look, that proves he is well received as a Puerto Rican!" I then told those fans that they clearly just don't get it. If Garcia had come along earlier and was matched against Trinidad in his prime, Puerto Rico would have turned their backs on Garcia and seen him as public enemy #1 and embraced only Trinidad. One was embedded in the Puerto Rican culture and one clearly was not. In short, locals will dictate who is truly Mexican and who is truly Puerto Rican and will roll their eyes or turn their backs on a fighter who is not 100% purely their culture. It's like if a 3rd generation american who ancestry comes from England or Germany goes back to Europe claiming he is one of them...even if he lived in one of those places for 5 years, Germans and Englanders would see him not as one of them. With Mexican-Americans, their roots are closer to their origins, the Mexico border, rather than across the world like Europe, so I get that they want to rep being Mexican but Mexico will remind them very harshly that they are not true Mexican in their eyes.

There is no such thing as ethnically Mexican. Mexicans are a mongrel people - mixture of European Spaniards, other whites, and a whole bunch of ‘indigenous’ peoples from a variety of 89 different tribes and peoples - mayans, Aztecs etc. If Ruiz wants to identify mainly as Mexican because of his origins, even though he doesn’t speak Spanish, lives in USA AND was born there, I have no problem, not worth caring about. I like the dude. Always will after he flattened PED cheat Joshua. It’s just a bit more complex. If Ruiz was not a good fighter however and went to Mexico they would roll their eyes and laugh at him claiming to be Mexican.... As for Joshua - he’s part Nigerian, was born and fought for U.K., is based in U.K., only spent a few months in Nigeria and doesn’t speak any Nigerian dialect as well as being a quarter Irish.... so he can have whatever he wants too.... but if he wasn’t a successful fighter Nigerians wouldn’t count him as one of theirs you can be certain. I am descended from 6 nations so whatever. I can decide out of 6 and am eligible for at least 4 passports. Whoopie do for me..... I guess the litmus test is if you had to pick one who would it be?

so does that make most whites in america european and blacks african?

Why did Andy ruiz pass as "mexican"? He was born in California which is part of the US. Shouldn't he be called american. When he won against Joshua everyone was calling him the first "mexican heavyweight champion". No one had a problem with Ruiz being called mexican. But lets says Anthony Joshua is Nigerian. People would say hes not nigerian but british. Could be said for many other boxers. If I called Amir Khan for pakistani almost everybody would correct my saying hes British. The same could be said for Naseem Hamed as Yemeni and Lennox Lewis as Jamaican. Why is this? Its lineage. Hes Mexican American. Not a big deal IMHO

Anthony Joshua is Nigerian and Andy Ruiz is Mexican. Why is that so hard to understand? Nigerians love Joshua and Mexicans loved Andy. His performance in the rematch lost a lot of fans but he don’t stop being Mexican. Does AJ have the nigerean national anthem play at his fights and only talk about nigeria? There is a difference with Ruiz that I have not seen in other fighters. He acts like he is ashamed of being American.

Anthony Joshua is Nigerian and Andy Ruiz is Mexican. Why is that so hard to understand? Nigerians love Joshua and Mexicans loved Andy. His performance in the rematch lost a lot of fans but he don’t stop being Mexican.

He was very disingenuous about the whole thing. He was born and raised in California and at some point moved to mexico and has lived there for a while. But with him you never hear him mention the US or his US citizen ship. With other mexican americans like ODLH and Mikey Garcia ect, you never got that same vibe, everyone knew they were american and californian. Everyone knew guys like Chavez, Mab, morales, JMM were all mexican mexicans. Someone like Lennox Lewis, you knew his whole story and never tried to bury his links to UK, Canada and US. Ruiz seems to bury his links to the US which is ridiculous because you hear his accent and he sounds like a bro frat boy from california.

Why does it bother you? You need to think more maturely... If Andy Ruiz wanted dual citizenship and live in Mexico, he could, do protocol, and became a Mexican citizen. Therefore, he's ethnicity already (technically) looked the part, so would Mexican citizenship justify him being a ''Mexican?'' Just so you know, Joshua is already aiming for Nigerian citizenship. If he is granted one then by having dual-citizenship means any AJ fan can claim his as a Nigerian as well. yet, does it really fooking matter? Anthony Joshua @anthonyfjoshua enrolls for the National Identification Number and issued his NIN slip. pic.twitter.com/GS1osa6Rea— NIMC (@nimc_ng) February 18, 2020 Good post .

His parents were born in Mexico, he grew up in a primarily Mexican neighborhood in California, he trained to box in Mexico, and he fought for Mexico as an amateur. He's Mexican and he's American. It's not complicated.

he is mexican-american, nothing wrong with that... plus dual citizanship seals the deal for me... that means legally he should also be considered mexican and is not even up for debate...

Lol 😂 how can ‘Mexican’ be an ethnicity!??? It’s a nationality, a country, a passport.... Mexicans are a mix of ethnicities (ethnicity being a largely bogus concept anyway). You are truly a moron 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 I might’ve had the technical terminology messed up between race ethnicity nationality. My mistake. But you know what I meant. Touché! Ya little gay boy!

Well Frans Botha claimed he was African American does that make it necessarily so? And joe Bugner has gone from Hungarian (where he was born) to British to Australian.... so can we just choose our own nationality / ethnic origin? . Botha is white and African. You comparison is a bit off there. Bugner holds triple nationality. So yes you can choose your nationality.... What you cannot choose is your ethnicity, Margarito was born in America and he is straight up Mexican, not only because of his ethnicity but because he lived and grew up in Mexico, but am sure he travels around with his American passport, work and pay taxes in America, Ruiz actually lived and school in Mexicali and fought for the Mexican olympic Team. So he can be American and Mexican if he wants.

Because his ethnicity is Mexican. His nationality is American. A chubby Mexican from the states is a bigger story than just a chubby American. Lol 😂 how can ‘Mexican’ be an ethnicity!??? It’s a nationality, a country, a passport.... Mexicans are a mix of ethnicities (ethnicity being a largely bogus concept anyway). You are truly a moron 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

Because his ethnicity is Mexican. His nationality is American. A chubby Mexican from the states is a bigger story than just a chubby American.

Why did Andy ruiz pass as "mexican"? He was born in California which is part of the US. Shouldn't he be called american. When he won against Joshua everyone was calling him the first "mexican heavyweight champion". No one had a problem with Ruiz being called mexican. But lets says Anthony Joshua is Nigerian. People would say hes not nigerian but british. Could be said for many other boxers. If I called Amir Khan for pakistani almost everybody would correct my saying hes British. The same could be said for Naseem Hamed as Yemeni and Lennox Lewis as Jamaican. Why is this? Lennox Lewis holds dual citizenship. English and Canadian He was born in England but his parents moved to Canada where he learned how to box. His parents were born in Jamaica. Ruiz has dual American and Mexican citizenship and he fought as an amature for Mexico.

Because he claimed he is Mexican. Well Frans Botha claimed he was African American does that make it necessarily so? And joe Bugner has gone from Hungarian (where he was born) to British to Australian.... so can we just choose our own nationality / ethnic origin? If so it all becomes rather meaningless. Who was that idiotic US politician who claimed they were 1/100th ‘native american’ so that made her a minority? It’s all a BS political agenda and just slightly less ridiculous than men by cutting off their d ick, getting artificially pumped full of chemicals and hormones, stopping a gaping wound in their body from healing and claiming they’re a woman. It’s all NWO agenda BS.

Because he claimed he is Mexican.