IF you consider Pac Man top 3 all time p4p it illustrates you are a fanboy or DKSAB

Def top 3 if we are limiting this to boxers from the Philippines.

So the boxing legends and boxing aficionados are now called a fanboy and DKSAB but a worthless poster on here who isn't worthy to be even mentioned know better than them when talking about boxing. :lol1:

This the same place that had a poll between him and SRL ATG.... And it was super close. SRL is a top 5-ish ATG not Manny or Floyd..... This place is drowned with fanboys, and u get called a hater for calling out delusional posts based on superficial accolades

Why can't Pac be top 3? He started at flyweight and now is ww at 41. Ridiculous figures just like in the past

very possibly the most garbage post I have ever read on this site it's like you worked out what is correct, and then wrote the exact opposite truly horrible Agreed man , he HAS to be trolling . I was thinking the same thing u posted here and that's saying something there are some ****ty posts on this site haha .

There's a reason why Sam Langford, Jimmy Wilde, Mickey Walker, and all of those other old-timey guys from 100 years ago don't fight now. It's because they're no match for today's fighters and they can't compete with them. You know who else is super overrated and the only good fighters he ever beat were a blown up lightweight in Roberto Duran and that Winfred Benito guy?? Tommy Hearns. Pretty much any fighter before 1993 is garbage, except Shane Mosley. One of the most overrated modern-day fighters ever. Dude lost twice to Vernon Forrest. Who did Forrest ever beat besides Mosley?? NOBODY. Now that I think about it, pretty much all of us could be world champions if we trained. Have you ever seen boxing live? I have. I've seen Demetrius Andrade a few times in person and I don't think that guy is better than me. He's certainly not faster, more skilled, or more powerful. I'm white, by the way. How good can he be if he's not faster than some regular white dude? He's not. He's garbage. Ray Robinson is garbage. Who did he ever beat? Rocky Marciano and that's about it. Praise be to Allah. I am very exactly about this post. Over and out. very possibly the most garbage post I have ever read on this site it's like you worked out what is correct, and then wrote the exact opposite truly horrible

Point out exactly whats wrong will you I fail to see it. he doesnt like facts lol numbers dont lie...how can many be the best of his era lost to mayweather got ktfo by marquez outboxed by erik morales etc :bottle:

There's a reason why Sam Langford, Jimmy Wilde, Mickey Walker, and all of those other old-timey guys from 100 years ago don't fight now. It's because they're no match for today's fighters and they can't compete with them. You know who else is super overrated and the only good fighters he ever beat were a blown up lightweight in Roberto Duran and that Winfred Benito guy?? Tommy Hearns. Pretty much any fighter before 1993 is garbage, except Shane Mosley. One of the most overrated modern-day fighters ever. Dude lost twice to Vernon Forrest. Who did Forrest ever beat besides Mosley?? NOBODY. Now that I think about it, pretty much all of us could be world champions if we trained. Have you ever seen boxing live? I have. I've seen Demetrius Andrade a few times in person and I don't think that guy is better than me. He's certainly not faster, more skilled, or more powerful. I'm white, by the way. How good can he be if he's not faster than some regular white dude? He's not. He's garbage. Ray Robinson is garbage. Who did he ever beat? Rocky Marciano and that's about it. Praise be to Allah. I am very exactly about this post. Over and out. I look at those old timey reels and 99% of them are sloppy MFers. They make Wilder look like Ali.

Pac fans never go into DETAIL about his accomplishments. We know why

I don’t see how Jimmy Wilde is greater than Pacquiao :dunno:

There's a reason why Sam Langford, Jimmy Wilde, Mickey Walker, and all of those other old-timey guys from 100 years ago don't fight now. It's because they're no match for today's fighters and they can't compete with them. You know who else is super overrated and the only good fighters he ever beat were a blown up lightweight in Roberto Duran and that Winfred Benito guy?? Tommy Hearns. Pretty much any fighter before 1993 is garbage, except Shane Mosley. One of the most overrated modern-day fighters ever. Dude lost twice to Vernon Forrest. Who did Forrest ever beat besides Mosley?? NOBODY. Now that I think about it, pretty much all of us could be world champions if we trained. Have you ever seen boxing live? I have. I've seen Demetrius Andrade a few times in person and I don't think that guy is better than me. He's certainly not faster, more skilled, or more powerful. I'm white, by the way. How good can he be if he's not faster than some regular white dude? He's not. He's garbage. Ray Robinson is garbage. Who did he ever beat? Rocky Marciano and that's about it. Praise be to Allah. I am very exactly about this post. Over and out.

Maan you don’t know anything about boxing! You proved it with this post! Point out exactly whats wrong will you I fail to see it.

Manny is an all time great but he is nowhere near top 3 all time many will use the "8 titles doe" argument but take a look back at greats of the past Sam Langford beat hall of famers and world champions from 135 lbs to heavyweight Jimmy wilde had over 100 victories and 100 kos as a flyweight barely weighing 100 pounds whilst being undersized in most fights , fighting the best at bantamweight and lower Mickey walker challenged the best from lightweight to light-heavyweight at 5-6 and even fought drew with heavyweight champion jack sharkey and lost to max schmeling so many great fighters in the deep history of boxing lastly......its hard to argue someone being top 3 all time when they were not even the best fighter of their own era...that was floyd mayweather who beat him other champs and his toughest rival marquez Maan you don’t know anything about boxing! You proved it with this post!

i cant agree that there is to be honest, respectively Fair enough man...

TBRB.....youre the first person i even seen consider that fight a lineage fight to be honest....that was a wbo title fight bro....no lineage when that belt is by itself in most cases unless the title holder defeated the other champs or #2 guy....when they fought manny had just lost to mayweather and also got KTFO 4 fights prior... i guess but the timing the linage was up in the air and their were other belt holders..... either way manny is a legend but i dont see how any one with sense could have him over guys like Ray Robinson, SuGAR ray leonard, harry greb, sam langforde etc.....if he is top 3 one of them has to go so its hard to use logic to argue it in his defense TBRB are pretty legit man, but I personally thought Bradley was past his best anyway tbh. I think Pac would’ve been #1 after Mayweather’s retirement but you could plausibly argue, Thurman or Garcia should have been #2. Again it comes down to opinion.

exactly so they bring up how great todays fighters are and how they are the best of all time or top 3 and dont even know or have watched who the best prior so their no logic on leg toon the opinion to stand on Walker was an animal and talented...doubt we see someone start at lightweight and end fighting the worlds best heavyweights whilst picking up titles along the way many is a legend but he isnt on the mount rushmore of boxing its hard to put Mayweather and Manny top ten let alone top 3 without looking crazy Why would it be crazy to put them in the top 10 ATG list, but it’s not crazy to somehow have a top 100 ATG list? Like you already look ridiculous “making” these lists. It’s actually more believable and genuine if a fan of this era says that Jones, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Whitaker, Ali, Leonard, Duran, etc. are the best fighters they have ever seen and therefore are the top 7 ATG of boxing. That is way less ridiculous than having a fake top 100 ATG list spanning over 100 years of fighters. A lot of them that you’ve never seen and just read that they are good and that their opponent is good.

I totally understand. I'm starting to get frustrated with certain great fighters on lists every time, like it's a trend or something, and then never seeing other great fighters in any lists. It made me happy to see Wilde and Walker listed. I don't dispute Langford's greatness at all but he has become a common name, which is fine, but there's probably 20 or so guys I can respect as top tens. I'm not so hard on Floyd. Sometimes I like to rank him number one even, but I am openly bias for my own time. I'll say this, Floyd's probably the most professional fighter of all time. If SRR is sober he beats Floyd...if he's sober. So imo, in reality if Floyd and Sugar shared an era Floyd just waits until he's on the bottle to get him on Floyd's resume. :lol1: I did just spin cherry picking into a positive for that...so I see what you mean actually. Anyway, it's annoying seeing the same names. I like Mayweather, I like Pac, and Joe, Dre, and RJJ, I don't mind seeing any of those names actually, I just would like to see guys like Wilde and Walker get their respect too. Because if Floyd or Pac are top three all three of them damn sure are respectable choices as well. The only reason a lot of people these days have Langford in their top tens is because someone they respect told them about Langford. If they actually looked at Langford's era I don't see how they could not include Wilde...they overlap and they're clear as ****. It's stuff like that, that's starting to annoy me. I don't have an issue with Pac as top 3 actually, but, no one thinks guys like Tommy Ryan matter anymore? That's some bull. Great post dude...

if you are a big manny fan, thats cool but the record books show floyd beat him... - -Record shows TUE 51-0 ducked Manny for 6 years. And "beat" should be stricken from every Sissyboy fight. He touched Manny. Only thing Sissyboy beats is women and baby mamas. What grade U in now?

I aint top 3 but he is an ATG and possibly a top 20 guy. I mean put him in any era and hes great. Im a big Manny but a realistic one too... Hes not top 3 lol. Come on now We do not know if he’s top 20. Pacquiao could be top 3. Why is he top 20? Who are the 19 boxers who are better than him? And why? Did you see entire fight footage of all of these 19 boxers, and saw all the fight footage of all of these 19 boxers opponents to determine that they did indeed beat a good fighter? Or did you read or heard, some where, that there are 19 boxers better than Pacquiao? And are going based off what you read/heard? Maybe you saw a documentary saying that there are 19 boxers better than Pacquiao? Not even a Pacquiao fan whatsoever, just saying. We do not know, and will never know how good is Pacquiao, Mayweather, Jones Jr, Canelo, Duran, Chavez, Whitaker, Ali, compared to all the boxers in the entire history of professional boxing. Pacquiao could be the 3rd best boxer in history, for all we know.

I don’t know how any of you can have a top 100 ATG. You’d have to have been alive since boxing’s inception to gather all the information needed on every boxer in history in order to gather your own list of the 100 best boxers in history. Then there is also bias. What if the list you are copying comes from a bias spectator of that time? There is a lack of video footage for a lot of these boxers from the golden age, so a lot of you are basically going off literature instead of seeing it with your own eyes. Like people believing in Jesus. They believe because of literature. You are better of skipping the pretentious attitude of “I have a top 100 boxers of all time list” and just make your own list of fighters you have actually seen plenty of fights of. For example, if out of all the fighters you have seen in your life, even dating back to golden age footage, you think Pacquiao is #1 then whatever, Pacquiao is #1 for you. Not many can tell you otherwise, especially those going by literature and a very small amount of footage. Saying “oh but this dude in 1903 beat this guy who was champion for a very long time. I read about this, and I read the details of the fight, and that dude who won is pretty good. I can tell why he is considered #4 best of all time!” So wait, you read that he’s good and that he beat another fighter who is considered good? You didn’t actually see the fight? Lol. You need to take writer bias into account. For example, look at all the bias these writers show today. It’s ridiculous how they sh/t on some fighters and praise others. What if I think that prime Roy Jones can beat any fighter in history from 154 to 175, P4P, as long as he is still prime, all things equal. I think Roy Jones Jr is the #1 best boxer in “my” history. You’re really going to come at me with something like, but Sam Langford doe! When you know damn well, looking at highlight footage of Langford, that Roy Jones Jr would absolutely mop the floor with that guy? Fans are gonna have to start being real and make top 100 lists based on what they have actually seen, and not what they have read about or heard about. Nobody is going to believe that some 40 year old forum poster has a list of the top 100 best boxers in history from the 1800s to present, which he gathered himself, and knows for certain that that list is very accurate and has no bias whatsoever. Be real.