1. Tyson Fury defeats Klitschko by nullifying his most dangerous weapon; its a masterclass. Joshua beats Ruiz by nullifying his most dangerous weapon; he ran?
The only counter argument is that Klitschko is/was a higher level fighter than Ruiz is now or likely ever will be. However, nullifying your opponents main offensive skills in order to win by a WIDE margin can only be a masterclass or running away. It cannot be both.
2. All boxing fans will say that Wilder needed to change his style (if thats possible) to beat Fury - but say that Joshua ran from Ruiz when he changed his style to win. Fury changed his approach in order to beat Wilder too.
3. Deontay Wilder knocks out Luis Ortiz, twice. Luis Ortiz was 40 at the time of the rematch - why do Wilder fans say that Joshua's KO of Klitschko was because he was too old!? There is no comparison between Ortiz and Klitschko. Then...why do Fury fans say that Fury will wipe Joshua out when Fury didn't come close to knocking Klit out?
All undeniable double standards.
Because he said he was going to come and knock Ruiz out, and instead he ran for 12 rounds from someone significantly smaller than him. Would have been like if Canelo fought Manny Pacquao and had been on the back foot the whole night.
oh... well if he really said that he's puzzy
Why would Joshua choose to walk Ruiz down in the rematch when that's the main reason he got knocked out in the first fight?
Because he said he was going to come and knock Ruiz out, and instead he ran for 12 rounds from someone significantly smaller than him. Would have been like if Canelo fought Manny Pacquao and had been on the back foot the whole night.
Why are certain opinions guys said and generalizing entire fanbases?
1. People (not me) gave Joshua shyt cuz he lost to a late replacement, got destroyed. Then came into the rematch and seemed to be scared to engage. If Wilder somehow refused to engage vs Fury in the rematch ge would get called a pssy.
2. I don't get why this wasn't apart of your first point.
Floyd fans had to deal with his performances being labeled as running. And Joshua aint half the fighter Floyd is!
Im 100% alot of Joshua fans were apart if the fans critiquing Floyd for running. I guess Joshua became above the running stigma once he did it. Which is a double standard.
3. Wlad was old and Joshua benefited from it. And Wilder to this day can't escape the criticism of fighting a guy "with high blood pressure" The difference is... Ortiz wasn't once the caliber of fighter Wlad was. If he was Wilder would have got the same criticism
Quit whining......
Regarding your first point bro, Wilder has no choice but to try and engage, he doesn't have a plan B fellah, he can't box.
Wilder has a s**t resume, s**t fans, lies, ducks, whines, makes excuses, lost to Fury twice. He is garbage bro - and a cowardly lying piece of s**t who says he wants to kill a man. What's to like? Seriously...he's a turd.
Why are certain opinions guys said and generalizing entire fanbases?
1. People (not me) gave Joshua shyt cuz he lost to a late replacement, got destroyed. Then came into the rematch and seemed to be scared to engage. If Wilder somehow refused to engage vs Fury in the rematch ge would get called a pssy.
2. I don't get why this wasn't apart of your first point.
Floyd fans had to deal with his performances being labeled as running. And Joshua aint half the fighter Floyd is!
Im 100% alot of Joshua fans were apart if the fans critiquing Floyd for running. I guess Joshua became above the running stigma once he did it. Which is a double standard.
3. Wlad was old and Joshua benefited from it. And Wilder to this day can't escape the criticism of fighting a guy "with high blood pressure" The difference is... Ortiz wasn't once the caliber of fighter Wlad was. If he was Wilder would have got the same criticism
Quit whining......
:beerchug:Thanks brotha, saved me the words
I think Joshua got so much $h!t about losing to Ruiz because of how much of an underdog Ruiz was in the 1st fight, also, he didn't just beat AJ, he smacked him around, I will give AJ credit for beating him in the 2nd fight, but that does not nullify the fact that he was KO'd by Ruiz, he was a huge favorite, it was a very big upset.
It's interesting when people say AJ was scared to engage Ruiz. It's about risk. If there's a 5% chance Ruiz could hurt AJ in an exchange, why risk it when you know you can easily outbox him?
The entire dynamic of what AJ was involved in, changed after he lost. The pbc wanted AJ out the way, suddenly Wilder was talking about ducking Fury and fighting Ruiz. Ruiz via al haymon was fking around and publically trying to trash Eddie Hearn and AJ.
You had the pbc talking about creating a new belt. You had Americans owning the world titles. AJ losing would have been a major L for boxing as a whole. So if i'm team AJ i'm telling him 'dont even think of messing around in there, dont take risks'.
I was more impressed with how AJ boxed. Most people didn't think he could do it. they said 'he cant learn to box in 6 months'.
White Americans don't like him cos he isn't American. Black Americans don't like him because he isn't the right type of black.
Who cares? American heavyweights are shyte.
I have never called his performance against Wladimir as a "Masterclass"..I have always said, you would struggle to see a 3 minutes highlight reel, where steady punches were landed. It is the way he wasn't intimidated by going to Wladimir along with all the advantages stacked in Wladimir's favour, that is more impressive.
You're a yank and over 50% of the men in your country are either phaggots or on the downlow. So saying the ho.moerotic stuffs you do behind closed doors isn't shocking. We don't get down like that in Great Britain.
You wilder fans are obsessed with Josh.
Yea ok.... But we in yet another thread about Wilder.
How many threads have you made about Wilder?
Lmfao..... I told TS i had no problem with his performance but because i aint slurp him off and agree with his entire whining ass post you came at me
Lmfao!!!!!!!! You a weird little bastard
If you don't have a problem with it, stay out of the thread and stop accusing the OP of hating when he's dropping facts.
Did i say he was hating? Lmfao u stay putting words in my mouth.
How bout u quit responding to me every time i don't join you and your Joshua blowbang.
You say u not biased but Everthing that comes out your mouth is fanboy shyt.. ( when it comes to Joshua)
I literally can hear Joshua's dck slide in out and your ass everytime u speak about Joshua.
Look at how Fury and Wilder handle rematches. They dominate and destroy, they don't run. Wilder lost his last rematch admittedly, but that was against the best boxer of the era.
Exactly
Fury went back to USA and made a real statement in the rematch
AJ fought the rematch on his own terms and location and never made much of a statement
AJ did what had to to get the belts back, fair play, but the two situations aren’t comparable
When has Wilder engaged a boxer on Ruiz level in his career?
The bum never even engaged all the 40 bums he fought. LMAO
I was responding to what he said.... I personally aint have no problem with his performance at all.
TS makes it seem like everyone feels the same way so i gave my opinion of why guys probably felt the way they did.
Even more, imagine what would be people talking about Joshua , if he went 12 rounds with somebody as bad as Stiverne ( like Wilder did), or with Wallin ( like Fury) or with Scott and hammer ( like Ortiz).
Only going to address point one because after reading it going any further would be a waste of time
Ruiz did destroy Joshua the first time, the second time Joshua learned that Ruiz can only beat him if he stands in front of him so he didn't stand in front of him and won 12-0
Why would he do literally the exact same thing that lost him the first fight and give Ruiz his only possible method of victory
You then **** on AJ for it because you hate him and wanted him to lose again
Period
Dumbass.... Anybody who checks my post history can tell you... I never had no problem with what Joshua did.
He did what he had to do... Why risk it?
Thats yall problem yall assume everybody thinks the same.... I can't even have my own opinion about things without being generalized.
Everyone knows ima Wilder fan but i awlways defended Joshua in tbe rematch! But yall dudes never around when i give unbiased opinions! Or give props to the opposing side!
Yall are annoying asf
This first sentence i said ( not me) as in thats not my personal opinion.
Look at how Fury and Wilder handle rematches. They dominate and destroy, they don't run. Wilder lost his last rematch admittedly, but that was against the best boxer of the era.
On #2 Fury changed his style and got aggressive and took the fight to Wilder.AJ changed his style by running away and refusing to engage a blubbering sweaty snicker bar eating fat guy.
Why would Joshua choose to walk Ruiz down in the rematch when that's the main reason he got knocked out in the first fight?