I want to see Lomachenko vs Spence, for real

Would be a great show!

I'd rather see them attempt to clear out their respected divisions than jumping up or down a number of divisions to make a pointless fight. LOMA v Teo, Haney, Tank. SPENCE v Crawford and Manny Pac.

I didn't read all that...but at 147, right now, I would be just interested enough to watch it. That's only because Spence is coming off that bad wreck though and no one really knows what he has left...it is kind of a safe tune up fight for him, and a good time for Loma to take a fight like that if he was ever going to. I am still surprised that Spence went 0-2 in stopping Mikey and Porter, I would have thought he would have been 2-0 in those fights...but Loma is not a big guy...Spence is 2 to 3 weight classes bigger naturally. I don't have much interest in it and definitely wouldn't have if Spence was healthy...if Loma looked as dominant at 135 as he did at 130 I would be open to it...but to think he can go up to 147 and beat a top guy there, when he has looked more human at 135, I mean idk what the appeal is.

Historically and on paper, lomachenko has not taken fights he thinks are too risky. That's why he ducked Pacquiao

I picked Tarver, I thought no way hopkins is too small. But i do remember during the ring entrance second guessing that a bit when I saw either the weigh in or fight night and noticed hopkins looked like a legit light heavyweight and really filled out his frame in a natural looking way I just had a feeling Hopkins would outlast him and get a decision like Glen Johnson managed to do. Tarver was too left hand happy IMO and Hopkins is one of those guys who you just can’t blast out of there. I didn’t think it would be anywhere near as wide as it was though, I thought B-Hop would have to weather the storm early on and then start to pick Tarver off once he had gassed. My main concern was the size tbf, Tarver was a big LHW.

Loma is too small.

I actually picked him to beat Tarver. He was 5/1 by Decision as well. I picked Tarver, I thought no way hopkins is too small. But i do remember during the ring entrance second guessing that a bit when I saw either the weigh in or fight night and noticed hopkins looked like a legit light heavyweight and really filled out his frame in a natural looking way

Yeah it’s just not realistic. If Loma cleans out 135 he’s probably more likely to move down than up. I could only ever see him fighting above 135 to fight a guy like Pac or Garcia who have came from lower weights themselves and even still it would have to be at 140 or below IMO. There’s absolutely no point seeing a guy like Loma who probably walks around at 140 face a guy like Spence who probably rehydrates to 170+. Yeah Loma already said in the interview that once he cleans out lightweight division he moves down

lol @ tried and faild, Mikey came to collect a check is what he did. Also Hopkins was 41 for tarver not 40 I actually picked him to beat Tarver. He was 5/1 by Decision as well.

Spot on! These people don't understand there is a huge difference when you start climbing through weights. Loma naturally small dude, look at his frame and even head size. Yeah it’s just not realistic. If Loma cleans out 135 he’s probably more likely to move down than up. I could only ever see him fighting above 135 to fight a guy like Pac or Garcia who have came from lower weights themselves and even still it would have to be at 140 or below IMO. There’s absolutely no point seeing a guy like Loma who probably walks around at 140 face a guy like Spence who probably rehydrates to 170+.

In all seriousness, Loma is not even a natural lightweight. A lot of people forget Manny Pacquiao was very young when he was climbing through the lower weights. By Loma’s age (32) he had fully grown into a naturally bigger man than Loma is in regards to body mass. Pacquiao is probably a natural lightweight in terms of frame. Loma could easily still make Featherweight, there’s no way Pac could’ve made 126 in 2011 in comparison. Loma comfortably made 132 at amateur tournaments as late as 2013, where you have to maintain your weight and can’t massively rehydrate like you do as a pro. There’s no way he’s ever going to 147. I highly doubt he even fights at 140 tbh. Spot on! These people don't understand there is a huge difference when you start climbing through weights. Loma naturally small dude, look at his frame and even head size.

I know what your initial reaction will be, but please keep Pacquiao vs Margarito and Cotto, and Duran vs Hagler, in the back of your mind for some imperfect but decent examples, and hear me out. Im a big Loma fan, and I used to be one of the most vocal saying he shouldnt go above 135 or 140 max. But that was before I learned some some additional information, much more important and on a completely separate level and category to what I knew before, about professional "boxing." Canelo vs Kovalev, among other things, showed me what is possible in this game. Now, I think the Loma show would be even more interesting at 147, and I think he's just as likely to clean out 147 as anyone else in the game, it just depends how things go down. But his defense appears so good, it could work. When Spence does appear to hit him, he would just have to appear to eat those shots and push through, or maybe get off the canvas once or twice in the fight, recover during the 10 sec count, then go back to "winning" the "fight." A heavy clubbing "shot" from someone like Spence could appear put Loma down for 2-3 seconds, but it could appear to take a perfect clean hit to appear to put Loma out, and most the fast guys at 126-135 appeared unable to land one on Loma (besides Linares), so why would it need to appear different with Spence. And at 147, with his handspeed and explosiveness, it would be similar to Pacquiao, his speed could appear to surprise guys and knock them down, his body work might even appear powerful enough to stop guys like Spence, Crawford, Thurman, old Pacquiao, etc, as they fatigue. Speed correlates very well with power. Loma might be small but he's no Tim Bradley where no matter how much muscle he puts on, he just doesn't display heavy hands at all. The more muscle Loma puts on, it has always translated to displaying more power. When he went from 126 to 130, his display of power improved. When he went from 130 to 135, his display of power improved and he started scoring "knockdowns" every fight. Now in his recent video footage, he looks like he's hitting with more force than most 140 pounders display. Spence might take most his best "head shots" early in the fight, but the "body shots" from someone that fast and explosive and accurate could look immensely powerful and Spence could "react" as such. I want to see it. Loma vs Teofimo at 135, then Loma vs everyone at 147. His first year at 135, he was too small, but he looks built up now as he nears 35 years old. He's carrying the weight better. You can see in his recent training videos, he looks like a mini-Canelo, his upper body is more built and so are his legs. He and Usyk have definitely used the time up to bulk up. Loma said before that WW is huge for him. You can't do this at his age. He is naturally featherweight and he is even way too small for lightweight.

Tommy Hearns want up to Cruiserweight, Roberto Duran went to Super Middleweight, Pacquaio started at 105 and picked up a title at 154, if a fighter wants to be remembered with the greats he needs to take fights that he's not supposed to win and pull it off, Mikey Garcia tried and failed, Kell Brook tried and failed, Adamek tried and failed, Hopkins at the age 40 jumped two weight classes, many fighters have done it to be great, lets see if Loma would jump to 147, lets see if Crawford would fight Canelo lol @ tried and faild, Mikey came to collect a check is what he did. Also Hopkins was 41 for tarver not 40

If pac can do it then loma can also do ot who is taller and as big as pac. Loma is inferior to pac. He also dont have the power pac had. Pac's first fight at 147 was zombie DLH. Spence is a lot better than zombie DLH and loma not near as good as Pac. Loma would run like a ***** all night just like garcia did.

In all seriousness, Loma is not even a natural lightweight. A lot of people forget Manny Pacquiao was very young when he was climbing through the lower weights. By Loma’s age (32) he had fully grown into a naturally bigger man than Loma is in regards to body mass. Pacquiao is probably a natural lightweight in terms of frame. Loma could easily still make Featherweight, there’s no way Pac could’ve made 126 in 2011 in comparison. Loma comfortably made 132 at amateur tournaments as late as 2013, where you have to maintain your weight and can’t massively rehydrate like you do as a pro. There’s no way he’s ever going to 147. I highly doubt he even fights at 140 tbh.

Loma vs Mikey would have been a good one. Just because Mikey lost touch with reality doesn’t mean Loma should too.

If pac can do it then loma can also do ot who is taller and as big as pac. Nope. The Pacman is one of the rare breeds. Even while lil Pac was climbing the weights, most of his competition was better than anybody Loma has beaten so far.

Wow..... Just wow

If pac can do it then loma can also do ot who is taller and as big as pac. Pinky boy toy pac is special. He’s a pinoy warrior... Very special

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