What am I not seeing? What's the rush?
If I saw otherworldly skills and attributes, like I see in Davis for example, I'd be pushing him hard. I don't. Why is Hearn rushing him? He's not ready for Davis or Loma, not even close. I can see him beating the rest. Get to them one by one. Put in the time.
I'll get back to Haney in a few years.
Let him clean up your bums first, Hearn, like Campbell and Crolla.
What am I not seeing? What's the rush?
If I saw otherworldly skills and attributes, like I see in Davis for example, I'd be pushing him hard. I don't. Why is Hearn rushing him? He's not ready for Davis or Loma, not even close. I can see him beating the rest. Get to them one by one. Put in the time.
I'll get back to Haney in a few years.
Let him clean up your bums first, Hearn, like Campbell and Crolla.
Didn’t he just avoid a fight with Campbell? He should at least gauge where he is at fighting tough but common opponents who Loma has fought but it seems he just wants to jump in the deep end whilst fighting no one of note. Teo earned the fight.
I think teofimo is one or two years older than Garcia and Haney so I think they will be fighting at his level of oposition when they have his age. Or they should, at least. I just checked and he is 1-1.5 years older.
Yeah they’re all about the same age I think, personally I don’t see Garcia and Haney taking the same step up in competition that Teofimo has. I think Oscar and Hearn will try and match these two a lot more carefully. I’d actually like to see Haney and Garcia fight each other, it would be a good test for both and the winner would become a legit contender.
Do you think Haney and Garcia really want them though, it’s all well and good saying I want to fight the top guys but when you’re fighting the Fonesca’s and Santiago’s of this world it hardly backs up what you’re saying.
Full credit to Teofimo, great performance against Commey and now he fights Loma in a huge unification fight.
I think teofimo is one or two years older than Garcia and Haney so I think they will be fighting at his level of oposition when they have his age. Or they should, at least. I just checked and he is 1-1.5 years older.
I dont feel haney is going to get thrown to the wolves yet I think maybe after a tune up he may be in line for Campbell fortuna winner but I dont consider that thrown to the wolves in either of those possible fights, I feel hes ready for either provided he has a solid high level tune up who can give him some rounds first . Loma I think haney could compete with in the next year for sure . Wasnt haney talking about moving up recently ?? I think he should wait that out unless he cant make weight anymore. I think in a year or so devan will be as ready as he ever will be for davis or Loma. Not sure he beats either but iam sure he can make competitive fights . I think his style is all wrong for Loma but again I think hes def a level or so below , I think his style will give Loma problems but not get handy the W . But he is definately a very talented young fighter . I would pick him over Garcia right now but that could def be a huge fight at jr welter or welter down the road. They have the angle of their amaury rivalry for the promotion too . Come to think of it at 135 I would favor haney over tank unless tank could catch him cold . I dont like tank at 35 . I think he should still be at 130 and would love to see the LSC fight take place there
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Teofimo, Haney and Garcia seem to want the big fights soon. That's ok, they are guys that in a few years will be campaigning at 147. They need to accomplish things at 135.
Davis doesn't have a future outside 135 I think. He's too small for 147.
Besides that possible explanation, there's another one. In boxing, historically, once you are a world champion, you are ready to fight any other world champion. Haney won't be thrown to the wolves anyway, I think. Specially not after coming off shoulder injury.
Do you think Haney and Garcia really want them though, it’s all well and good saying I want to fight the top guys but when you’re fighting the Fonesca’s and Santiago’s of this world it hardly backs up what you’re saying.
Full credit to Teofimo, great performance against Commey and now he fights Loma in a huge unification fight.
I respect all that. I was gonna ask you about the rumored Cruz fight. You've already answered. How much of a chance do you give Cruz, at 130?
I think it’s a 50/50 type matchup, especially at 130 considering Gervonta will possibly have trouble making the limit. At 135 I lean towards Tank as I think LSC will be moving up unnaturally.
Should be a good fight regardless though, I could actually see it being controversial as on one hand you have the volume and effective aggression of Santa Cruz and on other hand the efficiency and accuracy of Davis. It somewhat reminds me of Mayweather-Castillo.
I'm not sure I have to ask Arum when Mayweather himself said he will make Loma wait.
Floyd isn't Davis. Please separate them. Floyd is a dictator and a little bitch.
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Teofimo, Haney and Garcia seem to want the big fights soon. That's ok, they are guys that in a few years will be campaigning at 147. They need to accomplish things at 135.
Davis doesn't have a future outside 135 I think. He's too small for 147.
Besides that possible explanation, there's another one. In boxing, historically, once you are a world champion, you are ready to fight any other world champion. Haney won't be thrown to the wolves anyway, I think. Specially not after coming off shoulder injury.
Lopez and Loma are supposed to be fighting. Hopefully Davis fights a good lightweight, even a tough journeyman at least, instead of Cruz next.
I'd say Gervonta's ceiling is welter. 135 or 140 would be his best weights. He can fight at 130 now, if he dedicated himself. He's destructive at 130.
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Teofimo, Haney and Garcia seem to want the big fights soon. That's ok, they are guys that in a few years will be campaigning at 147. They need to accomplish things at 135.
Davis doesn't have a future outside 135 I think. He's too small for 147.
Besides that possible explanation, there's another one. In boxing, historically, once you are a world champion, you are ready to fight any other world champion. Haney won't be thrown to the wolves anyway, I think. Specially not after coming off shoulder injury.
Not every fighter is managed like yours. Your guy could have fought Loma already.
What I am talking about with Haney is readiness for the elite. I don't see it yet. I'll keep watching him the next few years.
I wanted Davis to be thrown to the wolves (Loma) since 2016/2017, when Davis was 21/22, your boys here know. I don't get involved in the politics of boxing. Davis is at a different level.
I kind of agree tbh man, he’s unquestionably very talented but I don’t see him as a guy you should just throw to the wolves. His best win is probably beating whatever was left of Juan Carlos Burgos. Talking about him facing Loma next is absolute lunacy IMO.
I like the idea of Haney facing Ryan Garcia, I think the winner of Campbell/Fortuna would be a solid test also.
As for Tank, I was really impressed with the way he beat Pedraza and then I was actually at his next fight where he destroyed Liam Walsh, however if anything he’s gone backwards, his opposition has been lacklustre and he didn’t exactly make a huge statement against a 38 yr old Gamboa. Tank is a guy who I think is ready to be thrown to the wolves so we can find out how good he actually is. I like the LSC fight, especially if it’s at 130.
I respect all that. I was gonna ask you about the rumored Cruz fight. You've already answered. How much of a chance do you give Cruz, at 130?
What am I not seeing? What's the rush?
If I saw otherworldly skills and attributes, like I see in Davis for example, I'd be pushing him hard. I don't. Why is Hearn rushing him? He's not ready for Davis or Loma, not even close. I can see him beating the rest. Get to them one by one. Put in the time.
I'll get back to Haney in a few years.
Let him clean up your bums first, Hearn, like Campbell and Crolla.
Not every fighter is managed like yours. Your guy could have fought Loma already.
What am I not seeing? What's the rush?
If I saw otherworldly skills and attributes, like I see in Davis for example, I'd be pushing him hard. I don't. Why is Hearn rushing him? He's not ready for Davis or Loma, not even close. I can see him beating the rest. Get to them one by one. Put in the time.
I'll get back to Haney in a few years.
Let him clean up your bums first, Hearn, like Campbell and Crolla.
I kind of agree tbh man, he’s unquestionably very talented but I don’t see him as a guy you should just throw to the wolves. His best win is probably beating whatever was left of Juan Carlos Burgos. Talking about him facing Loma next is absolute lunacy IMO.
I like the idea of Haney facing Ryan Garcia, I think the winner of Campbell/Fortuna would be a solid test also.
As for Tank, I was really impressed with the way he beat Pedraza and then I was actually at his next fight where he destroyed Liam Walsh, however if anything he’s gone backwards, his opposition has been lacklustre and he didn’t exactly make a huge statement against a 38 yr old Gamboa. Tank is a guy who I think is ready to be thrown to the wolves so we can find out how good he actually is. I like the LSC fight, especially if it’s at 130.