I don't mean ring IQ (whatever the **** that is lol)
I mean actual intelligence. For smartest I'd say Joe Joyce and Nathan Cleverly. I think both have degrees in fine art and maths respectively.
For stupidest: Beyonce Wilder. Dumbest person ever. Seemingly cant think
Smart is not equal to educated which is not equal to degree holder.
Smartest: Floyd Mayweather, Pacquiao, Lennox Lewis, Foreman, Fury, Klitchsko.
Dumbest: Ruiz Jr., Holyfied, Mike Tyson, Andrew Golata, Dillian Whyte, Briggs
No doubt, but how many boxers have been too careless and lost a lot of their money? Too many
At least he was smart enough to invest
Right.
On the other hand, Mike Tyson is the most obvious example of being careless with money. And yet I think of him as an intelligent man. Money just didn't matter to him.
Well, with that kind of money all it takes is finding the right partners to do big business.
No doubt, but how many boxers have been too careless and lost a lot of their money? Too many
At least he was smart enough to invest
What do all of the fighters you think are smart have in common? What do all of the fighters you think are stupid have in common?
I noticed that too.
But the thing is that it isn't wrong either.
I'll add some balance.
Mayweather is obviously very smart.
Kovalev and Pulev are dumb as rocks.
Maybe but he’s made a killing in business with investments in oil and all kinds of things
Well, with that kind of money all it takes is finding the right partners to do big business.
Naseem Hamed ranks among the dumbest. He even caused a serious accident once, injuring people badly, while recklessly driving a sport car.
Maybe but he’s made a killing in business with investments in oil and all kinds of things
Two you've mentioned are smart, klitschkos too, malignaggi and fury always seemed switched on. Most stupid are more easier to identify - Broner wilder spence charlos tank. Not a brain cell between them.
mmhahahahah so true,
Not exactly.
One became a senator through popularity, the other became a strip club owner through money.
Popularity/wealth =\= intelligence
As a senator he still needs to put in the work. Decision making, budget analysis, utilization of resources, negotiating, etc., require knowledge and discretion. Floyd throws money at a failed strip club and hires some dupe to run it into the ground for him. You do know he is borderline illiterate right?
Got to give it to Mayweather as the smartest (The fact that he doesn’t have a high educational background) but still able to make good business decisions outside (Boxing career-wise)...
The dumbest? Look no further than Wilder, never seen a boxer soooo phucking dumb. Like literally the dumbest with everything.
Jack Johnson is the smartest boxer of all time, he's the sole inventor amongst them.
Primo for the dumbest, forgiving time-based beliefs like meat and beer are good for pre-fight meals or scientific racism, guys like Sully are the poorest educated, but, Primo's basically just a puppet. Thoughtless, or, unconcerned, take your pick.
Tunney also has a degree like K2. I'm not sure it was a doctorate, but, I remember being impressed. If it's important ot interesting to you, look up Tunney, he is educated.
Kid McCoy for backhanded cleverness. Kid did things like going to Peter Maher, the KO King of the 1890s, and warning him before the fight their match is merely an exhibition, no power stuff, no knocking the crap out of each other. Kid's about twenty pounds smaller than Pete. Peter agrees and acts real nice through out. Then Kid just turns it up and puts Peter on his ass. "Deceitful Spaleen!" Peter yells as he hits the deck. I remember the quote 'cause it's funny as hell in an olde timey manner.
In another case Kid went to Tommy Ryan to get a title fight from him. Ryan was uninterested but Kid presented himself to Ryan looking sickly and talking about how he just needs money for medical bills. Ryan agrees to take the fight and does little training or prep work thinking it basically a fix. Kid shows up fight night looking fierce while Tom simply shows up. Yes, Kid McCoy became champion that fight.
on top of stuff like that McCoy added to boxing with techniques like the corkscrew punch that remains a staple in boxing for only the best and elite.
Jack Johnson - Added to man's toolbox
Tunney/K2 - Have nice pieces of paper that suggest they could maybe add to man's toolbox.
Kid - A ****ster who tended to get away with his exploits.
:lol1: You just hadda leave that dangling there didn't you?
http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=1413121&id=16731
I'd never heard of that one before.
Some of the dumbest; Duran
There is a story of Duran picking up a cat by its tail and smashing it against a wall, in the middle of an interview or something
I think it takes more intelligence to be a Senator than a strip-club owner. Some people work to better themselves, others are blissfully dumb.
Not exactly.
One became a senator through popularity, the other became a strip club owner through money.
Popularity/wealth =\= intelligence
I don't mean ring IQ (whatever the **** that is lol)
I mean actual intelligence. For smartest I'd say Joe Joyce and Nathan Cleverly. I think both have degrees in fine art and maths respectively.
For stupidest: Beyonce Wilder. Dumbest person ever. Seemingly cant think
Most intelligent: Alvarez since he got Retirement $ from DAZN, HBO, ShowTime
Dumbest: Kovalev for being a thug who can't stay out of trouble
Frank isn't dumb **** off. He just had mental health problems.
Mental health and intelligence aren't related at all. His mental health problems in later life were a completely different thing.
I'm a big Bruno fan - very underrated and his record should speak for itself. Particularly when you look at who defeated him, at what level, and how.
But he wasn't blessed in the brains department at all.
All PED users are stupid, no exception, first of all.
Unfortunately for Poles, Andrzej Golota comes to mind. He had Bowe on his knees TWICE in TWO INDEPENDENT FIGHTS.