Now that we see how pressure/toughness is the real key to beating Wilder we know that AJ doesn't have that ability or style, and what we saw in his last fight was a combination of fear and boxing from long range. Bad recipe against Wilder even though he's got better fundamentals.
He will have 12 rounds to time Joshua and land one of his bombs and it will certainly result in a TKO. Joshua can't pull the trigger anymore and Wilder remains tough to finish. I don't see how you can be sure AJ has the upperhand, it's like one loss against an arguable ATG HW has everyone writing Wilder off.
Your tiny brain actually. I described it that way earlier and it's more accurate.
As for this notion that I'm a Wilder fan, I like him as a fighter. As a person he is cringy and an embarassment a lot of times so I'd say you're correct on that. But I am able to seperate the person and the fighter. As adults you should be able to do that but most NSB posters are children in adult bodies who worship boxers like a cult.
Bro you’re in no position to be commenting on the size of brains.... you don’t even have the intelligence to have a discussion without resorting to playground insults like “small brain” and “tiny brain”. But good on you for being able to separate the fighter from the person, that does require a small amount of intelligence. You must have at least made it through 3rd grade.
My small brain? :lol1:
This is coming from someone that is using the Ruiz fight to explain to us why Wilder would beat Joshua.
Wilder is a simpleton and it’s clear that he attracts fans of similar intelligence levels.
Your tiny brain actually. I described it that way earlier and it's more accurate.
As for this notion that I'm a Wilder fan, I like him as a fighter. As a person he is cringy and an embarassment a lot of times so I'd say you're correct on that. But I am able to seperate the person and the fighter. As adults you should be able to do that but most NSB posters are children in adult bodies who worship boxers like a cult.
Now that we see how pressure/toughness is the real key to beating Wilder we know that AJ doesn't have that ability or style, and what we saw in his last fight was a combination of fear and boxing from long range. Bad recipe against Wilder even though he's got better fundamentals.
He will have 12 rounds to time Joshua and land one of his bombs and it will certainly result in a TKO. Joshua can't pull the trigger anymore and Wilder remains tough to finish. I don't see how you can be sure AJ has the upperhand, it's like one loss against an arguable ATG HW has everyone writing Wilder off.
Solid post. I think it’s a shootout but I favour Wilder to land first.
There’s a reason Team AJ never made that fight and probably never will.
Unfortunately with posts like this all you’ll attract is the obsessive AJ groupies who’ll try and claim Wilder is a “bum” cause he lost to the BEST HW in the world despite the fact the mighty AJ lost to Andy Ruiz Jr.
Well they still have to Fight! Triangle Theories Mean Sh#t in boxing
Ali Beat Foreman, Frazier beats Ali, Foreman Destroys Frazier...I can go on and on about history and how Triangle Theories are a JOKE and they mean nothing. Fury success was FURY'S SUCCESS not the rest of the Division. Nobody Else currently is 6'9 270 and as skilled and slipper and slick as Fury not even close
Groupie Fan Boys use Triangle Theories to protect their Man Crush/Favorite Fighters. If your favorite fighter is a good as you say then fans should want to see them vs EVERYBODY instead of picking and choosing fights for them and wanting to keep them away from certain fighters
I 100% Believe these Fighters have far more Testicular Fortitude than the people that Root For and Worship them which is why they're fighters and most of their fans are Fat F#cks who sit on the internet all day PRETENDING to be tough
So Yeah, I still want to see AJ vs Wilder and Eddie Hearn also confirmed that yeah that is still a Massive Fight regardless of both suffering defeats now
Your problem seems to be that your small brain is making assumptions.
First take a deep breath, wipe the foam from your mouth and listen.
Two things: Nobody said Wilder has a great chin(And having a better chin than Joshua still doesn't mean you have a great chin. LOL). And nobody said Fury is a knockout artist. All of those claims came from..who do you think? Hold a mirror in front of you to get the answer.
Let that sink in for a while. try to let rational thought seep through that head and maybe we can come to a better understanding. Maybe. Probably not though.
My small brain? :lol1:
This is coming from someone that is using the Ruiz fight to explain to us why Wilder would beat Joshua.
Wilder is a simpleton and it’s clear that he attracts fans of similar intelligence levels.
Or maybe Fury is still an average puncher and Wilder doesn’t have a very good chin?
Just a thought, Valuev was also an average puncher despite being 7ft and 300+ pounds.
I mean the guy has been dropped by Scorniers and Nichols, hurt by Ortiz, Molina, Breazeale. It seems you guys just want to look at things with Rose tinted glasses. Wilder has heart but a good chin he does not possess. Fury hasn’t suddenly become the second coming of Lennox Lewis overnight.
But we can agree to disagree.
Your problem seems to be that your small brain is making assumptions.
First take a deep breath, wipe the foam from your mouth and listen.
Two things: Nobody said Wilder has a great chin(And having a better chin than Joshua still doesn't mean you have a great chin. LOL). And nobody said Fury is a knockout artist. All of those claims came from..who do you think? Hold a mirror in front of you to get the answer.
Let that sink in for a while. try to let rational thought seep through that head and maybe we can come to a better understanding. Maybe. Probably not though.
Wilder's chin is much better than Joshua's and more importantly he has a lot of heart and can recover well, something AJ doesn't have.
If these two fight and both get hurt, Wilder will stay on his feet and recover. If Aj is the one hurt he will be decked and quit again.
Did I imagine AJ getting knocked down and hurt vs Wlad only to come back and KO him?
No heart doe.. can't recover doe
What a load of BS
Wilder only hope is too land a big right because everyone knows he cant box for **** and has been protected his whole career.. even the first fury fight was an absolute cherry pick.. but sadly for Wilder and co Fury even after a 2 year coke binge was too good for him
Whoever called Fury pillow fisted probably has an exceptionally small brain in the first place. Sometimes a boxer changing styles can display attributes that we otherwise did not know he had.
An athletic 6'9 270 pound boxer who knows exactly how to punch, is not "pillow fisted" in any universe.
Or maybe Fury is still an average puncher and Wilder doesn’t have a very good chin?
Just a thought, Valuev was also an average puncher despite being 7ft and 300+ pounds.
I mean the guy has been dropped by Scorniers and Nichols, hurt by Ortiz, Molina, Breazeale. It seems you guys just want to look at things with Rose tinted glasses. Wilder has heart but a good chin he does not possess. Fury hasn’t suddenly become the second coming of Lennox Lewis overnight.
But we can agree to disagree.
Its boxing, everyone is a bum except for two people:
1) My personal favorite fighter
2) The Champ...whose a cheat (unless he's my personal favorite)
Its true though, there are people who are in the top 10 in their weight class who are constantly called bums by fans on here, either directly, or by calling the people who beat them bumkillers.
Its a thin line between being great and being a bum in the eyes of boxing fans.
I agree and thank you for proving my point.
Fury now has to be this murderous puncher in order for them to make sense of it. Don't get me wrong I've always thought Fury at least had respectable power sort of like Floyd/Ward where he can at least get the attention of his opponents if not hurt them.
Have you ever seen a situation where a guy came into the ring pillow fisted but left it as a huge knockout puncher? :lol1:
Whoever called Fury pillow fisted probably has an exceptionally small brain in the first place. Sometimes a boxer changing styles can display attributes that we otherwise did not know he had.
An athletic 6'9 270 pound boxer who knows exactly how to punch, is not "pillow fisted" in any universe.
So you are picking Joshua to win then? 100% certain of it?
Haha I don't think Robbie Barrett is the type of goon to be certain of anything. At times he's probably confused where he's at currently or even who he is.
Andy landed 56 punches on AJ and dropped him four times.
Fury landed 82 punches on Wilder and dropped him twice.
AJ refused to continue. Wilder was stopped by a towel.
This fight was different than his usual ones, kid. For one he applied pressure and came forward, he had the intention to knock his opponent out instead of sticking and moving. And he was much bigger and stronger than usual. Maybe one day you will know what you're looking at. Fury had his feet planted, correctly threw his weight into those shots and the impact was pretty devastating. All visual. One day you may be able to spot these things yourself.
Fury would have knocked Joshua down atleast 3 times and the ref would have counted him out.
Dont you think theres a possibility Fury walked him down like that because he realized how vulnerable Wilder actually is? I dont think its likely Fury approaches a Joshua fight the same way, he'd certainly have a harder time bullying Joshua in the clinch.
Stop it. Your boy is a bum. B..b...but his dress was too heavy. :rofl:
He will have 12 rounds? He got stopped by a pillow puncher ffs.
edit: TS has put me on ignore now. :rofl: Weak sauce.
edit: edit: TS now claiming Wilder can recover well? WTF? He was stumbling around for 4 rounds against Fury. What a tard.
So you are picking Joshua to win then? 100% certain of it?
Yeah this myth of Wilder's great chin and punch recovery is ridiculous, thought it died after he spent more time on floor in last fight then standing up but obviously not.
Fury now has to be this murderous puncher in order for them to make sense of it. Don't get me wrong I've always thought Fury at least had respectable power sort of like Floyd/Ward where he can at least get the attention of his opponents if not hurt them.
Have you ever seen a situation where a guy came into the ring pillow fisted but left it as a huge knockout puncher? :lol1:
What ****ing planet do u live on, you seriously watched his last fight and think his chins good? Everyone was saying fury couldn't stop him, wilder himself said he can't punch yet he hurt wilder over and over again. He would have been stopped in first ortiz fight if ref didn't buy him time, something they tried to do again in this fight. Reason he hasn't been stopped more is cause they've kept him away from punchers, look at his resume.
This fight was different than his usual ones, kid. For one he applied pressure and came forward, he had the intention to knock his opponent out instead of sticking and moving. And he was much bigger and stronger than usual. Maybe one day you will know what you're looking at. Fury had his feet planted, correctly threw his weight into those shots and the impact was pretty devastating. All visual. One day you may be able to spot these things yourself.
Fury would have knocked Joshua down atleast 3 times and the ref would have counted him out.
Wilder is likely on to a dead end, especially if he fights Fury again (and most probably loses). I see him retiring after a second loss. Unless aj loses too and they make the bout to renew interest in themselves.
If they ever fight, the best chance for aj would be fighting like he did vs Klitschko. If he does like he did vs ruiz (both matches) he goes ko.
Ok so who's not a bum then?
Its boxing, everyone is a bum except for two people:
1) My personal favorite fighter
2) The Champ...whose a cheat (unless he's my personal favorite)
Its true though, there are people who are in the top 10 in their weight class who are constantly called bums by fans on here, either directly, or by calling the people who beat them bumkillers.
Its a thin line between being great and being a bum in the eyes of boxing fans.
It’s a easy fight for joshua wilder isn’t much cop he’s just a protected bum who fights no ones bar 95 year old Cubans that he hyped as being good wilder is legit a D level fighter with a level power
The amount of power punches he took from a 270lb man while staying on his feet was remarkable. I lied about what? Quit trolling kid, if you want to learn just ask me directly. Here I'll answer your questions: Tyson Fury most certainly can punch. Wilder can certainly take a shot. You certainly don't know much about boxing. Oh I you didn't ask that last one, I just figured I taught you another thing you should know.
You mean pillow fisted Fury?
Wallin took Fury's best punches