The amount of posters on here saying Wilder is a bum

To much logic in this topic lol. Fury is now a legend for besting a guy supposedly vastly inferior to him lol.

Sooo.. he has no foot work, he has no defensive skills, he has no head movement, he has no proper jab...he swings around in hope to land the right which is basically the only "skill" he has. He blames the bashing he received on his costume lol !! What do you want boxing fans to do? Lie and call him a good fighter just so his fans are comforted? He is a fkn bum nothing more, skill wise he has nothing and the last fight proved it, as a human being he's garbage..a scumbag who talked about killing his opponents. Do you want us to tell you how great of a fighter and how nice of a human being he is despite all those things? You people need to get of his nuts seriously lol

Young new generation fans, their guy is the best so lets rubbish everyone else, its hero worship and youth ego combined Nothing new here, same ol love hate fest. The super HWs of this generation I dont think are very good fighters, there size has become more relevant to winning than their skillset and I doubt you will ever get a great WW, a great LW or great MW etc that is as miss made as these monster HWs, there bodies are so unbalanced they can never be truly great fighters, they are competing against the same so it levels out, but no way could they compete at top level in the lower weights if they stayed the same just was say 160. Good post man thanks...it really is hard to say where HWs ever stand in a 'pfp' type scenario.

Tyson Flappy. Not convinced yet to jump on that wagon until I no longer see Flappy gloves in his fights. Can't believe people are Okay with this hack win.

yet in the same breath, making a shrine for Fury, changing their avatars to his picture, saying how great he is etc. I mean do you guys not realize how stupid you all look. So Wilder is this huge bum...and Fury a king for beating him...yet officially Fury has one win and one draw over Wilder - getting dropped twice btw...and Wilder - by anyone's count - is the 2nd best name on Fury's resume lol. The number of posters on here who analyze this sport with the intellect of a child is extremely high. The posts - on all sides - after Fury's win have been very disappointing...people going overboard in all directions, making it racial etc...I feel like the majority of people who post on here are just very insecure men/boys who feel a deep desire to live vicariously through other men who are much more impressive than them, but who happen to look somewhat like them. Young new generation fans, their guy is the best so lets rubbish everyone else, its hero worship and youth ego combined Nothing new here, same ol love hate fest. The super HWs of this generation I dont think are very good fighters, there size has become more relevant to winning than their skillset and I doubt you will ever get a great WW, a great LW or great MW etc that is as miss made as these monster HWs, there bodies are so unbalanced they can never be truly great fighters, they are competing against the same so it levels out, but no way could they compete at top level in the lower weights if they stayed the same just was say 160.

Yup, it was literally me you and another couple of guys against the entire NSB community, everyone said Wlad would destroy him, and a large percentage called Fury a bum. It was the Rogan fight that sold me on Fury. I knew then he was a once in a generation talent, boxed Rogan ears off as a southpaw. Sublime skills. Won't forget the first time I saw that lanky, long, charismatic HW Locche steamrolling club fighters over in the UK. He had it all, I knew it immediately. A diamond in the rough early on but that Wlad fight was the validation of years of trying to tell people he was really special as a fighter. We used to get into wars with Scott.weiland and a few other guys that I haven't seen in a while. Good times, those. :boxing:

yet in the same breath, making a shrine for Fury, changing their avatars to his picture, saying how great he is etc. I mean do you guys not realize how stupid you all look. So Wilder is this huge bum...and Fury a king for beating him...yet officially Fury has one win and one draw over Wilder - getting dropped twice btw...and Wilder - by anyone's count - is the 2nd best name on Fury's resume lol. The number of posters on here who analyze this sport with the intellect of a child is extremely high. The posts - on all sides - after Fury's win have been very disappointing...people going overboard in all directions, making it racial etc...I feel like the majority of people who post on here are just very insecure men/boys who feel a deep desire to live vicariously through other men who are much more impressive than them, but who happen to look somewhat like them.Isn't that the honest truth? Before Fury's win, Wilder haters were saying that he was just a limited, overachieving bum who couldn't box with a very thin resume. However, since Fury defeated him they want to act like hypocrites. They want to add him to every pound for pound list and make him out be some all-time great for defeating a bum like Wilder according to their own narrative. Now they are trying make Wilder out to better than what he he actually was since Tyson Fury's victory over him. Excellent Thread!

yet in the same breath, making a shrine for Fury, changing their avatars to his picture, saying how great he is etc. I mean do you guys not realize how stupid you all look. So Wilder is this huge bum...and Fury a king for beating him...yet officially Fury has one win and one draw over Wilder - getting dropped twice btw...and Wilder - by anyone's count - is the 2nd best name on Fury's resume lol. The number of posters on here who analyze this sport with the intellect of a child is extremely high. The posts - on all sides - after Fury's win have been very disappointing...people going overboard in all directions, making it racial etc...I feel like the majority of people who post on here are just very insecure men/boys who feel a deep desire to live vicariously through other men who are much more impressive than them, but who happen to look somewhat like them. - -U Wildy bum?

Facts, Denium and I were calling Fury great before he fought Chisora, I've been following Fury since his 10th fight, Denium probably longer. I can find posts of us both telling people Fury was going to ice Wlad years before the fight was reality. Yup, it was literally me you and another couple of guys against the entire NSB community, everyone said Wlad would destroy him, and a large percentage called Fury a bum. It was the Rogan fight that sold me on Fury. I knew then he was a once in a generation talent, boxed Rogan ears off as a southpaw. Sublime skills.

I've never read as much rubbish in my life. Fury has wins over a 12yr unbeaten champion Klitschko and a 5yr unbeaten champion Wilder, thats 5000000x better than anything Whyte has ever done or ever will do. Fury went life and death with Seferi? Nope, Life and death with Wallin? Nope, Otto won 2 rounds at most. Dubois's best win is Nathan Gorman ffs. I think you're just trolling. As for calling things beforehand, i was calling Tyson Fury the real deal on here a decade ago when everyone else was calling him a complete and utter bum. Am i fibbing? LoadedWraps Facts, Denium and I were calling Fury great before he fought Chisora, I've been following Fury since his 10th fight, Denium probably longer. I can find posts of us both telling people Fury was going to ice Wlad years before the fight was reality.

Joseph Parker for one. I said Ruiz and Usyk are definitely good boxers. Usyk has a match at HW, though. Beating Joshua is also a pretty big win, I'd say. Klitschko is retired when he will not return for certain. I get the sense you are trying to derail with a pointless debate. Tell me what you really want to say about my first post. Well you said Ortiz was not 4th-10th in your opinion, and then wouldn't list a top 10 dude...so it seems like an odd comment. Yes Whyte has a 12 round UD over Parker in the UK...Wilder's two KOs over Ortiz are objectively more impressive to me than that win for Whyte over Parker. I don't see why people are saying Parker/Whyte and even Ruiz are so clearly above someone like Ortiz, let alone Wilder. My brothers friend saw Max Kellerman in a pharmacy in vegas. He asked who to bet on, Kellerman said Wilder. He texted my brother who told him Kellerman is a chump and to bet on Fury by KO. Won over $500. Not huge bucks but it’s a good story. Anything a fighter says right post fight I know to take with a grain of salt. Still rattling of excuses while saying “no excuses” is pretty corny. Sadly excuses always seem to be worth more than the truth in boxing. If u blame ur ring walk gear then it just proves ur and ur whole team is mentality deficient compared to Furys team because he was carried into the ring. It’s all bull***** of course. But if we pretend it was a factor then all the more reason he deserved to lose. No one made him do it. He had to wear a corny outfit. Any football player knows this is a joke. Good post...and to be clear, I find Wilder's excuses absolutely hilarious really...I love them actually...but on that same note, I'm not mad at him for making them and I don't hate him for them. He is trying to work his way through the loss mentally, and he is also a bit of a character so he is saying some crazy stuff lol..idk I enjoy it.

I like both guys. I actually picked Wilder to win by KO. Still though, the costume excuse cracks me up:lol1: My brothers friend saw Max Kellerman in a pharmacy in vegas. He asked who to bet on, Kellerman said Wilder. He texted my brother who told him Kellerman is a chump and to bet on Fury by KO. Won over $500. Not huge bucks but it’s a good story. Anything a fighter says right post fight I know to take with a grain of salt. Still rattling of excuses while saying “no excuses” is pretty corny. Sadly excuses always seem to be worth more than the truth in boxing. If u blame ur ring walk gear then it just proves ur and ur whole team is mentality deficient compared to Furys team because he was carried into the ring. It’s all bull***** of course. But if we pretend it was a factor then all the more reason he deserved to lose. No one made him do it. He had to wear a corny outfit. Any football player knows this is a joke.

BoxingScene logic: 1. Fury beat Wilder. 2. Every heavyweight in history can do what Fury just did.

Who was Whyte beat though...and Wlad is retired man...Ruiz has the win over AJ and nothing else...Usyk hasn't even fought at HW and we don't know how he will doJoseph Parker for one. I said Ruiz and Usyk are definitely good boxers. Usyk has a match at HW, though. Beating Joshua is also a pretty big win, I'd say. Klitschko is retired when he will not return for certain. I get the sense you are trying to derail with a pointless debate. Tell me what you really want to say about my first post.

You're so ignorant, you are an embarrassment. Why are all the other world leaders laughing at your illiterate clown? Are they all stupid? And what bits of what I said are not true? Denying climate change = you might as well believe in a flat earth ffs. I'm out pal, I've realized I am arguing with a fool, and it's harder to win an argument with a fool than an intelligent person. I'm trying to help you here - your Republican party is bending over your blue collar population and giving it to them- and you're voting for them. Go pay your hospital bill pal, you deserve what you vote for. Trump won because he appealed to blue collar voters in key states...just fall back man, you have 0 clue what you're talking about. Yes our healthcare system is off here, but yours is worse...when the government gets involved, you get a worse product at a higher cost...your 'cost' is disguised with your obscenely high tax rate. Fortunately our gov't involvement is less than yours, currently, as far as healthcare goes. Too many unanswered questions to make a top 10 that holds any true meaning. But some boxers have a more valid resume to build a ranking, such as Fury, Klitschko, Whyte, and Joshua. Ruiz and Usyk are definitely good boxers. Who was Whyte beat though...and Wlad is retired man...Ruiz has the win over AJ and nothing else...Usyk hasn't even fought at HW and we don't know how he will do

Well it is pretty funny to imagine a Deontay Wilder with average punching power. How well do you think he would have done in his era? Be honest.

What would your top 10 at HW look like?Too many unanswered questions to make a top 10 that holds any true meaning. But some boxers have a more valid resume to build a ranking, such as Fury, Klitschko, Whyte, and Joshua. Ruiz and Usyk are definitely good boxers.

Man you are wacky...for a dude talking about media narratives a few posts back...you certainly sound like a dude who verbatim regurgitates bad fan-fiction from the left. Also...a majority of people in the US are 'pro-gun' and at least somewhat skeptical of climate science...and for good reason...guns are a necessary 'evil' as far as self-defense goes, and climate alarmists like to skew the science behind 'climate change'...the facts show that there is a very minimal impact that humans have on temperature/the environment...and a lot of people aren't falling for the alarmism and money-redistribution scheme. Also lol on calling Trump lazy...say what you want about the dude but he works his as.s off...hardly even sleeps...look at how badly he outworked Clinton in 2016...it in part helped him to win the election, his work ethic. But anyway yeah man you sound like a nut...stick to UK politics and supporting UK fighters...your analysis of fighters and politics appears heavily influenced by some sort of UK propaganda over there, and as a result your analysis is irrelevant, and you are reduced merely to a fan, both politically and with sports. Have fun rooting on your guys buddy! You're so ignorant, you are an embarrassment. Why are all the other world leaders laughing at your illiterate clown? Are they all stupid? And what bits of what I said are not true? Denying climate change = you might as well believe in a flat earth ffs. I'm out pal, I've realized I am arguing with a fool, and it's harder to win an argument with a fool than an intelligent person. I'm trying to help you here - your Republican party is bending over your blue collar population and giving it to them- and you're voting for them. Go pay your hospital bill pal, you deserve what you vote for.

What makes you think Ortiz is in the 4th-10th bracket? His rise to fame is facing Wilder, whose rise to fame is facing Ortiz. I agree with his equally deluded fan base. They, like Wilder's delusional self-image projecting statements are part of the excessive backlash, as much is the ridiculous overhype of someone that has been protected as much as Wilder. Wilder got beat by someone who had been away from boxing for 2½ years, and went life and death with Wallin. Wilder has also been outboxed by pretty much anyone he has faced from Szpilka to Ortiz to Fury. Now he got dominated. If Wilder proceeds to lose to Usyk, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Klitschko, Povetkin, Joshua, and so on and so forth, how would you assess it all? That's right a boxer with a padded record that couldn't cut it with the top boxers. What would your top 10 at HW look like?

Wilder is definitely now being underrated. You don't have to be as good as the #1 to be considered one of the best. Say what you want about a guy like Ortiz but he is definitely in the 4th-10th best bracket and Wilder KO'd him twice. Hell, I don't even care if Wilder gets demolished by Fury again and AJ later, there are still some fights that I would love to see him in. Unfortunately Wilder + the more cult-like extremist part of his fan base made things quite toxic among various fan-circles and now that he got smashed up, people will jump all over it. Wilder is one of the best who got beat by the very best. It happens.What makes you think Ortiz is in the 4th-10th bracket? His rise to fame is facing Wilder, whose rise to fame is facing Ortiz. I agree with his equally deluded fan base. They, like Wilder's delusional self-image projecting statements are part of the excessive backlash, as much is the ridiculous overhype of someone that has been protected as much as Wilder. Wilder got beat by someone who had been away from boxing for 2½ years, and went life and death with Wallin. Wilder has also been outboxed by pretty much anyone he has faced from Szpilka to Ortiz to Fury. Now he got dominated. If Wilder proceeds to lose to Usyk, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Klitschko, Povetkin, Joshua, and so on and so forth, how would you assess it all? That's right a boxer with a padded record that couldn't cut it with the top boxers.