Thurman's resume was 100x better than Wilder's, and Pac was 40, so DEFINITELY Pacquaio's win was more impressive.
We KNEW Wilder was limited coming into the fight, and that he could only win by landing a giant right hand, which he barely managed to do the first time. But Fury was tremendous, no question.
Man I just found out Tyson Fury is younger than Deontay, I always thought Fury was older. he looks old for his age.
Thurman's resume was 100x better than Wilder's, and Pac was 40, so DEFINITELY Pacquaio's win was more impressive.
We KNEW Wilder was limited coming into the fight, and that he could only win by landing a giant right hand, which he barely managed to do the first time. But Fury was tremendous, no question.
People forget Tyson Fury basically beat Wilder in the first fight, he was outboxing him and survived the 12th knockdown.
So him winning the rematch shouldnt be shocking, all Wilder can do is punch and Tyson actually ate all his best shots early and pushed Wilder back it was like he continued on from the 12th.
Pacman over Thurman
That is not to say Fury’s win over Wilder was not impressive - it was. But if you’re a hater of Fury and if you’re trying to belittle his accomplishment win then this is the kind of topic to create
Ah so in the culture, it means that if you're big you are wealthy? I get it, more fine dining, more dates at dinner, more money to enjoy expensive treasures like wine? Too bad it's not like that in Western Civilization lol. I understand that the sumos get tons of respect, kinda like the rapper fat Joe before he became not so fat Joe. He was proud of how fat he was. The most props I can get is being tabachoi in my culture, thanks for the compliment though!
I am starving in Tokyo. Not fat at all!!!
Thurman's resume was 100x better than Wilder's, and Pac was 40, so DEFINITELY Pacquaio's win was more impressive.
We KNEW Wilder was limited coming into the fight, and that he could only win by landing a giant right hand, which he barely managed to do the first time. But Fury was tremendous, no question.
Manny over Keef, Fury boxed Wildling up nicely the first time. He had to play his role to ensure the rematch though. This time he had no handcuffs so to speak and it showed.
Wilder was always dangerous and was good. People made him favourite against fury twice so can't all of sudden say you were wrong as that's discrediting tyson. Nobody put gun to your head to think wilder was so good you make him fave?
Deontay had aura surrounding his power so his opponents were beaten before fight! power
Fury wasn't scared of power. Fury has taken that aura away.So if wilder is beaten left right and centre now, it won't detract from furys achievement. As fury opened floodgates, paved way, pioneer. The first person who climbed everest is better than second person
that was more of a case of fury being done than anything else. widler himself said he picked fury when he was coked up and fat as a house so that really says it all. fury also looked like a bum against wallin but wallin would probably destroy wilder as well
Definitely Pacquiao beating Thurman. Fury was pretty clearly a better boxer than Wilder in the first fight. Pac's old as **** and beat a much better fighter than Deontay Wilder.
Pacquiao at 40 beating Keith Thurman who is 10 years younger.
Tyson Fury beat Wilder in the first fight but was given a Draw. so the rematch was not shocking and even in the 12th round Everyone including Roach and myself said Tyson could have got a TKO because Wilder doesn't know how to fight backing up and was getting buzzed from combos.
So Fury beating wilder was no shock
Pac legit shocked me he is undersized, old and frail and dropped Thurman and hurt him in that fight and took his punches.
Both wins very impressive. If I had to choose, I'll go with Pacquiao.
If Fury did what he did in the first fight, I'd probably go with Fury, but since he beat him in the first fight 9-3/8-4, I'll go with Pacquiao. Fury's was still really dope though.
Fat asian implies wealth. Kisses. Non j****
Do whatever you do to keep money coming
Ah so in the culture, it means that if you're big you are wealthy? I get it, more fine dining, more dates at dinner, more money to enjoy expensive treasures like wine? Too bad it's not like that in Western Civilization lol. I understand that the sumos get tons of respect, kinda like the rapper fat Joe before he became not so fat Joe. He was proud of how fat he was. The most props I can get is being tabachoi in my culture, thanks for the compliment though!
Still gotta be Manny, imo. His age is what earns it to me. BUT, in terms of satisfaction.....definitely has to be Fury. Wilder bumped them gums since the end of the 1st fight. Til this day, he's making excuses but has no excuses...
Wow you got me lol
Charles Martin also destroys Loma doesn’t make him the better boxer.
But with that said Canelo still ****tts on Fury’s pau and if I had to look like someone I would much rather look like Canelo than Furys genetically mutated disproportioned ass.
Fury goes into long reigning champions backyards and shuts them out or TKO's them. Canelo lost to GGG twice and lost to Lara.
And yes, Martin would smash Loma, that's why HWs are the kings of boxing. P4P is a load of rubbish.
Wilder was always dangerous and was good. People made him favourite against fury twice so can't all of sudden say you were wrong as that's discrediting tyson. Nobody put gun to your head to think wilder was so good you make him fave?
Deontay had aura surrounding his power so his opponents were beaten before fight! power
Fury wasn't scared of power. Fury has taken that aura away.So if wilder is beaten left right and centre now, it won't detract from furys achievement. As fury opened floodgates, paved way, pioneer. The first person who climbed everest is better than second person
i think everyone knew wilder wasnt that good he just had the power to put you away at any second so everyone knew he had a chance vs anyone. and he still does even after losing. but going forward it will be much tougher for him.
Manny's win was more impressive. Keith was younger, undefeated and the more fundamentally sound fighter with an extensive amateur pedigree, who could also box when he challenged Manny Pacquiao.
As opposed to when Tyson Fury defeated Deontay Wilder; A fundamentally sound limited fighter with excellent punching ability but one who cannot box with hardly any amateur pedigree at all; With just under 40 amateur bouts with 38.
This is a good thread. Wilder was so convincing in his self belief and confidence that many were persuaded that he was a lot better than what he actually was.