"The Cat" Usyk vs P4P King Fury: who wins?

- - Flubber ain't even the Heavyweight Princess. 6 years Ring champ with 2 defenses and one steroid suspension, a major league ducker of Usyk and AJ. Been propped up by an MTK and Ring unholy alliance. Keep hating man i bet this poll is killing you lmao Fury is the man simple as.

That's not what P4P means. The point of P4P is, if you took every fighter and they were all the same size, who would win. If Fury was shrunk down to Canelo size, he'd get destroyed. Or even if Fury was shrunk down to cruiserweight, he'd get destroyed by Usyk at that weight. That's what P4P means. The P4P king is either Canelo, Inoue or Usyk. Just be content with Fury being the heavyweight king. That's good enough. - - Flubber ain't even the Heavyweight Princess. 6 years Ring champ with 2 defenses and one steroid suspension, a major league ducker of Usyk and AJ. Been propped up by an MTK and Ring unholy alliance.

size is only one quality he has and you can have size and not use it to maximum benefit. There is no one who would beat him at any weight, which is what p4p means. That's not what P4P means. The point of P4P is, if you took every fighter and they were all the same size, who would win. If Fury was shrunk down to Canelo size, he'd get destroyed. Or even if Fury was shrunk down to cruiserweight, he'd get destroyed by Usyk at that weight. That's what P4P means. The P4P king is either Canelo, Inoue or Usyk. Just be content with Fury being the heavyweight king. That's good enough.

"P4P king"? Are you having a laugh? Canelo, Inoue and Usyk are all greater P4P fighters than Fury. There's nothing "pound-for-pound" about Fury because he's a massive giant that always benefits from his huge size advantage over opponents. Calling him "P4P king" would make the P4P rankings a complete joke. They're called "pound-for-pound" for a reason. size is only one quality he has and you can have size and not use it to maximum benefit. There is no one who would beat him at any weight, which is what p4p means.

"P4P king"? Are you having a laugh? Canelo, Inoue and Usyk are all greater P4P fighters than Fury. There's nothing "pound-for-pound" about Fury because he's a massive giant that always benefits from his huge size advantage over opponents. Calling him "P4P king" would make the P4P rankings a complete joke. They're called "pound-for-pound" for a reason.

Fury in 9.

You people are nuts. Fury beats up on a one trick , chinny, flat footed Wilder and suddenly he's unbeatable? Usyk ain't gonna be standing there against the ropes letting Fury lean on him all night, and he'll be scoring with quicker, more accurate variety of shots. He'll outpoint Fury. He won't get the decision though The problem with this take is, there isn't anything Usyk can do that Fury can't. It will be a game of adjustments but Fury doesn't need to rely on his size, and weight to win. They are advantages, but the acumen and ring IQ is elite. I think it's a great fight and potentially one of Furys hardest, but I don't see Usyk out pointing Fury even If he can stay away and box off the back foot all night. Fury has the IQ and mobility to stick with him and cut that ring off and force Usyk to constantly move and block punches.

Are we going to pretend like Wilder doesn't beat any other HW in the world not named Tyson fury. As bad as wilder was last night I don't see how anyone else survives that. I think one of the reasons Tyson came in heavier was to be more resistant to wilders power. Look at Usyks face after fighting a gun shy Joshua who didn't want to let his hands go. I think Fury uses his size to dominate him and we go home wondering why we entertained this matchup in the 1st place. I'd favor Usyk against him, maybe Sanchez. Wilder stops most people on this planet not named Fury. People will do anything to delegitimize Furys resume tho. We've seen this before with Floyd.

And he’s for sure NOT the p4p best that would be canelo and it’s not even close. No one on this planet could outbox Fury, or stop him.

''P4P King'' :lol1:..........

You people are nuts. Fury beats up on a one trick , chinny, flat footed Wilder and suddenly he's unbeatable? Usyk ain't gonna be standing there against the ropes letting Fury lean on him all night, and he'll be scoring with quicker, more accurate variety of shots. He'll outpoint Fury. He won't get the decision though Are we going to pretend like Wilder doesn't beat any other HW in the world not named Tyson fury. As bad as wilder was last night I don't see how anyone else survives that. I think one of the reasons Tyson came in heavier was to be more resistant to wilders power. Look at Usyks face after fighting a gun shy Joshua who didn't want to let his hands go. I think Fury uses his size to dominate him and we go home wondering why we entertained this matchup in the 1st place.

I'm not sure I just can't pick against Fury but if anyone can beat him right now its Usyk. I liked Shane Fury saying that is his dream fight and he was on he fence and stated if they were the same size he'd beat his brother but with Furys physical attributes he'd maybe lean towards him. Stand up fella. Another though a little unproven I'd like to see face either is Frank Sanchez he's a handful for any HW imo 6'4, 240 and moves like a damn MW. He's an up-and-comer for sure. He still has a couple of more years at 29 and will likely rise to the top as the guard gets older.

I'm not sure I just can't pick against Fury but if anyone can beat him right now its Usyk. I liked Shane Fury saying that is his dream fight and he was on he fence and stated if they were the same size he'd beat his brother but with Furys physical attributes he'd maybe lean towards him. Stand up fella. Another though a little unproven I'd like to see face either is Frank Sanchez he's a handful for any HW imo 6'4, 240 and moves like a damn MW.

Usyk has already come out and said that Fury would be his toughest fight. Yeah, he said that, of the top 3 HWs, Fury would be the most difficult to beat and Wilder would be the easiest. I agree with that.

You people are nuts. Fury beats up on a one trick , chinny, flat footed Wilder and suddenly he's unbeatable? Usyk ain't gonna be standing there against the ropes letting Fury lean on him all night, and he'll be scoring with quicker, more accurate variety of shots. He'll outpoint Fury. He won't get the decision though

It would take Fury underestimating Usyk and coming in an ill-prepared/300 lbs (which is not a far stretch) and a ref who would not let Tyson grab and lean on Usyk. But Fury is not Joshua. I think it's a bridge too far for Usyk, but I can’t help but be curious about it. I'm also not sure that after COVID, Fury was even fully recovered from it. It takes a long time to get your lungs back after COVID. A lighter Fury would give Usyk more problems. But oddly enough, It's Fury who has been knocked down quite a few times...Usyk has never been knocked down, and Fury isn't really a hard puncher. It would be the proverbial David and Goliath.

Like Ola Afolabi (decent CW) said about facing Fury, he is just too damn big

We just saw Wilder win a couple of rounds in the beginning with his jab. If Wilder can do that, we can't count Usyk out. Of course I don't believe Usyk will ultimately win the fight because Fury has way too many advantages all around. But with his southpaw style and high ring IQ, he could make it interesting. Well said. I think it's a high level fight and Usyk will need to fight the fight of his life to come out on top.

Great fight. I'm picking Usyk. I think can present problems at times, but I think Fury dominates him late.

We just saw Wilder win a couple of rounds in the beginning with his jab. If Wilder can do that, we can't count Usyk out. Of course I don't believe Usyk will ultimately win the fight because Fury has way too many advantages all around. But with his southpaw style and high ring IQ, he could make it interesting.