Nope
I called it on here that Fury will stop him.
I even said right after the weigh in that Wilder is in trouble, when others were saying Fury was too heavy. I said on a thread that Wilder is about to get turned into a meme, which is happening.
“Punchers chance” doesn’t really exist when the skill levels are so far apart. Top fighters are top fighters for a reason, they don’t lose to fighters that only have a punchers chance and can’t live with them in the skill department.
I actually think Wilder still arguably beats anyone else (well maybe not if he’s mentally done now). He just can’t beat Fury, who’s out on his own right now in terms of ability in the division.
This wasn’t a 50% Fury with 5 months of activity. Wilder was going up against a different man and that’s why i was so confident.
Something still was off with Wilder?
Shty corner. Even worse Cutman.
Too much weight
Stupid heavy costume
Wilder his own worst enemy
to much weight? hahahah he still looked skinny
I just want to understand the thinking.
For me this was such an easy fight to call.
Was it as simple as backing your fighters rather than really thinking about the bout?
Not at all. I wanted Fury to win.
I thought Fury would win the first fight. I thought he did win the first fight. But I thought Wilder was starting to solve the puzzle late in the fight and get his right hand off.
Plus Fury went into two no hoper fights. I figured even Fury (who does lift his game) would struggle to come back up to the top level when he'd had a relatively easy 12 months compared to the level of the guys Wilder was fighting.
So my money was on Wilder by KO.
Then I saw the weigh in and figured Wilder had got it wrong - he didn't need to be slower. I didn't particularly judge Fury's weight without seeing what kind of weight he'd added.
Within about 15 seconds I realised what I'd missed. Fury really was going to bully Wilder. It was Fury who solved the puzzle late in the first fight. Step to the guy and put him under pressure.
So not an easy fight to pick at all. Big mauling Fury beats any version of Wilder - but those of us who have watched a lot of Fury (and listened to his bullscheisse) didn't really expect that. He performed a classic double bluff - he told us the truth!
I see that now. And his clinch drop weight style gonna wear everyone down just like Klitz/Lewis did
One reason why Klit could not beat Fury as he in the clinch Fury and the size and weight advantage.
Fury was the better fighter but it’s about execution. Fury tends to **** off a lot in fights and all it takes is one shot. I still enjoyed the fight even though my guy lost. If Fury fights like that all the time he’s gonna be tough to beat.
Fury raises his game when there is a challenge.
He has shown on many occasions he can be incredibly disciplined and execute a game plan.
If Wilder stepped to Fury they could have went toe to toe, but Wilder felt the power of the jab and the right cross and the left hook and backed up.
But even if they went toe to toe Fury is winning.
Wilder cannot beat a 100% Fury, no matter what game plan or what he does.
I just want to understand the thinking.
For me this was such an easy fight to call.
Was it as simple as backing your fighters rather than really thinking about the bout?
Fury was the better fighter but it’s about execution. Fury tends to **** off a lot in fights and all it takes is one shot. I still enjoyed the fight even though my guy lost. If Fury fights like that all the time he’s gonna be tough to beat.
Something still was off with Wilder?
Shty corner. Even worse Cutman.
Too much weight
Stupid heavy costume
Wilder his own worst enemy
His corner has always been bad.
He thought the extra weight would be needed to keep Fury down.
There was nothing Wilder or his team could do to prevent Fury from winning.
New trainer.
Into WWE and talking MMA.
Cant make 1sec of a mistake
Trainer was to implement the new game plan.
MMA helped him in clinches, and WWE kept him in the gym and active.
Wilder caught a 50% Fury in the first fight and Fury got up and took the fight and hurt Wilder.
How did you think 100% Fury would no be able to make 1 mistake?
Fury is by far the better boxer so it is nothing he can do about that this late in his career but he can try to catch him early he has to come out Wild and throw punches with bad intentions early
I am SHOCKED that he backed up early in that fight and was reluctant to throw punches early, not sure WTF was the plan or even he even had one. Did the "I'm Knocking You Out In 2 Rounds" play a factor maybe because Wilder looked cautious early
Stylistically through out History the Boxer typically schools he Puncher/Brawler so I don't see Wilder beating him other than Landing big and knocking him out EARLY
There was no way to know the extra weight would help him absorb the shots better or that he wouldn't just get caught coming in and ko'd.
I thought it would have been smarter to come in light and box, good for Fury that is plan worked and he won in dominant fashion.
Extra weight does help to absorb punches, as well as being fitter and more in shape, with living the life and being a gym rat.
Coming in back's Wilder put, and he can't get his power off going back.
Also Fury comes in closing the range and not allowing Wilder to fully extend taking power off as well.
I cannot comprehend why some of you thought Wilder would win the rematch?
It like you never saw the first fight, all the clues were there.
And with Tyson deciding to look for the KO and and get a Kronk Gym trainer it was only going to end one way.
The fight went exactly the way I thought, it was the only way i could see it going.
So what was your reasoning for thinking Wilder would win?
Fury took his best punches and this was a Fury at 50%, out of shape flabby and ring rusty and he still won 9/10 rounds and even finished the rounds stronger where he got knocked down in.
Was your thinking for Wilder winning?
Was it just he lands a big punch and Fury doesn't beat the count, ignoring everything we know from the first fight?
you are quoting me from a post earlier today, lol.....
I agree!
Fury won both fights. I understand that Wilder has a rematch clause but there is really no reason for them to fight. Wilder got schooled both times. However, I must admit, Fury has gained a lot of attention in the US and the 3rd fight may be a financial success as well. But I'd rather watch Wilder-Joshua or Fury-Joshua.
Your guy won the fight so why all the crying?
I just want to understand the thinking.
For me this was such an easy fight to call.
Was it as simple as backing your fighters rather than really thinking about the bout?
I thought that with Fury coming in heavy he would be true to his word in being aggressive and trying to bully Wilder.
If he was going to do this then he would be a bigger much more stationary target giving Wilder the only chance he really had which was to stop Fury.
It could have just taken one flush shot since he almost stopped Fury with the few shots he landed in fight one but last night Fury showed that Wilder has no idea what to do when pressed and is totally inept backing up.
Because of this he was totally unable to find Fury's chin while he was still in the mid range as he was coming in.
But remember the first fight, when Fury got put down in rounds 9 and 12, he fought back, pushes Wilder back and hurt him.
And this was a 50% Fury who just been knocked down.
The extra weight and the extra fitness of Fury made him able to absorb punches better. And backing Wilder up takes his power away too.