Fury vs Wilder is not a 50/50 fight. Here's why.

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Only come out for the big ones, eh? Yeah, casuals will do that. I’ve already laid out over the course of a month why Fury is going to win. Money in the bank. It's okay, I'll be sure to bump all this back up when Fury is knocked out :)

This is not even close to being true. Poking your tongue out a few times doesn't mean you're winning rounds. Wilder won 3 of the first 4 rounds. Fury knicked a few rounds too but he never dominated in any part of the fight apart from maybe the second half of the 12th round when Wilder gased. - -What kinda Keef U be snorting?

- Fury dominated the first fight barring the two knockdowns. - Rematches usually favor the pure boxer rather than the puncher since he can more easily make adjustments. - Fury was coming off 3 years doing coke and having to lose over 100lbs and he still got up from the knockdowns. It is going to be way harder to knock him down this time. - Fury is actually 3 years younger than Wilder. A lot of people don't realise Wilder is 34 years old. Age starts to play a factor when a fighter gets to his mid 30's. - If Fury can't beat Wilder who can? Does Wilder really look like a fighter to stay undefeated? Fury is over the odds IMO. I'd say he has about a 75% chance of winning this fight with a 25% chance of getting knocked out. The odds being even are ridiculous IMO. Thoughts? - -U fuzzy or furry?

That’s why I’m hesitant to bet big on Fury. I don’t think Haymon would’ve let this rematch take place without some safety nets in place especially now that Fury is with Arum. Yeah... Very very true. :beerchug: Its an unfortunate reality.

Anyone notice the huge strength difference at the final press conference? Wilder pushing Fury was like watching someone trying to push a car. Fury shoved him right across the stage with a flick of his wrist. After that Wilder remained seated, repeating “sit down! Sit down!” Ha. He was shook. Keep telling yourself that :lol1: Wilder is totally shook bahaha Fury changing trainers and blabbering a whole bunch of nonsense shows who's insecure here. He couldn't do better than what he did the first time. Wilder KO's Fury by round 8

The only interesting thing about this fight is to see how long Fury can avoid getting hit with a big shot. Both Fury and Wilder looked bad in their last fights. Fury almost got stopped and Wilder lost every round to a 50 year old Cuban. uhhh, you clearly don't know anything about Wilder Nearly anyone who fights Wilder wins everyone round until the Knockout, that **** doesn't mean ANYTHING against Wilder who patiently waits for the perfect shot. Enough said.

- Fury dominated the first fight barring the two knockdowns. This is not even close to being true. Poking your tongue out a few times doesn't mean you're winning rounds. Wilder won 3 of the first 4 rounds. Fury knicked a few rounds too but he never dominated in any part of the fight apart from maybe the second half of the 12th round when Wilder gased.

Some good points. Unfortunately the illusion is the puncher has an easier time of it... In fact a lot of things have to go right for the puncher to succeed. Frankly I have a few observations about why this is close regarding the odds: 1) The judges, Moreitti especially is bought and paid for. I am thinking the judges will handicap for the sake of Wilder 2) There may have been a few problems in the Fury camp. Otherwise there is no way this would even be close, Fury would be the favorite by a mile. That’s why I’m hesitant to bet big on Fury. I don’t think Haymon would’ve let this rematch take place without some safety nets in place especially now that Fury is with Arum.

I think its pretty much 51/49 in favour of Fury. He is not a big puncher so the likelihood of him finishing Wilder early is pretty low. Hes probably going to have to last a long time in there, possibly the full 12. If it goes longer than 7-8 rounds odds are Wilder will have landed something big again, and Fury will need to pick himself up off the canvas again. I think he can, because in both the first fight and also the Cunningham fight he has demonstrated exceptional recovery and composure after getting dropped hard.

- Fury dominated the first fight barring the two knockdowns. - Rematches usually favor the pure boxer rather than the puncher since he can more easily make adjustments. - Fury was coming off 3 years doing coke and having to lose over 100lbs and he still got up from the knockdowns. It is going to be way harder to knock him down this time. - Fury is actually 3 years younger than Wilder. A lot of people don't realise Wilder is 34 years old. Age starts to play a factor when a fighter gets to his mid 30's. - If Fury can't beat Wilder who can? Does Wilder really look like a fighter to stay undefeated? Fury is over the odds IMO. I'd say he has about a 75% chance of winning this fight with a 25% chance of getting knocked out. The odds being even are ridiculous IMO. Thoughts? Some good points. Unfortunately the illusion is the puncher has an easier time of it... In fact a lot of things have to go right for the puncher to succeed. Frankly I have a few observations about why this is close regarding the odds: 1) The judges, Moreitti especially is bought and paid for. I am thinking the judges will handicap for the sake of Wilder 2) There may have been a few problems in the Fury camp. Otherwise there is no way this would even be close, Fury would be the favorite by a mile.

Anyone notice the huge strength difference at the final press conference? Wilder pushing Fury was like watching someone trying to push a car. Fury shoved him right across the stage with a flick of his wrist. After that Wilder remained seated, repeating “sit down! Sit down!” Ha. He was shook. Yeah I noticed that. Will be interesting if Fury really does act on his claim of taking the fight to Wilder and fighting on the inside because he's clearly the stronger (and much bigger) fighter.

The unabomber outfit Fury wore yesterday concerned me a tad bit but I still cant pick a clear winner yet. I'm waiting for the weigh in to say

The only interesting thing about this fight is to see how long Fury can avoid getting hit with a big shot. Both Fury and Wilder looked bad in their last fights. Fury almost got stopped and Wilder lost every round to a 50 year old Cuban.

I think this will be Kovalev vs Ward 1, Canelo vs GGG 1, Fury is the better boxer and will win with the fans, BUT he is not going to be allowed to win, unless he goes for the KO, and I think he knows it... and THAT is why Wilder will catch him once and Kenny will call it off. I have to favor Fury if he's in shape, not if he's weighing 270+ pounds. Saying Fury can't win a fair decision is silly. Fury would have won the first time had he simply stayed on his feet through the final round.

- Fury dominated the first fight barring the two knockdowns. - Rematches usually favor the pure boxer rather than the puncher since he can more easily make adjustments. - Fury was coming off 3 years doing coke and having to lose over 100lbs and he still got up from the knockdowns. It is going to be way harder to knock him down this time. - Fury is actually 3 years younger than Wilder. A lot of people don't realise Wilder is 34 years old. Age starts to play a factor when a fighter gets to his mid 30's. - If Fury can't beat Wilder who can? Does Wilder really look like a fighter to stay undefeated? Fury is over the odds IMO. I'd say he has about a 75% chance of winning this fight with a 25% chance of getting knocked out. The odds being even are ridiculous IMO. Thoughts? Don't think Fury ness has advantage in rematch. Its true a boxer can make more adjustments a lot of times, but not always ESP when there are unorthodox fighters. Being so unorthodox like Fury is an advantage in the 1st fight, but not as much in a rematch. No one fights like Fury(except Hughie poor mans version)so its REALLY hard to get ready for that, but after 12rds it becomes less of an advantage and Wilder is better at setting up punches then people think. Another thing is Fury fought a great fight the 1st time, and im not sure he can improve much on that. That being said Fury don't need to improve much he just needs to stay alert at all times because Wilder has a way of lulling you ESP after breaks in action. You notice a lot of his KOs come right after a break when he jumps right in with that right when guys are not expecting it. Fury best chance is to make it as ugly as possible, and his talk of getting inside I think is a good idea. He will need to be VERY careful and double jab his way in, then look to land a shot and wrestle/hold and use his weight to try and tire Wilder out who has a good engine though. Interesting fight

You clearly don't know what you're saying or understand how lines move or juice/implied probability etc. -130 is the highest I can find for Wilder on garbage mybookie and that's a 6.5% margin. -110 -110 on bet365 at 5.2% margin -113 +100 on Pinaccle at 3.08% margin -105 +100 on William Hill at 1.05% margin which would be the best place to place your wager which I would not have figured but hey that's why I looked it all up. and vegas showing even odds or wilder at -116 at highest. (westgate I think) at best they gave him a 56.50% to win when it should be 53.05% fair odds sans vig. so if you think paying the bookie more is Wilder being a CLEAR favorite then you my friend are a sucker. As they say gambling is simply a tax on those that can't do math.

6’7 and 6’9 this is evenly matched..at heavyweight one punch could change your life..even the greatest heavyweights lived one mistake away from taking a nap. These guys are super heavies they aren’t normal fighters, just the natural brute strength of each man is enough to kill the average man.

- Fury dominated the first fight barring the two knockdowns. - Rematches usually favor the pure boxer rather than the puncher since he can more easily make adjustments. - Fury was coming off 3 years doing coke and having to lose over 100lbs and he still got up from the knockdowns. It is going to be way harder to knock him down this time. - Fury is actually 3 years younger than Wilder. A lot of people don't realise Wilder is 34 years old. Age starts to play a factor when a fighter gets to his mid 30's. - If Fury can't beat Wilder who can? Does Wilder really look like a fighter to stay undefeated? Fury is over the odds IMO. I'd say he has about a 75% chance of winning this fight with a 25% chance of getting knocked out. The odds being even are ridiculous IMO. Thoughts? Man your convincing me to put 1thousand on Fury

Been going back and forth...but I think Fury wins at this point...that answer could change tomorrow though lol