Lou DiBella "Al Haymon Fired Me From PBC For Trying To Get Wilder The AJ Fight"

This is you. https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/Mister_Saint_Laurent and one of his previous screen names was St. Laurent.

IN a perfect world, yes. We however live in the real world. In the real world promoters choose to give the advantage to the guy that generates the most money. You don't put Wilder in a situation like, for example, Arum did Cotto with Manny. WInning is more important to some people than money. Fighting AJ on DAZN doesn't give you the best chance to win. Fighting AJ on DAZN does give DiBella short term financial security for his cut from the $100 mil and whatever else DAZN gives him to put his other fighters on the network. I just don't see how that is working in Wilder's best interest. It does make him huge money short term but doesn't give him the best chance to win and puts him in tough situations in all 3 fights on dazn. We went over this-Hearn does as the promoter and he is a part owner of dazn. please answer my question. Why are you now agreeing with the poster after posting you wouldn't advise wilder to fight AJ on dazn? I expect fights to get made like Fury and Wilder are doing if they are major fights between 2 guys on different networks. My preference though is to do away with network exclusive deals. on THAT issue you couldnt be more wrong. Unless of course you actually believe Wilder is somehow going to outbox AJ and win on the cards. We know thats a fallacy. If Wilder beats AJ, its because he knocks him into next Thursday. And it wont matter who the judges are.......

When I asked you if you were Wilder's promoter would you let him fight on DAZN against a DAZN promoted fighter, you posted no you would advise Wilder not to take the deal. How then can you agree with this poster that DiBella has Wilder's best interest at hand if he tries to make a deal you as a promoter wouldn't advise him to take? It seems you and others want Wilder to take the money and give up his right to negotiate not only to earn more, but to have a say in the judges, venue and the ref and reduce his chances of winning if the fight doesn't end by KO for either. Why? Did he? Did he negotiate to get more money or did him, Finkel and Haymon just walk off and talk about all the inhouse fights they could do instead? They walked off, no negotiations and no counter offer. You are trying to hide Wilder behind a false narrative my good fiend. We just wanted him to accept offers and have fights for undistputed. And thats how Boxing works.

You called his dead ex a junkie whore! ...... how the hell are you even privy to that information?? That’s some messed up stuff man, nothing warranted you going that far. You’re a real d1ckhead for bringing that up. here was the post I put up about her. It was actually back in 2018. And his takeaway from this was that she was a junkie whore. (which couldnt be further from the truth). https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd212/onepunch_photos/suzanne%20post_zpspvo2jwdk.jpg I suspect he felt the need to insult her because he knows a girl like her, despite her flaws, wouldnt have so much as looked in his direction......

Unless Wilder is an owner/shareholder at Showtime or Fox, then DAZN is not his "competitor". They are Haymons competitor, not Wilders. Which is EXACTLY the point. Keeping Wilder from making a deal with another network helps Haymon, NOT Wilder. Truthfully Wilder shouldnt care one way or another who is broadcasting his fight, as long as he is making the most money possible. and since when does a network have input into judges, etc?? Hint: They dont. Not ever. Period. Venue selection and judge challenges are issues to be negotiated. By your logic, no fighter affiliated with DAZN then should EVER go fight on Showtime or Fox, because they would have to win by KO? How do you ever expect fights to get made? IN a perfect world, yes. We however live in the real world. In the real world promoters choose to give the advantage to the guy that generates the most money. You don't put Wilder in a situation like, for example, Arum did Cotto with Manny. WInning is more important to some people than money. Fighting AJ on DAZN doesn't give you the best chance to win. Fighting AJ on DAZN does give DiBella short term financial security for his cut from the $100 mil and whatever else DAZN gives him to put his other fighters on the network. I just don't see how that is working in Wilder's best interest. It does make him huge money short term but doesn't give him the best chance to win and puts him in tough situations in all 3 fights on dazn. We went over this-Hearn does as the promoter and he is a part owner of dazn. please answer my question. Why are you now agreeing with the poster after posting you wouldn't advise wilder to fight AJ on dazn? I expect fights to get made like Fury and Wilder are doing if they are major fights between 2 guys on different networks. My preference though is to do away with network exclusive deals.

You're a POS Jared. The truth always comes out and you're a vile human being. You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. That's not my name and when I've offered to meet you and prove to you who I am, you refuse.

Man what a lousy promoter, working to get Wilder $100 million guaranteed and a chance to be the undisputed heavyweight champion and give him a legacy as an all timer. Definitely fire that guy. Wilder would much rather make nothing near that the rest of his career and be a one time champ and a footnote in history. Loyalty doe.

He spoke about it. I found out from him. no, you stalked my facebook page. Thats what losers like you do.

You called his dead ex a junkie whore! ...... how the hell are you even privy to that information?? He spoke about it. I found out from him.

You called his dead ex a junkie whore! ...... how the hell are you even privy to that information?? That’s some messed up stuff man, nothing warranted you going that far. You’re a real d1ckhead for bringing that up. he stalked my facebook page. Her and I split up more than 15 years ago, but I put a post up last year talking about mental illness, substance abuse, and how it is important to reach out to people who are in trouble. She and I hadnt spoken in 7 or 8 years, so I doubt I would have been the person to "reach" her, but I suggested that people try, before someone kills themselves and then you no longer have the chance. To him though, her parents and her brothers suffering is something to be mocked. Total scumbag,

You didn't answer my question directly. You are absolutely wrong for agreeing with that poster when you know you wouldn't make the same decision. Having Wilder fight on DAZN isn't in his best interest if winning is the goal. You don't sign away your right to have input on the judges, ref and venue. You also don't help your competitor boost sales by putting the most anticipated fight since Mayweather/Manny on their network exclusively. Worse, DiBella wouldn't just be putting wilder in a tough situation with AJ, he'd be putting him in a tough situation with Whyte, another DAZN fighter promoted by Hearn. How is it in Wilder's "best interest" to put him in a situation where he essentially has to win by KO because he is fighting dazn promoted guys on dazn? Come on dude. Be a stand up guy and tell these clowns the truth. Unless Wilder is an owner/shareholder at Showtime or Fox, then DAZN is not his "competitor". They are Haymons competitor, not Wilders. Which is EXACTLY the point. Keeping Wilder from making a deal with another network helps Haymon, NOT Wilder. Truthfully Wilder shouldnt care one way or another who is broadcasting his fight, as long as he is making the most money possible. and since when does a network have input into judges, etc?? Hint: They dont. Not ever. Period. Venue selection and judge challenges are issues to be negotiated. By your logic, no fighter affiliated with DAZN then should EVER go fight on Showtime or Fox, because they would have to win by KO? How do you ever expect fights to get made?

I'm not insulting anyone. I'm stating facts and didn't say anything he hasn't said. You called his dead ex a junkie whore! ...... how the hell are you even privy to that information?? That’s some messed up stuff man, nothing warranted you going that far. You’re a real d1ckhead for bringing that up.

Calling someone a junkie whore isn't insulting someone? Not if they're a junkie whore. As stated by Tin Foil Terry himself. I'm just stating facts. Is it an insult when you call me fat or are you just stating facts? I can't stand you but i didn't insult your girlfriend when you posted pics because she's done nothing to deserve it. You are a POS. But you also didn't post pics of yourself and your girlfriend because she doesn't exist and you're embarrassed that you're a nerdy virgin obsessed with AJ.

But you wanted Joshua to agree to that 50 mil offer which would do just that. Hypocrites everywhere. :lol1: Stop it Robbie. I am not a poster that has brought up that deal a lot in our discussions. I maintain the fight will generate more revenue in the US (which isn't debatable) and therfore it should be in the US as a joint PPV, similar to what Wilder and Fury are doing. On a joint PPV, both sides have input on judges and the ref, making the fight more even. AJ still maintains his a side status and his take from SKy PPV, which will broadcast the fight in England, but you don't lose out on millions of advertising dollars by having the fight on a Saturday afternoon in America.

Against the truth? There was no reason to insult his dead ex. That's too low. I'm not insulting anyone. I'm stating facts and didn't say anything he hasn't said.

I spent about 25 grand a year, over the course of a decade, doing something I enjoyed. Yes, I understand. You lost money so you could pretend to be a boxing promoter. You're a jock sniffer groupie. You weren't involved in a legitimate business venture. You were a fanboy willing to lose money to get to hang out with fighters. I get it. We need people like you. Most club show promoters are exactly like you. Have money from other ventures and they're willing to lose money so they can pretend to be a promoter. But regardless of the financials involved, and whether you want to acknowledge it or not, running over 60 shows, some dark, some tv, gives me a level of operational expertise that you or anyone else cannot deny. Yes, operational expertise, sure. What you don't have though is expertise on how to actually make money. So when you offer your thoughts on various business deals, and you end up being so wrong time and time again, it's not surprising since you never actually had any business success in combat sports. Maybe if I would have lost hundreds of millions, then you would respect it more. LOL clown. If you lost a few hundred million to secure annual rights fees approaching 150 million, which will continue to grow in the coming years, I would have a ton of respect for you. If PBC was sold tomorrow, it would sell for a profit.

I just have to laugh at the irony of the one guy who has no fiduciary duty to Wilder seems to be the only one actually acting as if he did. Lou was not Wilders promoter, at least not in practice. But yet he's the one who set up the meeting with DAZN, Shelly, and Haymon, so that Wilder could be presented a substantial offer. So the real question is not why Lou did that. The real question is why Shelley and Haymon didnt do it themselves. Why hadn't they already reached out to DAZN? Why would they not be interested in large offers for their clients (Wilder) services? Exactly who's interests are they giving priority to? You didn't answer my question directly. You are absolutely wrong for agreeing with that poster when you know you wouldn't make the same decision. Having Wilder fight on DAZN isn't in his best interest if winning is the goal. You don't sign away your right to have input on the judges, ref and venue. You also don't help your competitor boost sales by putting the most anticipated fight since Mayweather/Manny on their network exclusively. Worse, DiBella wouldn't just be putting wilder in a tough situation with AJ, he'd be putting him in a tough situation with Whyte, another DAZN fighter promoted by Hearn. How is it in Wilder's "best interest" to put him in a situation where he essentially has to win by KO because he is fighting dazn promoted guys on dazn? Come on dude. Be a stand up guy and tell these clowns the truth.

WTF that deserves a ban if anything. Not surprised you'd be so against the truth. He's the one bragging about how he's winning at life all day every day. Hiding behind a computer screen pretending to be something he's not. As you know, I am against people hiding behind a computer. Which is why I offer to bet you every time you lie about me. Let's find out the truth. There's no excuse for the kind of cowardice you and him show.

WTF that deserves a ban if anything. he obviously stalked my facebook page, as I put up a post last year about an ex of mine that killed herself back in 2012. He's a scumbag, through and through.

When I asked you if you were Wilder's promoter would you let him fight on DAZN against a DAZN promoted fighter, you posted no you would advise Wilder not to take the deal. How then can you agree with this poster that DiBella has Wilder's best interest at hand if he tries to make a deal you as a promoter wouldn't advise him to take? It seems you and others want Wilder to take the money and give up his right to negotiate not only to earn more, but to have a say in the judges, venue and the ref and reduce his chances of winning if the fight doesn't end by KO for either. Why? I just have to laugh at the irony of the one guy who has no fiduciary duty to Wilder seems to be the only one actually acting as if he did. Lou was not Wilders promoter, at least not in practice. But yet he's the one who set up the meeting with DAZN, Shelly, and Haymon, so that Wilder could be presented a substantial offer. So the real question is not why Lou did that. The real question is why Shelley and Haymon didnt do it themselves. Why hadn't they already reached out to DAZN? Why would they not be interested in large offers for their clients (Wilder) services? Exactly who's interests are they giving priority to?