After the press conference, I did a little research into what were the projected PPV figures for the rematch. I found an article (I'm not sure if linking to other boxing sites is allowed) from July, where Arum genuinely thought the fight will do 4.6 million buys. I'm assuming this number has been rationalised a little now but given the fighters purses, do we have anything from a reliable source as to what the forecasted numbers are?
Curiously, I also found a post on wikipedia of all places, that stated the following; "Despite Frank Warren's original claim that the revenue would be split 50-50, it was revealed that if the fight generated 1 million PPV buys, Wilder could make $14 million (£11 million) and Fury would earn around $10.25 million (£8 million)."
Now if their first fight did 350k buys, (which from what I can gather is a financial success) I'm guessing neither fighter received their expected 14 and 10.25 million cheques. I'm wondering if this was the catalyst for Fury entertaining the ESPN deal, instead of taking the immediate rematch. I'm also curious as to where the success line for the rematch sits too?
I ask mostly because i'm quite concerned that if the numbers end up being poor, we are never likely to see the undisputed fight. I am actually dying to see it and will happily go to wherever the hell it ends up playing out (if it plays out). I say this because I feel like Hearn is being quite clever/sneaky af in his approach here, he's talking about a 50-50 being fair...then if and when the actuals fall short of the forecast, he can be like well this changes everything!!! 80-20 now seems closer to reality!
I think probably 400-500k, i think that would be a success. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s closer to 300k.
Probably another 200-250k in the UK, maybe less.
There isn’t much buzz for it. Neither are big draws really in USA. And in the UK, only the hardcore fans are really going to buy it and wait up til 5am.
Sometimes i think people are less interested when the first fight is deemed to be a robbery by the majority. I believe Canelo v GGG II did less numbers than the first and also didn’t have the same hype, i think for similar reasons.
You get a lot of people who know the result was bogus and they lose interest in a second fight because they feel they might be paying for something that is crooked.
Yeah, I agree so basically this. Maybe 550k but that could be pushing it.
“ if the fight generated 1 million PPV buys, Wilder could make $14 million (£11 million) and Fury would earn around $10.25 million (£8 million).”
Wow , if that is true then they are both being paid far less than any of us had predicted?
There isn’t even a undercard yet. That just shows you how bad it will be because all the $$$ going to Fury and Wilder purses.
$80 to watch one fight
$80 to see wilder throw 3 punches a round
$80 to see Fury do some funky dance
If the fight delivers the highlights will be on Social media outlets like Instagram, Facebook and Twitter seconds if something big happened. Lately these PPV’s have been lackluster except for Spence-Porter and Pacquiao-Thurman there’s no point of paying $80 to see these guys
probably 350k - 450k
The first fight did over 325k. Fury getting up went viral and received massive coverage. There's been over a year to build the rematch since. With ESPN and Fox both pushing it and both fighting raising their profile in a major way.
I would be absolutely shocked if the fight didn't do at least 500k, if not much more. I don't see any way in the world it only does 350k-450k.
Sometimes i think people are less interested when the first fight is deemed to be a robbery by the majority. I believe Canelo v GGG II did less numbers than the first and also didn’t have the same hype, i think for similar reasons.
This is something I hadn't considered actually, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of buzz about the fight but i'm still really intrigued to see it. Hopefully a lot of folks share a similar mindset and will tune in when it comes time.
So this is not a PPV fight it is manufactured, made up PPV fight. Like most of them are in this ear of boxing. Was a time when they could get money for PPV I hope that time has passed. If they charge about $20-25 they might pull people in and make some serious numbers and help boxing out by getting more buys and eye's on boxing but greedy second and third rate fights will not help fight fans or the fight game. Most of these guys putting out fights now would show aquatic life on the screen for PPV prices if they could get away with it they could care less about the fight game.
I think probably 400-500k, i think that would be a success. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s closer to 300k.
Probably another 200-250k in the UK, maybe less.
There isn’t much buzz for it. Neither are big draws really in USA. And in the UK, only the hardcore fans are really going to buy it and wait up til 5am.
Sometimes i think people are less interested when the first fight is deemed to be a robbery by the majority. I believe Canelo v GGG II did less numbers than the first and also didn’t have the same hype, i think for similar reasons.
You get a lot of people who know the result was bogus and they lose interest in a second fight because they feel they might be paying for something that is crooked.
It's hard to say until they've done the full promotion. But if you put me on the spot now I'd say 600-700k.
Lmfao at 700k. This is Deonte Wilder and year 2020.
There aint no 600-700K
I think it will do solid numbers. There’s enough intrigue after the first fight to suck in some casuals.
I don’t think it does a million PPV buys but could do 600k.
After the press conference, I did a little research into what were the projected PPV figures for the rematch. I found an article (I'm not sure if linking to other boxing sites is allowed) from July, where Arum genuinely thought the fight will do 4.6 million buys. I'm assuming this number has been rationalised a little now but given the fighters purses, do we have anything from a reliable source as to what the forecasted numbers are?
Curiously, I also found a post on wikipedia of all places, that stated the following; "Despite Frank Warren's original claim that the revenue would be split 50-50, it was revealed that if the fight generated 1 million PPV buys, Wilder could make $14 million (£11 million) and Fury would earn around $10.25 million (£8 million)."
Now if their first fight did 350k buys, (which from what I can gather is a financial success) I'm guessing neither fighter received their expected 14 and 10.25 million cheques. I'm wondering if this was the catalyst for Fury entertaining the ESPN deal, instead of taking the immediate rematch. I'm also curious as to where the success line for the rematch sits too?
I ask mostly because i'm quite concerned that if the numbers end up being poor, we are never likely to see the undisputed fight. I am actually dying to see it and will happily go to wherever the hell it ends up playing out (if it plays out). I say this because I feel like Hearn is being quite clever/sneaky af in his approach here, he's talking about a 50-50 being fair...then if and when the actuals fall short of the forecast, he can be like well this changes everything!!! 80-20 now seems closer to reality!
They stated the 1st fight was all 50-50 down the middle, used alot as a dig at Joshua not wanting to give 50-50. But then that turned out to be a lie cuz Fury was paid less than Wilder was. And i expect it to be the same again. They will once again lie about a 50-50 split cuz if they admitted it wasnt then that just makes them look like hypocrites concerning their demands with Joshua.
Im sure it will be rumoured to of done between 150k and 4.5 million. From PBC sources. But with people spending money in the Starbucks Coffee machine in the lobby the back end money is going to earn both fighters somewhere between 3.3 million and 87 million. From PBC sources.