Can we all agree Arum is mismanaging Crawford. And he needs to leave ASAP

Charlo doesn't have the big names on PBC side. He literally picked the one division where PBC doesn't have the other top fighters. At 147 & 154 where PBC does have the top fighters they're fighting significant fights. I don’t want to hear about promotion companies anymore. Bud has been number p4p for the past few years and nobody wants it except Porter’s dad. Bud almost fought Porter’s dad when he was a kid.

I don’t want to hear about promotion companies anymore. Bud has been number p4p for the past few years and nobody wants it except Porter’s dad. Bud almost for Porter’s dad when he was a kid.

He will never be a real PPV star... He likes his privacy and he aint with the theatrics. But u right time to stop only blaming Arum... And blame his ass for re-signing after seeing Bradley stuck and watching Manny leave. Cool you re-signed cuz it was good money, but don't complain about a position you put yourself in and seen happen to others. Don't move across the country then whine about your friends and family not visiting you lol Well Said! I Agree!

No! Time to stop blaming Arum honestly Gifted fighter one of the best P4P but lacks that "IT" factor and is not very marketable due to his dry and almost shy personality. This is a issue in boxing today all together most boxers today lack that Charisma to grab and keep the attention of casual viewers and ratings and PPV Buys shows that He will never be a real PPV star... He likes his privacy and he aint with the theatrics. But u right time to stop only blaming Arum... And blame his ass for re-signing after seeing Bradley stuck and watching Manny leave. Cool you re-signed cuz it was good money, but don't complain about a position you put yourself in and seen happen to others. Don't move across the country then whine about your friends and family not visiting you lol

No! Time to stop blaming Arum honestly Gifted fighter one of the best P4P but lacks that "IT" factor and is not very marketable due to his dry and almost shy personality. This is a issue in boxing today all together most boxers today lack that Charisma to grab and keep the attention of casual viewers and ratings and PPV Buys shows that

I feel like the plan was for TC to fight and beat Manny, like Bradley. Then it wouldn't look so bad with him going the toprank in-house fight route. But when the fight didn't go through and Manny left, the rug was pulled up from under them. Think about it.... If TC beat Manny Pacquaio he would be able to fight nobodies or guys like Khan for a while without his resume being criticised as much. Once Manny left.... Top Rank had no upside to stay (career wise) We have to blame him for re-signing and quit blaming PBC for politics that been existed and caused by BOTH sides

Maybe i should have used a different word. I aint mean money wise, TC picked money over legacy. He getting paid good but wasting his prime. I don't fault him as a man, taking care of his family. Im moreso speaking about his career and legacy. I understand what you mean-he could be on PBC cleaning out the division in a Usyk type way and making a claim as an ATG ww. I think the legacy thing is a bit overblown nowadays. We got dudes proclaiming guys are ATG's after their 10th fight. We got guys claiming dudes are ATG's based on their personal opinion of who was "robbed" or not. The comp for any boxer is never as bad as the idiot f-ckboys make it out to be and never as good as the cum gurglers post it is. That is why I like Cliff's system in the other thread. Takes all the BS out of it.

crawford signed with the wrong promoter. arum can't get him in there with pbc guys. i do think the fight with spence will eventually happen. only way either of those guys are in a successful ppv without being the b side to manny pacquiao. but in the meantime crawford could probably get more money, and he'd definitely have more names on his resume and star power, if he signed with haymon. After the fight with Manny didn't go through that should have been the que to not re-sign. Bradley atleast had Marquez and Manny before he began to run out of his opponents

No. It's PBC's fault that Crawford has been boxing got 12 years and his best win is Gamboa. That's all PBC's fault Lol... When in doubt blame PBC.... Lol

If you're Crawford you can't really complain because from all media accounts Bob over paid him to stay. I'm sure going on social media and the internet sites seeing all the negative stuff must piss him off but at the end of the day he got a fat check so I'm sure he's doing ok. Maybe i should have used a different word. I aint mean money wise, TC picked money over legacy. He getting paid good but wasting his prime. I don't fault him as a man, taking care of his family. Im moreso speaking about his career and legacy.

Charlo doesn't have the big names on PBC side. He literally picked the one division where PBC doesn't have the other top fighters. At 147 & 154 where PBC does have the top fighters they're fighting significant fights. Maybe Crawford just doesn't like the setup at PBC and doesn't want to be part of it? Did you ever even consider that?

crawford signed with the wrong promoter. arum can't get him in there with pbc guys. i do think the fight with spence will eventually happen. only way either of those guys are in a successful ppv without being the b side to manny pacquiao. but in the meantime crawford could probably get more money, and he'd definitely have more names on his resume and star power, if he signed with haymon.

Refuse to pay boxers to fight him, turning down fights, now using a fantasy MMA fight which he has no intentions of making to get all the gullible fans to eat up! He was doing the same with Manny throwing out names then turn around and kill Manny's drawing power matching him with nobodies! Don't let your hate for the other side make u believe or side with Snake Arum. He full of shyt... And always will be My two cents..... If you're Crawford you can't really complain because from all media accounts Bob over paid him to stay. I'm sure going on social media and the internet sites seeing all the negative stuff must piss him off but at the end of the day he got a fat check so I'm sure he's doing ok.

Im not speaking on money.... He obviously getting paid... But his prime being wasted. He the most skilled guy at 147 and he has the worst resume. Of course he aint complaining he getting paid big bucks fighting nobodies sitting on the P4p list living off his 140 days Again, if that makes him happy? If he’s comfortable with that how is he wasting his prime? I mean honestly the issue here is just how personal boxing fans want to get with a decision a fighter made. Nobody does this with tennis, hockey, etc. Crawford is clearly happy with his time in the sport..maybe his goal is the check. In this era isn’t that the case for every single fighter? All this being great..when they saw Floyd earn what he did mostly on low risk fights.

He could go to haymon and the PBC if he feels like becoming a lying ducker for the rest of his career. But right now is it bobs fault that the PBC champs won't fight his star Welter?

Bud already said he don’t want porter. Arum already said he would make the fight of porter and bud want it. So how is he mismanaging his career? What has he done at 147.... How is he making any progress outside of collecting checks? Why is Arum dangling this BS MMA fantasy fight ( which aint gonna happen) while he continue to fight nobodies. Why Arum turn down Brook who called him out. That would have been his best opponent.

... when fanboys think they’re promoters.

Money wise no...not at all. Im speaking legacy, resume, etc. I feel like Arum aint doing what he should be to get him fights. Crawford vs Porter should have been signed sealed and ready. Then go from there. But fighting nobodies, bringing up fantasy mma fights for publicity how is that helping him? Before Spence got into wreck we already knew Garcia was his next fight. He obviously not gonna fight Crawford next coming off a car Wreck... So why not fight Porter? I love Crawford i think he the most skilled guy at 147... I don't wanna see him Rot at 147 waiting for Spence he could be building his name at 147. Not living off of 140 Bud already said he don’t want porter. Arum already said he would make the fight of porter and bud want it. So how is he mismanaging his career?

Yeah, because Provodnikov was such a walk in the park

I don’t think he’s mismanaging him at all. It’s be nice if we had all the fighters under one umbrella or Haymon wasn’t playing some monopoly game, but each of the promoters has a weakness/leverage in different places. Haymon wouldn’t know what to do with Crawford, just like he hasn’t a clue what to do with his own fighters in case you hadn’t noticed. You think Crawford’s resume right now is bad, I dread to think what Crawfords resume would be under PBC and their safety first mentality. Spence-Crawford likely still wouldn’t happen with Crawford under PBC, Crawford likely still wouldn’t fight Porter since he’s been saying for fuking years Porter is a last option. Him and Garcia probably could happen though. Dunno why that doesn’t happen. I’d say wait and see. I’D like to see the plan you got for Crawford.