Obviously this comes from the word that Joshua may be looking to put another, YES another offer to Deontay Wilder.
Ive been reading posts on here from Wilder fans and ive been listening to a Youtube phone in show (TBV) and all im getting is denial, bags of denial, "Joshua dont want that smoke" "Joshua is lying" along with many comments and phone calls saying Wilder should NOT take it anyway and some of the reasons given is Wilder is now the A side and deserves the bigger split.
Ive no problem with anybody thinking Wilder beats Joshua but im getting the impression Wilders fans dont want Wilder to actually take the fight or take the risk of losing, especially to Joshua. What the hell is wrong with these people? Are you even really Boxing fans? Im a big Joshua fan and i really want that undisputed fight for Joshua and i also believe Wilder has a big chance of winning that fight YET I STILL WANT THAT FIGHT. Whats wrong with you guys?
If Joshua makes Wilder an offer you should want him to take it, literally everybody else does.
So they'll make 7.5 mil instead if 2.5? :rofl:
Their first fight did over $25 million on US PPV alone. Plus live gate, UK PPV, international TV, the delayed broadcast on Showtime, sponsorships, etc.
And you think the fighters only made 2.5 million?
Do you see why you come across as a total troll?
Ypu think Fury is going to make 30 mil for a Wilder fight? :rofl: Where's that coming from Haymon's magic pockets?
Wait for the PPV numbers to come in. Between Fox and ESPN pushing the fight, they will do over double what they did the first time, if not triple. UK PPV will be way up as well.
I could easily counter what you said cuz you just lie.
Then do it. Go back to that post and tell me what was a lie. Every single thing in that post was true.
Joshua offered Fury 20+ milllion for a fight he turned it down to fight Wilder for less.
And now he's fighting Wilder for 30+ million. So why was it a mistake to turn down 20 million? He just made 20 million between the two tomato cans he fought on ESPN. Joshua vs Fury when both were undefeated would have been a massive fight. 20 million for that fight was an insulting offer.
Wilder turned down offers of over 100 mil.
It was four fights for over 100 million. Funny how you left that little detail out.
Nonsense. The offers to Wilder were bigger than a purse he would have generated on PPV. It would need to sell over 2 mil to make the kind of money he was offered and we all know it wouldn't have done that. So just stop your BS.
We all don't know anything. You can't just arbitrarily put a cap on how many PPV sales there would be.
Face it, no smart promoter is going to give every advantage to AJ just because Hearn threw a lot of money at them. Yeah that will work with Bulgarian slugs and guys that are also promoted by Hearn, but not Haymon.
If I was lying, you would have been able to counter what I wrote. Since every single thing you quoted was completely true, you knew you couldn't counter what I wrote. So instead you ignored it all.
I could easily counter what you said cuz you just lie. But the fact you hide behind these lies makes any countering pointless. You lie too much and dismiss the actual facts.
Terrible excuse. If they don;t fight they make nothing. :lol1::dunce:
Robbie, I get AJ should have the advantages because he is the a side. That stated, I think we can agree no one involved in the fight is going to have it in a way that doesn't maximize the amount of revenue generated.
Not an excuse, just the reality.
Been the same for the past couple of years. Joshua fans saying Wilder should accept the offers, Wilder fans making excuses for him and saying he shouldn't. Shows they have no confidence in the guy and they know who the best HW is.
of course you guys tell wilder to accept an offer to fight a dazn promoted fighter on dazn. That way Hearn controls everything and the fight doesn't make as much as it could. Typical British intelligence.
Were saying America is still the mecca for boxing, More revenue is generated from a PPV fight held in America, especially in Las Veags, than a dazn exclusive held in the UK on an app that hasn't even broken 1 mil subs in the USA. Revenue is also maximized if the is on in prime time in the USA, not 5:00PM in the afternoon.
In other words, wilder will fight when you imbeciles wake up to the economic realities of the situation.
AJ fans as well, some of them seems to want to continue to downplay Wilder as an excuse for AJ NOT to make that fight
AJ fans are getting desperate because deep down they know Wilder wanted the fight more than AJ wanted it. Their actions clearly showed that. Now AJ has been repeatedly knocked down and destroyed. On top of that, Wilder is fighting Fury, who is held in higher regard than Joshua now, while AJ is fighting Pulev, who isn't held in high regard.
So how can you really claim Wilder is afraid when he's taking an even bigger risk than Joshua would be? While Joshua is clearly fighting a fighter that's a level below Wilder.
AJ fans as well, some of them seems to want to continue to downplay Wilder as an excuse for AJ NOT to make that fight
That Power have some fans very nervous but they will never admit it so it is BOTH SIDES not just 1 of you
Stop acting like Groupie for Fighters and pressure them to truly be Great and FIGHT EACH OTHER! Stop trying to make excuses to not make this fight which is what a lot of you do...Including you who like to blame one side while acting like a Groupie B#tch to all things attacked to AJ
Act like MEN for once and not like Teenage Girls :nonono:
They're ALL overrated as F#CK...how about that! :dunno:
Like i said. You are the biggest liar in the crew.
If I was lying, you would have been able to counter what I wrote. Since every single thing you quoted was completely true, you knew you couldn't counter what I wrote. So instead you ignored it all.
You must not be very good at them then ,if AJ was your client you would be telling him Wilder isn’t available to move on
It's a publicity stunt. Wilder is tied up right now. As is Joshua. Since there is no chance of the fight actually happening, Joshua's side is pretending they want the fight. Same strategy they've employed all along. If Wilder calls their bluff and buys his way out of the rematch clause, Hearn will just invent a new excuse.
They clearly don't want to see the fight.
They're not boxing fans, they're ghetto trash crack addicts who started taking an interest in him because of his ethnicity, nationality, KO highlights and patriotism.
They don't like the Brits running the heavyweight division so they will back their belt holder regardless of the crappy fights he takes because as long as he doesn't lose, they can claim he's the best.
Find me an AJ fan that doesn't want the Wilder fight to happen.
One side is scared to lose, one side isn't.That is a bunch of bull. AJ looked like garbage losing to Ruiz and he did not lookl a whole lot better beating a horribly fat and poorly trained Ruiz by a smart but extremely cautious careful hit and run fight after promising a brutal KO of Ruiz. AJ doesn't scare anyone anymore. Those days are gone. Wilder has speed and reach over AJ so he can't beat him the same way he beat Ruiz. He would have to exchange with him and take risks. The Brits stopped dominating the heavyweight division when AJ got KOed and they didn't regain that position with AJ's win over Ruiz in the rematch. It's up for grabs now with the winner of the Wilder vs Fury winner deciding which country is stronger at heavyweight. Wilder fans don't fear a Wilder vs AJ fight. They looked forward to it because they think Wilder will KO the chinny AJ. If they didn't think he could be AJ and any other heavyweight they would not be big Wilder fans. Wilder has only a disputed draw marring his record against a top 1 ,2 or 3 rated Heavyweight in Fury while AJ has a KO lose to a huge underdog.
Obviously they want to see the fight because Wilder would knock AJ out easily (Unless Aj requests an even bigger ring again so he can jab and run all fight). AJ is an inferior opponent to Fury and Ortiz
lmaoooooooooo they are definitely hurt bro, I wonder what exactly do these threads do for them daily, its sad to see but funny at the same time. All those years of clowning Floyd now look, aj does his impersonation of bambi in the ring and its a masterclass. Man ruiz whooped his azz
My dude, lot of fans on NSB try to act like they care more about the art of the sport than winning. They are all ***************ing lying everytime they post this.
We all want our favorites to win. Once AJ got waxed, those guys are smart enough to know the way you win is box and move and make Ruiz fight 12 rounds since he looks so out of shape. They had to embrace the style. Now Robbie Barret is a Floyd fan so his issues are just anti-American. Guys like daNuetral, yeah his inner psyche was hurt.
before joshua got knocked around the ring and stopped by andy ruiz i wanted it more than any other fight in boxing since manny and floyd were in their primes.
that said, joshua dind't only get knocked out by ruiz, he got beaten up and stopped. we needed to see if joshua wasn't just smoke and mirrors. so after that i wanted to see him rematch ruiz, and i wanted to see wilder and fury finish what they started.
always thought fury would beat wilder and joshua, but styles make fights and so does atmosphere, so wilder and joshua was the big one in everyone's eyes and for very good reason. two huge punchers, very prime and aggressive, ina fight almost surely to end with a crazy knockout.
now i'd like to see wilder vs fury winner fight joshua. that's very likely to be fury, and i expect him to come out on top against joshua as well if he can get back to his old form. styles make fights and fury is not easy to hit at 6'9" and with defense on his mind.
So you saying Wilder was ready to jump at the chance to fight Joshua but circumstances changed that and so Al Haymon had to plan accordingly?
I am saying AJ probably wasn't going to do both mandos in 2020 before he lost to Ruiz. He was probably going to get rid of Pulev in 2019, then Usyk, then do the wilder fight late 2020.
Once he lost, now he had to decide if he was going to exercise the immediate rematch. Once he decided to, that changed the plans.
If he won, he had the 2 mandos to fulfill to keep all 3 belts. If he lost, now Haymon can make the Ruiz/Wilder fight without any problem because Wilder/Fury wasn't signed yet.
I've taken a lot of shots at you Brits in fun. each time I do, I also state clearly we all understand why AJ is fighting the mandos in 2020. Handle your business, make the huge paydays, reestablish your name for any doubters.
You guys are just so caught up in"ducking" and trying to make Wilder look bad because AJ got embarrassed. Let it go dude, you can't ever erase the Ruiz loss.
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