Wilder and Fury are biggest threats to each other and Joshua than the other way

He doesn't have to. He can just change his strategy and wait for the right moment to tag Joshua. Except Joshua is a more skilled boxer than him at any range. He can cause Wilder problems with the jab if Wilder trys to stay at distance. Who cares. None of the fighters Joshua beat had the power, speed, mobility and reach/height. Wlad would have knocked Wilder out, which is why Wilder never faced him. Povetkin and Whyte would have been good challenges for Wilder too, and on par with the Ortiz win if he beat them. Joshua has KO'd better fighters than Wilder has, fact. what makes yu think Joshua's power is so much greater than Washington's or Ortiz? When did they KO guys on the level of Wlad, Povetkin and Whyte? when was the last time Wilder was Ko'ed again? How many high level boxer punchers has Wilder fought again? I count one. ****, how many big punchers has Wilder faced - period? Because he has poor punching resistance and Wilder is the hardest puncher in the division and arguably in heavyweight history? Don't you see how these 2 factors could be an issue if they went toe to toe? Wilder is chinny himself, hes been rocked by lesser opposition than Joshua has. Hes also not as skilled or versatile as Joshua and Joshua hits harder than anyone he has been in there with. Dont you see how those factors could be an issue? And you're right, they dont have the same attributes at all. Ruiz was fatter, shorter, with a shorter reach, and less power. And we all saw what happened when Josh tried to go toe to toe with him. And how he won the rematch. You're conveniently leaving out that Ruiz throws hooks, uppercuts and body shots in bunches, and has fast, tight hands, a good chin and head movement. While Wilder likes to snipe from distance with 1 or 2 shots at a time. He cannot work in close, he cant throw crisp rapid fire combos, he gets telegraphed and starts windmilling when he panics and often gets tagged and hurt. Totally different situations. You put Wilder in the same scenario that Ruiz/AJ were in the first fight at that same range throwing multiple shots and AJ likely has the advantage. Plus whos to say Wilder reacts anywhere near as well to that (iirc) uppercut/left hook as Ruiz did? something tells me a short 260lb Mexican probably has a better chin than a 6'7 borderline cruiserweight with skinny legs... No, he couldn't "easily" catch Wilder with anything. Wilder is not has easy to find as you people make him out to be. Wilder is very spry, and could keep Joshua at bay with his length and mobility. Doesnt matter how good Joshua is at close range if he doesnt't get there. And with all that talk about Joshua's skill set, I still havent seen him throw a pivot on the backfoot, which Wildercan do in his sleep. Ortiz, Fury, Breazele, Washington, Molina, Sconiers et al have all found him and hurt him but you think Joshua cant? not to mention Wlad is around the same height/reach as Wilder and a far more skilled boxer and AJ was able to get to him.. Bottom line, Joshua has a chance, but his flaws vs Wilder's strenghts make him a much easier fight for him than Fury, and anyone who's objective will agree. This is a man he almost lost to for fock's sake. Is it really so hard to understand that AJ brings a combination of boxing ability, punching power and size that Wilder has not dealt with before? just remember what Wilder himself says about Fury - "he has to be perfect for 12 rounds", he is fully aware that Fury will give him plenty of time to head hunt without worrying about return fire, Joshua will not.

Thanks ,I don’t think today’s fans realize one fight doesn’t erase the others. It’s like calling Mike Tyson glass jaw because Douglas knocked him out and ignore the Ruddock and Bruno fights around that time span . The Wilder fans are so bad I’m assuming if Mike Tyson was around today even they can make him disliked, they certainly did it with Wilder who is a actually not the most easy to watch for true fans of the boxing art . Smiles....... All you have said is true. If not for a potential KO expected from his fights, his boxing style is crap. You will barely see 3000 persons come watch his fight. Its as boring as fcck.

So much crap in this post, don't know where to begin. I can think of one pretty game changing thing in Joshuas skillset that Fury doesnt bring - actual serious KO power. Wilder can bank on getting a full 12 rounds to land the shot he needs vs Fury, and can be as aggressive as he wants pursuing it without having to worry about return fire. But if he gets outboxed for long spells by Joshua and/or gets caught slipping in an exchange hes likely to end up in a world of ****. He doesn't have to. He can just change his strategy and wait for the right moment to tag Joshua. Have no idea why you would assume he would fight completely 2 different fighters the same way. Lol @ talking about Joshua needing to go to decision to beat Wilder, are you forgetting the guy has KO wins over Wlad, Povetkin and Whyte? are you also forgetting that Wilder has been tagged and rocked multiple times by bums like Washington and Molina, hurt by relatively pillowfisted Fury and put out on his feet for a good 30 seconds by old man Ortiz? Who cares. None of the fighters Joshua beat had the power, speed, mobility and reach/height. ANd what makes yu think Joshua's power is so much greater than Washington's or Ortiz? And when was the last time Wilder was Ko'ed again? And yeah, Joshua absolutely has a chance against Wilder in a firefight. Not sure why anyone would think he wouldnt, and please dont bring up AJ/Ruiz 1 as though Ruiz and Wilder have anywhere near the same attributes or style. AJ is the more compact, efficient and varied puncher than Wilder, can still work at closer ranges and puts his shots together better. He could easily catch Wilder with a left hook or the same uppercut he caught Wlad with in an exchange. Because he has poor punching resistance and Wilder is the hardest puncher in the division and arguably in heavyweight history? Don't you see how these 2 factors could be an issue if they went toe to toe? And why wouldn't I bring up Ruiz, when you just brought up Molina and Gerald Washington? lol And you're right, they dont have the same attributes at all. Ruiz was fatter, shorter, with a shorter reach, and less power. And we all saw what happened when Josh tried to go toe to toe with him. And how he won the rematch. AJ is the more compact, efficient and varied puncher than Wilder, can still work at closer ranges and puts his shots together better. He could easily catch Wilder with a left hook or the same uppercut he caught Wlad with in an exchange. No, he couldn't "easily" catch Wilder with anything. Wilder is not has easy to find as you people make him out to be. Wilder is very spry, and could keep Joshua at bay with his length and mobility. Doesnt matter how good Joshua is at close range if he doesnt't get there. And with all that talk about Joshua's skill set, I still havent seen him throw a pivot on the backfoot, which Wildercan do in his sleep. Bottom line, Joshua has a chance, but his flaws vs Wilder's strenghts make him a much easier fight for him than Fury, and anyone who's objective will agree. This is a man he almost lost to for fock's sake.

AJ is aggressive with power jabs that makes him Wilders most dangerous opponent . While Fury should win vs Wilder he likes to move around a lot and dare guys to catch him so that means he’s more susceptible to getting caught though that’s not the reason last time . Fury has better chance of defeating AJ than Wilder does , AJ has a better chance at Wilder , both defeat Wilder . My concern with AJ being able to beat wilder ( i will be rooting for AJ but picking wilder ) is actually his jab . He pulls it back low and it is constantly lazy . That is the easiest way to get stretched by a right hand . If AJ wants to beat wilder he needs to maul him get inside and chop him down and stop him . If AJ tries to box behind the jab he gets stopped violently imo . None of those lazy ass jabs to the sternum . Tight range finding jabs ,soem head movement and attack like hes best at .if u fight wilder on the inside his power isnt as devastating. And his jab has regressed since stiverne 1 . If wilder focused on his jab the last 5 years like Lennox was telling him he would have beat fury and he would beat AJ unless he got caught , but he seems in love with his power ( I cant really blame him but one day it wonr bail him out ).

Not a chance, especially considering Wilder almost lost to Fury. Joshua is not a risky fight for Wilder, especially when we factor in the compensation. There's nothing in Joshua's skill set that is as dangerous to Wilder as Fury's. Fury is Wilder's biggest threat. Bar none. And if Joshua wins, it would be by decision. Anyone who thinks he gets out of a firefight against Wilder on his two legs is either biased or stupid. We have actual tape of the guy. I can think of one pretty game changing thing in Joshuas skillset that Fury doesnt bring - actual serious KO power. Wilder can bank on getting a full 12 rounds to land the shot he needs vs Fury, and can be as aggressive as he wants pursuing it without having to worry about return fire. But if he gets outboxed for long spells by Joshua and/or gets caught slipping in an exchange hes likely to end up in a world of ****. Lol @ talking about Joshua needing to go to decision to beat Wilder, are you forgetting the guy has KO wins over Wlad, Povetkin and Whyte? are you also forgetting that Wilder has been tagged and rocked multiple times by bums like Washington and Molina, hurt by relatively pillowfisted Fury and put out on his feet for a good 30 seconds by old man Ortiz? And yeah, Joshua absolutely has a chance against Wilder in a firefight. Not sure why anyone would think he wouldnt, and please dont bring up AJ/Ruiz 1 as though Ruiz and Wilder have anywhere near the same attributes or style. AJ is the more compact, efficient and varied puncher than Wilder, can still work at closer ranges and puts his shots together better. He could easily catch Wilder with a left hook or the same uppercut he caught Wlad with in an exchange.

Fury has skills but no power. Wilder has power but no skills. Joshua has both. :boxing: You have a reductive view of what "skills" are. For one, I would say Joshua is more educated and polished then skilled. And his skill set is not beneficial against Wilder. Fury's was. Namely his upper body movement, footwork, and head movement, all areas where Joshua is somewhat deficient. But Joshua is a bigger risk to Wilder than Fury is, and the way Wilder would lose that fight would hurt his image much worse. Not a chance, especially considering Wilder almost lost to Fury. Joshua is not a risky fight for Wilder, especially when we factor in the compensation. There's nothing in Joshua's skill set that is as dangerous to Wilder as Fury's. Fury is Wilder's biggest threat. Bar none. And if Joshua wins, it would be by decision. Anyone who thinks he gets out of a firefight against Wilder on his two legs is either biased or stupid. We have actual tape of the guy.

Said it all along, Fury won't go near Joshua. Big boxer gets beaten by a big boxer puncher. He can't take as many shots as he would over 12 rounds from Joshua. Boxer v Puncher is a much better fight for him.

Wilder is possibly a bigger threat to Fury than AJ is because he has more one shot lights out power. But Joshua is a bigger risk to Wilder than Fury is, and the way Wilder would lose that fight would hurt his image much worse. Joshua is the 2nd or 3rd most skilled boxer Wilder will have faced (behind Fury and maaaaaybe Ortiz) as well as being the biggest puncher and most dangerous offensively. He has the combination of being able to outbox Wilder and also hurt him badly while hes doing it. Fury doesnt bring that. Ortiz is maybe the only guy Wilder has ever faced that could bring that to a high level.

Hurting Wilder doesn’t necessarily mean AJ gets hurt both fought Breazeale and Molina , Wilder was rocked bad in one and stunned in the other , AJ walked through these guys punches ,Wilder in the Breazeale case only got caught once and it wasn’t flush either . I’ve also seen Wilder like a deer in head lights getting caught with jabs that have him freeze up . If someone’s chin is proven it’s the guy who fights the most power punchers and that’s AJ . Parker , Whyte Povetkin , Klitschko , Breazeale , Ruiz , Martin , these guys have above decent power to great . Your analysis is top notch.

Joshua got dropped by a Wladimir Klitschko who wasn't in his prime + destroyed by Ruiz even touching the canvas 4 times while Deontay & Fury remain undefeated. Luis Ortiz hardly losses any round and would give Anthony the work Someone ran under the rock when offered a life changing money to step up. Let's just pretend nothing happened.

I favour Fury to outbox Joshua but AJ is very well schooled and I don't think it will be as easy as people make it out to be. Fury is often credited as this masterful boxer but he really isn't as untouchable as people make out, I see people almost trying to lump AJ alongside Wilder as being equally unable to deal with Fury's movement and style...... Joshua is at least a few steps ahead in terms of boxing skill and uses his left hook.

Fury has skills but no power. Wilder has power but no skills. Joshua has both. :boxing:Not as simple as that Robbie but kind of on the right lines 😉

Hurting Wilder doesn’t necessarily mean AJ gets hurt both fought Breazeale and Molina , Wilder was rocked bad in one and stunned in the other , AJ walked through these guys punches ,Wilder in the Breazeale case only got caught once and it wasn’t flush either . I’ve also seen Wilder like a deer in head lights getting caught with jabs that have him freeze up . If someone’s chin is proven it’s the guy who fights the most power punchers and that’s AJ . Parker , Whyte Povetkin , Klitschko , Breazeale , Ruiz , Martin , these guys have above decent power to great . The combination of superior boxing ability AND knockout power will likely be a combination too far for Joshua though. None of the above have the movement that Fury possesses.

yeah man, if Fury KO's Wilder then what would he lack? He can outbox Josh already, if he can hurt Josh too I think he's taken Joshua's only real advantage away. Yeah, despite losing that weight for the Ruiz rematch, he won't be able to close the distance to get inside of Fury quick enough. We all know Fury likes to throw a looping uppercut too. Ask his forehead.

Joshua got dropped by a Wladimir Klitschko who wasn't in his prime + destroyed by Ruiz even touching the canvas 4 times while Deontay & Fury remain undefeated. Luis Ortiz hardly losses any round and would give Anthony the work We get it, you don't rate Joshua. Some short term memories around here. 1. Steve Cunningham put Fury on the canvas hard. Steve Cunningham. A Cruiserweight who was 36. 2. You don't have to be in your prime to be able to knock somebody down. 3. Anthony Joshua fought Wladimir Klitschko in his 19th fight. Tyson Fury fought Vinny Maddalone (35-7) and Deontay Wilder fought Daniel Cota (17-3-1) in their 19th fights, respectively. So lets not forget that Joshua fought in an epic to become Unified HW Champ whilst Fury and Wilder fought nobodies. 4. Ortiz had his chance but his team let him down by not accepting the offer to fight Joshua, in MSG on 1st June. Ortiz ducked Joshua, not the other way around. 5. Ortiz, the bogeyman, who was taken 10 rounds by Travis Kauffman!! :rofl: Ortiz gave Wilder work, twice. You admitted it yourself, he didn't lose a round. Who cares if he gave Wilder work or would test Joshua...likelihood is that Joshua would KO Ortiz too. 6. Most un-biased people would agree that Fury beat Wilder so really; Wilder isn't undefeated.

Fury has skills but no power. Wilder has power but no skills. Joshua has both. :boxing: Probably this, although my pessimistic attitude towards these three now makes me wonder if, after all of the debate, we will ever get a proper answer. If Fury shows off enough power to put Wilder to sleep, then I think he'll put Joshua away too.

Fury can outbox both wilder and aj. Both Would be tough but outboxing wilder for 36 minutes was proven to be a very difficult task. Even for an elusive guy like him. Though i thought he won that one. I think fury would have a better not necessarily easier time with AJ. and could possibly hurt him as well.. though not as hard as joshua can hurt fury. I hope fury comes out on top Among these 3. With wilder koing joshua too. And joshua koing wilder in the rematch lol.

Joshua got dropped by a Wladimir Klitschko who wasn't in his prime + destroyed by Ruiz even touching the canvas 4 times while Deontay & Fury remain undefeated. Luis Ortiz hardly losses any round and would give Anthony the work