Wilder Isn't His Own Boss

Get the fuck outta here with that old Goddamned bullshit! Wilder took the fight with Fury because he couldn't get Anthony Joshua's name on a fucking contract or in a fucking ring for that matter after agreeing to all of Joshua's demands, terms and conditions. AJ cowardly ass ran and ducked for cover by fighting Alexander Povetkin instead. Which is why he was stuck with fighting Tyson Fury in the first place; A man he didn't want to fight because he held no titles, cards, leverage or chips at the bargaining table and had everything to gain; While Wilder had everything to lose. Therefore, the fight was nothing more than a gift to boxing fans because Fury had nothing that Deontay Wilder wanted. He only fought Tyson on the rebound after the AJ talks fell through. Fury stepped up, requested and volunteered a fight with Wilder after Joshua so badly disgraced and dishonoured Great Britain with his cowardice. So next time, in the future go back and do your fucking research before spatting off stupid asinine shit that you have no prior knowledge of; You dumb motherfucker! By the way Breazeale was his fucking mandatory and Wilder didn't want to fight him either but had to if he was going to keep his WBC heavyweight title. I'm sorry did i hit a nerve on your azz crack? how wilder has fans is beyond me. If you eat up the bs you speak you an even bigger fool. wilder wanted 50/50 to even begin to talk about negotiations in the aj fight. truth is wilder don't sell as well as aj. I don't understand why people get so upset about that. Even tough wilder is this big dude ko ing everybody he can't sell well. I don't know why, but it is what it is. as for aj being scared cmon man you know you wrong for that. keep in mind we are talking about wilder for christ's sake, let that sink in a little.

wow, im shocked i didn't realize i wanted to see the breazele fight or the second ortiz fight too. The only reason wilder agreed to the fury fight it was cause wilders people knew fury had been off for a while, knew that was the perfect time/less risk for wilder, boy did that go wrong. Get the fuck outta here with that old Goddamned bullshit! Wilder took the fight with Fury because he couldn't get Anthony Joshua's name on a fucking contract or in a fucking ring for that matter after agreeing to all of Joshua's demands, terms and conditions. AJ cowardly ass ran and ducked for cover by fighting Alexander Povetkin instead. Which is why he was stuck with fighting Tyson Fury in the first place; A man he didn't want to fight because he held no titles, cards, leverage or chips at the bargaining table and had everything to gain; While Wilder had everything to lose. Therefore, the fight was nothing more than a gift to boxing fans because Fury had nothing that Deontay Wilder wanted. He only fought Tyson on the rebound after the AJ talks fell through. Fury stepped up, requested and volunteered a fight with Wilder after Joshua so badly disgraced and dishonoured Great Britain with his cowardice. So next time, in the future go back and do your fucking research before spatting off stupid asinine shit that you have no prior knowledge of; You dumb motherfucker! By the way Breazeale was his fucking mandatory and Wilder didn't want to fight him either but had to if he was going to keep his WBC heavyweight title.

wow, im shocked i didn't realize i wanted to see the breazele fight or the second ortiz fight too. The only reason wilder agreed to the fury fight it was cause wilders people knew fury had been off for a while, knew that was the perfect time/less risk for wilder, boy did that go wrong.Get the fuck outta here with that old Goddamned bullshit! Wilder took the fight with Fury because he couldn't get Anthony Joshua's name on a fucking contract or in a fucking ring for that matter after agreeing to all of Joshua's demands, terms and conditions. AJ cowardly ass ran and ducked for cover by fighting Alexander Povetkin instead. Which is why he was stuck with fighting Tyson Fury; A man he didn't want to fight because he held no titles, cards, leverage or chips at the bargaining table and had everything to gain; While Wilder had everything to lose. Therefore, the fight was nothing more than a gift to boxing fans because Fury had nothing that Deontay Wilder wanted. He only fought Tyson on the rebound after the AJ talks fell through. Fury stepped up, requested and volunteered a fight with Wilder after Joshua so badly disgraced and dishonoured Great Britain with his cowardice. So next time, in the future go back and do your fucking research before spatting off stupid asinine shit that you have no prior knowledge of; You dumb motherfucker!

The only reason wilder agreed to the fury fight it was cause wilders people knew fury had been off for a while, knew that was the perfect time/less risk for wilder, boy did that go wrong.Get the fuck outta here with that old Goddamned bullshit! Wilder took the fight with Fury because he couldn't get Anthony Joshua's name on a fucking contract or in a fucking ring for that matter after agreeing to all of Joshua's demands, terms and conditions. AJ cowardly ass ran and ducked for cover by fighting Alexander Povetkin instead. Which is why he was stuck with fighting Tyson Fury; A man he didn't want to fight because he held no titles, cards, leverage or chips at the bargaining table and had everything to gain; While Wilder having everything to lose. Therefore, the fight was nothing more than a gift to boxing fans because Fury had nothing that Deontay Wilder wanted. He only fought Tyson on the rebound after the AJ talks fell through. Fury stepped up, requested and volunteered a fight with Wilder after Joshua so badly disgraced and dishonoured Great Britain with his cowardice. So next time, in the future go back and do your fucking research before spatting off stupid asinine shit that you have no prior knowledge of. You dumb motherfucker!

No, it's because Deontay dared to bet on himself and take risks. In 2018 he fought a dangerous undefeated fighter in Luis Ortiz and then followed that up with a match up against an undefeated Tyson Fury. Then he had subsequent KOs of both Dominic Breazeale and Luis Ortiz again in 2019 and now is going to rush back in the ring with a rematch against Tyson Fury in early 2020 which is unheard of. The Bronze Bomber is giving us boxing fans the fights that we want to see. Eddie Hearn has nothing to do with Wilder career moves because they are too risky and they all fell upon the responsibility of Deontay Wilder's shoulders. wow, im shocked i didn't realize i wanted to see the breazele fight or the second ortiz fight too. The only reason wilder agreed to the fury fight it was cause wilders people knew fury had been off for a while, knew that was the perfect time/less risk for wilder, boy did that go wrong.

You said he ran away after responding to my post which stated it was AJs 17th fight , which was 2016 , sober up I think your drinking ? Ha I meant after his Showtime deal ended. After they wasted everyone’s time negotiating the 1st go around.

You said he left for DAZN when fighting Breazeale , clown .That fight took place in 2016. DAZN didn’t even exist in 2017 anyway they were established in 2018 with connections to AJ, clown . Ha I never said that jackass. I was talking about Wilder and Breazele and it was a joke. You sheep believe everything Hearn says. And before the Fury fight Hearn was running around telling everyone Wilder and Breazele was signed.

You said he left for DAZN when fighting Breazeale , clown .That fight took place in 2016. DAZN didn’t even exist in 2017 anyway they were established in 2018 with connections to AJ, clown . Ha I never said that jackass. I was talking about Wilder and Breazele.

yeah he ran in order to make a lot more money with dazn. wilder ran and made less money. kinda the opposite but nice try You have no idea if he made a lot more money, tbh, especially with the vast majority of Joshua's money still coming from UK/Europe. Two matinee fights, and the MSG debut. Wilder walked from the deal, got $10m+ in fighting Fury, got $10m+ to fight Breazeale, got $10m+ for the Ortiz rematch, and will likely see $10m+ on the Fury rematch too. Wouldn't surprise me if he's over $50m for those 4 fights. Compare that to a Joshua deal that, would've paid him $20m for his mandatory, but left him with his dick in his hand while Joshua tries to fix his mess (with the $40m/fight paydays on ice too). Freedom is a beautiful thing

You said he left for DAZN when fighting Breazeale , clown .That fight took place in 2016. DAZN didn’t even exist in 2017 anyway they were established in 2018 with connections to AJ, clown . Ha I never said that jackass.

Wilder didn’t run anywhere he’s just not fighting on DAZN. Besides that deal wasn’t that great. It was a 4 fight deal. Joshua just got 60 million for fighting Ruiz. That makes Wilders offer look like a slave deal. Joshua gets it cos he makes it rain, Wilder can't fill a town hall.

DAZN did not exist in U.K / U.S market in 2016 you mental case . Who said anything about 2016? He didn’t even fight Wlad until April 2017 you damn jackass.

huh? locked into a 3 fight deal? OH NO! how is he capitalizing on not fighting joshua? by making less money? yes he should have taken the deal, become a free agent, and signed an even bigger deal next time. instead he complained about how he would be locked into a deal, took a worse deal, and made less money. that showed um! yeah but the problem is now we see his drawing power is very limited. if the fury rematch flops which is most likely will, why would anyone want to offer wilder such huge money again? the 100 million was based on potential drawing power. now that we see his drawing power is limited its much more of a gamble to overpay a guy when you know he's not a big star Not many fighters out there is putting up better numbers than him. Since Floyd v Manny PPV numbers have been down across the board. And you act like Wilder is on welfare or something. He’s already made more money than he could’ve ever hoped for. And like I said earlier all he has to do is beat Fury and they are right back where they were 18 months ago.

but he makes more money there so why would he do that? he's not wilder. he went to wherever paid him the most. wilder did the opposite. why dont you tell wilder to drop pbc and sign with dazn? wouldn't that be the easiest solution? that way both guys can make more money and the fight can happen. not sure why you want to do some convoluted way where they both have to sacrifice money and fight on a flop ppv.It's because of Eddie Hearn's involvement in the promotion. Deontay Wilder has lost absolutely all of his trust in the man period. They can do it for at least two fights over at the PBC. Joshua can sign with the PBC for at least two fights so the fans can get the fight that we've all been waiting for for several years now.

Wilder would fuck Joshua up. All AJ has to is dump Matchroom and sign with the PBC and the fight is own like a pot of neck bones. but he makes more money there so why would he do that? he's not wilder. he went to wherever paid him the most. wilder did the opposite. why dont you tell wilder to drop pbc and sign with dazn? wouldn't that be the easiest solution? that way both guys can make more money and the fight can happen. not sure why you want to do some convoluted way where they both have to sacrifice money and fight on a flop ppv.

It definitely would’ve projected his star power but he would’ve been locked in his deal with no way to capitalize on it. Look at what happened to Ruiz. And they weren’t interested in a 4 fight deal. That was a no go from the get go. You can say Wilder was getting his head filled by his handlers. I agree with you there. It is Al Haymon. Who wouldn’t listen to Al Haymon. He’s always done right by Wilder to this point. All he has to do is beat Fury and their right back where they were 18 months ago. A big fight with Joshua staring them right in the face. huh? locked into a 3 fight deal? OH NO! how is he capitalizing on not fighting joshua? by making less money? yes he should have taken the deal, become a free agent, and signed an even bigger deal next time. instead he complained about how he would be locked into a deal, took a worse deal, and made less money. that showed um! yeah but the problem is now we see his drawing power is very limited. if the fury rematch flops which is most likely will, why would anyone want to offer wilder such huge money again? the 100 million was based on potential drawing power. now that we see his drawing power is limited its much more of a gamble to overpay a guy when you know he's not a big star

What is this obsession with being your own boss? Everyone can’t run a company or host events or put them together.. folks act like you just show up to a fight as your own boss. He’s not taking any risks on money; he knows what he is getting paid no matter how bad the buys and gate is.

the offer was made after the ortiz fight so yeah can't use that one. Also fighting breazele and joshua was considered even more risky than fighting breazele and a rusty retired fury so i'm not sure what you are talking about. no one wanted to see the ortiz rematch. thats why it flopped. not many wanted to see the fury fight as it flopped and fury was an undercard fighter. maybe they want to see the rematch, we will see. i'm pretty sure the fight the fans wanted to see was wilder-joshua and wilder didn't give them that. remember the whole one champ thing that wilder used to say? don't worry he's making less money though so it was worth it!Wilder would fuck Joshua up. All AJ has to is dump Matchroom and sign with the PBC and the fight is own like a pot of neck bones.

why did they want a ppv fight? wilder is a ppv flop and joshua has never been on ppv. projected gross of what? these fights don't make money. they are money losers in order to corner the market and make revenue in the future. you seriously think a wilder-joshua fight does hundreds of millions of dollars in ppv revenue? they were trying to overpay the big lummox but his handlers filled his head with nonsense about how he should be making 100 million to fight joshua. they would literally need more than 3 million buys to secure those paydays for both men. wilder should have realized "hmm im not that popular and someone is trying to give me 100 million. ill take it!" instead he thought to himself "someone is offering me 100 million, thats an insult! i should be making more like joshua!" only problem is he's not joshua! joshua had a huge ppv following and huge live gates to fall back on if he rejected the dazn deal. the dazn deal was just guaranteed money since you never know what can happen from fight to fight. wilder had neither of these things and has neither now. it was a colossal blunder. also if you want to think in potential exponential growth, wilder beating joshua almost certainly would have propelled his star power. at least a lot more than beating ortiz and fury who aren't big stars(both guys were fighting on undercards before wilder plucked them out) but he chose the path that would give him the least amount of exponential growth. another mind bobblingly bad blunder. It definitely would’ve projected his star power but he would’ve been locked in his deal with no way to capitalize on it. Look at what happened to Ruiz. And they weren’t interested in a 4 fight deal. That was a no go from the get go. You can say Wilder was getting his head filled by his handlers. I agree with you there. It is Al Haymon. Who wouldn’t listen to Al Haymon. He’s always done right by Wilder to this point. All he has to do is beat Fury and their right back where they were 18 months ago. A big fight with Joshua staring them right in the face.

No, it's because Deontay dared to bet on himself and take risks. In 2018 he fought a dangerous undefeated fighter in Luis Ortiz and then followed that up with a match up against an undefeated Tyson Fury. Then he had subsequent KOs of both Dominic Breazeale and Luis Ortiz again in 2019 and now is going to rush back in the ring with a rematch against Tyson Fury in early 2020 which is unheard of. The Bronze Bomber is giving us boxing fans the fights that we want to see. Eddie Hearn has nothing to do with Wilder career moves because they are too risky and they all fell upon the responsibility of Deontay Wilder's shoulders. the offer was made after the ortiz fight so yeah can't use that one. Also fighting breazele and joshua was considered even more risky than fighting breazele and a rusty retired fury so i'm not sure what you are talking about. no one wanted to see the ortiz rematch. thats why it flopped. not many wanted to see the fury fight as it flopped and fury was an undercard fighter. maybe they want to see the rematch, we will see. i'm pretty sure the fight the fans wanted to see was wilder-joshua and wilder didn't give them that. remember the whole one champ thing that wilder used to say? don't worry he's making less money though so it was worth it!