ESPN rates Bud as P4P #1 your pick?

1. Canelo 2. Inoue 3. Lomachenko 4. Crawford 5. Usyk

I have listened to ESPN talk up Crawford yet he is great but he is yet to face a top 5 boxer at welterweight!! So it's extremely hard for me to give him that credit especially over Loma's great work with hardly a pro career but Canelo has a resume that be eats them all minus Manny possibly! Canelo is a Champ in 3 different weight classes and 160-175 don't forget the 154 to but that's all leagues above the fight that you get in the lower weights as a 175lb fighter is so much different in power then a guy that has won belts at 135, 140 and 147! But I do give Bud props! He is a great fighter I actually put him tied for 2nd with Loma with Canelo #1. Would love to here your opinions and why? Also a issue I have with ESPN's rating is he is a ESPN fighter so why would they not give him the nod but Loma is to so I find they put Loma's accomplishments behind his. And I can to possibly see that. He is a great fighter but not P4P #1 Bradley and Ward talk up Crawford. ESPN has Loma as their #1.

Yeah , I see your reasoning and can’t really argue I viewed Mikey as the big man at 135 but going after Spence and then not even attempting to win was a disgrace Just the fughin pump fisting after every round was a sad case Fughin up his legacy , I wouldn’t go as far to say that He can change that by fighting the best at 140 but since he’s part time it’s 147 for him against sub par opposition. Mikey Garcia special fighter but he lost that hunger

I like Mikey Garcia but he’s been a part time fighter just like Danny Garcia, Gary Russell, Santa Cruz. Boxers who are content of being inactive and expect the world when they return to fight tune up after tune up. Sorry but I viewed Garcia as the man at 135 but after that Spence fight it left a bad taste in my mouth. I felt like he ****ed up his legacy when he knew he couldn’t beat Spence Yeah , I see your reasoning and can’t really argue I viewed Mikey as the big man at 135 but going after Spence and then not even attempting to win was a disgrace Just the fughin pump fisting after every round was a sad case Fughin up his legacy , I wouldn’t go as far to say that

Damn you on Mikey neck Champ. Now he soft? I like Mikey Garcia but he’s been a part time fighter just like Danny Garcia, Gary Russell, Santa Cruz. Boxers who are content of being inactive and expect the world when they return to fight tune up after tune up. Sorry but I viewed Garcia as the man at 135 but after that Spence fight it left a bad taste in my mouth. I felt like he ****ed up his legacy when he knew he couldn’t beat Spence

Well, I suppose you make a fair argument. I like Spence because he looks so fluid and seems to keep a cool head. Also think it’s cool he gave Mayweather a waffle eye in sparring. But I suppose he is a bit too high... fair point there Like I said, it was just off the top of my head It’s all good but was cringing when I saw that Just wanted to hear your reasoning

Hey I’ll take his word but this coming from a part time fighter who last PPV he decided to play if safe. Damn you on Mikey neck Champ. Now he soft?

Is Mikey lying? Hey I’ll take his word but this coming from a part time fighter who last PPV he decided to play if safe.

Good post until I saw that you got fughin Spence second on that list Kind of goes against everything you just stated Spence’s only great fight , imo , is going over the pond and defeating Brooks The rest seems like ok but nothing , and I mean nothing to brag about Well, I suppose you make a fair argument. I like Spence because he looks so fluid and seems to keep a cool head. Also think it’s cool he gave Mayweather a waffle eye in sparring. But I suppose he is a bit too high... fair point there Like I said, it was just off the top of my head

And yet Bud thinks fighting a journeyman who lost to Robinson grants him PBP top but Canelo moving up 2 weight classes and knocking out a champion is anything less than this shameful Arum scam. As much as I don't like Canelo he IS THE P4P NUMBER 1 AT THE MOMENT. ESPN is full of it.

For me, Crawford still is the best p4p, he's just a smarter fighter than Loma and Canelo. And I can't take Canelo seriously anymore since he's a drug cheat and he's also taking the path of least resistance when it comes to his fights now.

King Wilder is number 1 p4p.

Lol Canelo, most of his official wins are either a robbery, controversial or cherry picked.

Huge fan of Loma and Crawford here. I think Crawford by the eye test is elite (but I know a lot of people don’t like the eye test). He has skill, agility, heart, and ring IQ. He reminds me a bit of SRL. He NEEDS to get the big fights though to prove it, I hear ya. Loma is great, but I think he doesn’t look as sharp at LW as he did at his old weight (130 I think?) Lots of other great fighters and boxers out there right now. Canelo’s obviously good, but I have an issue with the clenbuterol and lots of scores going too far in his favor, and something very odd about his fight with Kovalev. Not calling it a fix, but something senses off to me there. My P4P right now looks like this: 1. Crawford 2. Spence 3. Alvarez 4. Lomachenko 5. Wilder 6. Inoue 7. Charlo 8. Andrade 9. Usyk 10. Lopez Just off the top of my head anyways. It might look a little different if I consulted boxrec and refreshed my memory of who holds what belt and who’s fought whom... Good post until I saw that you got fughin Spence second on that list Kind of goes against everything you just stated Spence’s only great fight , imo , is going over the pond and defeating Brooks The rest seems like ok but nothing , and I mean nothing to brag about

it's a stupid argument...it's a popularity and bias contest. Crawford is good, very good. I can say that and still say, I don't think all that much of his resume and that includes being "undisputed." Belts are nice, but who had the belts? What have any of those guys done since? Or what were their great accomplishments before Crawford? You see how quickly this can get biased if you're not being honest? Crawford doesn't have the best resume at welterweight, let alone across all weight categories in the last few years.

I can see Crawford at number one but it's debatable.

Crawford is a special fighter but he needs better fights. Also to me his chin is still a huge question mark, he’s never fought a fighter who processes heavy hands.....mean machine breaks you down and doesn’t have good power but he buzzed Crawford a couple Of times Is Mikey lying?

For me, same as before. I think Loma and Bud are equally talented, but I give Loma a slight edge in p4p based on resume. It's pretty much a tie though. Canelo is not on their level.

Huge fan of Loma and Crawford here. I think Crawford by the eye test is elite (but I know a lot of people don’t like the eye test). He has skill, agility, heart, and ring IQ. He reminds me a bit of SRL. He NEEDS to get the big fights though to prove it, I hear ya. Loma is great, but I think he doesn’t look as sharp at LW as he did at his old weight (130 I think?) Lots of other great fighters and boxers out there right now. Canelo’s obviously good, but I have an issue with the clenbuterol and lots of scores going too far in his favor, and something very odd about his fight with Kovalev. Not calling it a fix, but something senses off to me there. My P4P right now looks like this: 1. Crawford 2. Spence 3. Alvarez 4. Lomachenko 5. Wilder 6. Inoue 7. Charlo 8. Andrade 9. Usyk 10. Lopez Just off the top of my head anyways. It might look a little different if I consulted boxrec and refreshed my memory of who holds what belt and who’s fought whom...

Crawford is a special fighter but he needs better fights. Also to me his chin is still a huge question mark, he’s never fought a fighter who processes heavy hands.....mean machine breaks you down and doesn’t have good power but he buzzed Crawford a couple Of times