What happened to the American take over by Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua?

It's dead Jim. Mr Haymon runs American boxing.

Hearn tried to pit Andrade against Lil G and the Ginger kid (see I'm not a fanboy like you). Both rejected him. On the other hand, the cancer don't even try. And fans discovered, so!!!...Eubank can cross the street for Charlo!! Korobov is available for the rematch too! I could understand Derevy just fought recently, but he's always been there for the Charlo fella. Yet he still chose to fight a 154 guy!!!! Apples and chicken. Yeah, I never thought Eubank would go back to middleweight reason why I didn't add him in my list here: Let's name the top middleweights... Now we know Charlo could have fought him long time ago. Haymon have time and again chose a bum for him.

yeah i forget about all the great andrade fights hearn has been giving us....like the big one coming up against luke keeler...lol....youre right! Hearn tried to pit Andrade against Lil G and the Ginger kid (see I'm not a fanboy like you). Both rejected him. On the other hand, the cancer don't even try. And fans discovered, so!!!...Eubank can cross the street for Charlo!! Korobov is available for the rematch too! I could understand Derevy just fought recently, but he's always been there for the Charlo fella. Yet he still chose to fight a 154 guy!!!! Apples and chicken.

Not even God can resurrect the sorry state of American boxing. Fighters can't be made to fight fighters fans want them to fight. Then they expect huge PPV sales. Of course, they lie about the outcome. 275K my ass. I won't even believe it did 25K. That video is kind of funny but look where he's asking & look who he's asking, women who don't follow boxing & people that look like they never played a sport in their lives :lol1:

I think he underestimated how dead boxing is in America, he underestimate how a lot of American fight fans doesn’t know much about boxing. Hearn regularly gets booed here when he puts a shady card on, but the fans here also understand that he deserves a praise when he puts on competitive cards. In America they would rather hate than acknowledge when they see something good. Just because the person is of the wrong colour, race etc which is why boxing isn’t what it use to be there. This is why someone that has a following doesn’t really need to go to America to get any approval. I mean some of these guys are soooo dumb they are advocating for PPV at a higher price, rather than pay 4 times less for more fights. Right now boxing in America needs a Sugar Ray Leonard, De la Hoya or a Mayweather. Who are the candidates?

Forget about AJ. US Boxing needs Eddie Hearn. Arum, Haymon and friends have overseen a massive decline of interest in US boxing. That's a fact isn't it? They took a mainstream sport and made it niche. Hearn has spearheaded a huge amount of interest in boxing in the UK and is trying to do the same in the US. Why don't you want that? You should be cheering his every move. Negative. eddie has given us ONE fight (Nelo/Jacobs). That's it. He can't get us Aj/Wilder, Aj/Fury, Aj/King Kong, Jacobs/Charlo, Jacobs/Andrade, Devin/l0m0chenko so its a thumbs down, BOO :thumbsdow

There was NOTHING wrong with Aj, the excuses from you guys NEVER end :lol1: Cool. Only PBC fighters get to do excuses I see. Gypsy magic and baby oil or Floyd isn't saying really nice things so that's why my fight bombed. LAUGHABLE.

If all goes well he will be back fighting in America at some point. If it is true he had health problems before the 1st fight then it wasnt the fact it was in America, It wasnt the scary (BORING) American fans. He had health problems. It astounds me just how much of a crushing bag of agony Anthony Joshua regaining his belts has been to some deluded Americans and a deluded Canadian. People laughing at your hurt. There was NOTHING wrong with Aj, the excuses from you guys NEVER end :lol1:

The cancer would exhaust all bums till he runs out of them. Did you see Charlo fighting another cherrypick last week when Korobov and Eubank were available, not to mention Derevyanchenko? The cancer has been insulting fans since time immemorial. yeah i forget about all the great andrade fights hearn has been giving us....like the big one coming up against luke keeler...lol....youre right!

I'm not selectively quoting here; this is in response to your two posts. I understand that NBA got bigger and NFL got bigger. They get those big TV deals and sponsorship. And I agree that the Premier League in the UK got bigger (I'm actually a UK expat). But it remains a legitimate question why Boxing got so much smaller. It happened in the UK too. We lacked characters, lacked big fights, boxing as a whole wasn't exciting. Our big guys went into other sports instead of heavyweight boxing. The non big guys went into other sports instead of boxing. But boxing is back in the UK. Matchroom has built the characters. Fury built his own. It's been on Sky TV giving it millions of watchers. Then moved to PPV at a reasonable price point. Stadium fights with 90,000 attendees - many of them at reasonable prices. The US still seems to have clung to hiding their stars behind very expensive PPVs, putting them in small arenas at massive ticket prices. Is it any wonder the top boxers don't have any great popularity? Or that young sportsmen don't see it is a lucrative business? They don't have any visibility in the sporting landscape. Jordan became a global star in a domestic league. That was incredible. Basketball may do similar for Simmons now. What's stopping them doing that for Wilder? I'd argue that Wilder has Hearn to thank for his rising popularity. It's about time someone tried. tldr: If the promoters actually grew the sport, they could do what Basketball and Football did. But they don't - they rely on fleecing a small but dedicated percentage of the market. That's an ever reducing rake as the dedicated percentage keeps on reducing. Hearn's approach is to grow the sport and charge less per person for multiples of the current viewership. And that's something boxing fans should encourage. its hard for promoters to grow a sport when they are competing against each other instead of somewhat working together for everyones betterment....nfl/nba owners work together(for the most part) for their own interests......its a completely different dynamic trust me though...hearn and aj may be somewhat responsible for wilders rising paychecks....but not his rising popularity and exposure the approach you mentioned isnt hearns...its DAZNS...they just happened to need a promoter(one that had AJ who is a star) and threw him a ton of cash.....they threw him all this money and this "fresh new approach" and hes still retreading chavez jr for jacobs...giving you farmer vs guys nobody knows(nobody knows farmer either to be honest) and andrade vs keeler..... im not even arguing that hearn is no good for boxing or anything like that...i just dont think hes doing anything special....AJ would have been thriving with just about anyone guiding him and if AJ disappears hearn becomes pretty small and weak in the global scene imo we could go back and forth on this for awhile...i dont have the time today but if you would like to continue at a later time no prob.....but the reality is americans just dont GAF about boxing anymore...its too tough for them follow....they dont have the collective attention span and they dont rally around americans....their attention is more "regional"

The cancer would exhaust all bums till he runs out of them. Did you see Charlo fighting another cherrypick last week when Korobov and Eubank were available, not to mention Derevyanchenko? The cancer has been insulting fans since time immemorial.

Not even God can resurrect the sorry state of American boxing. Fighters can't be made to fight fighters fans want them to fight. Then they expect huge PPV sales. Of course, they lie about the outcome. 275K my ass. I won't even believe it did 25K.

toffe to go further about what i said in the early 90s is when michael jordan started to take over and become huge...his sneakers...the whole brand..nike....the nba started surging with popularity same with the NFL it took off....both started getting big TV deals and the money they had to give out became increasingly larger...... which is why the money shifted....elite, big guy, athletes werent considering boxing.... I'm not selectively quoting here; this is in response to your two posts. I understand that NBA got bigger and NFL got bigger. They get those big TV deals and sponsorship. And I agree that the Premier League in the UK got bigger (I'm actually a UK expat). But it remains a legitimate question why Boxing got so much smaller. It happened in the UK too. We lacked characters, lacked big fights, boxing as a whole wasn't exciting. Our big guys went into other sports instead of heavyweight boxing. The non big guys went into other sports instead of boxing. But boxing is back in the UK. Matchroom has built the characters. Fury built his own. It's been on Sky TV giving it millions of watchers. Then moved to PPV at a reasonable price point. Stadium fights with 90,000 attendees - many of them at reasonable prices. The US still seems to have clung to hiding their stars behind very expensive PPVs, putting them in small arenas at massive ticket prices. Is it any wonder the top boxers don't have any great popularity? Or that young sportsmen don't see it is a lucrative business? They don't have any visibility in the sporting landscape. Jordan became a global star in a domestic league. That was incredible. Basketball may do similar for Simmons now. What's stopping them doing that for Wilder? I'd argue that Wilder has Hearn to thank for his rising popularity. It's about time someone tried. tldr: If the promoters actually grew the sport, they could do what Basketball and Football did. But they don't - they rely on fleecing a small but dedicated percentage of the market. That's an ever reducing rake as the dedicated percentage keeps on reducing. Hearn's approach is to grow the sport and charge less per person for multiples of the current viewership. And that's something boxing fans should encourage.

let me give you a brief lesson around 1990 lawrence taylor was one of the biggest name in american football(look him up if you dont who he is)....he was def the biggest name on the defensive side of the ball...his yearly salary was a bit under 2 million dollars a year in boxing you had tyson, bowe, holyfield making large sums of money flash forward to today....guys like crawford, spence, wilder were fighting for 2-3 million a couple of years ago....crawford is 32...wilder 34(just coming into big money now in the last year and half).... you have guys that come off the bench in the nba making 12-15 mil a year that play 20 minutes a night.....you have 22 year olds coming into the NFL with a guaranteed 32 mil over 4 years with the chance to make much more once that deal is up... the money shifted...the leagues starting steaming with popularity and the money started pouring in...huge tv deals.....money to be given out...its an easier route in the nba and nfl(i wont argue easier because that sport is absolutely brutal...its like getting into a car accident every week..but what i mean by "easier" is more spots to fill...more bodies) there are probably over 100 guys in the nfl alone, that had they trained to box since the age of 10(maybe even later) could likely be a HW champ in todays division.....but it was never an option because they never considered it youll hear about guys like seth mitchell and gerald washington how they are "ex football players"...but those guys only played at the collegiate level...which is still good if you play at a major program(its good anywhere to get a scholarship to do)...but those guys werent elite and not good enough to play at the highest level....the nfl has elite athletes toffe to go further about what i said in the early 90s is when michael jordan started to take over and become huge...his sneakers...the whole brand..nike....the nba started surging with popularity same with the NFL it took off....both started getting big TV deals and the money they had to give out became increasingly larger...... which is why the money shifted....elite, big guy, athletes werent considering boxing.... people in the US also dont really have the attention span for it anymore...to follow it closely...sometimes i think most of this country has ADD or ADHD....its just too tough for people to follow it day to day and know when to watch...who to watch....where to watch.... american league sports are a different animal....there are plenty of college stadiums for football that fill up 100k on a saturday and could probably get 300k in there if they had the room i know how popular soccer is over there...so i know you have a comparison.....its not like the concept is foreign to you...its just different over here....people like their team/regional sports more than they like showing "nationalism"

Wilder happened. Joshua wants NONE of it.

I just want to know what happened to the American Takeover. Also what happened to Anthony Joshua being the "Landlord" lol As soon as he makes his debut to US he loses, quits in front of Madison Square Garden and then goes and fights in Saudi Arabia. Of course he wins his titles back but is he coming to back to the US or is he going to just stay in the UK? What do y'all think? - -What grade U in?

Then what is it? The differences between people from the UK and US aren't that major. Both have loved boxing at certain stages in history. It's more than societal or cultural trends. Brits aren't suddenly thugs while Americans are health and safety nuts. What caused it? let me give you a brief lesson around 1990 lawrence taylor was one of the biggest name in american football(look him up if you dont who he is)....he was def the biggest name on the defensive side of the ball...his yearly salary was a bit under 2 million dollars a year in boxing you had tyson, bowe, holyfield making large sums of money flash forward to today....guys like crawford, spence, wilder were fighting for 2-3 million a couple of years ago....crawford is 32...wilder 34(just coming into big money now in the last year and half).... you have guys that come off the bench in the nba making 12-15 mil a year that play 20 minutes a night.....you have 22 year olds coming into the NFL with a guaranteed 32 mil over 4 years with the chance to make much more once that deal is up... the money shifted...the leagues starting steaming with popularity and the money started pouring in...huge tv deals.....money to be given out...its an easier route in the nba and nfl(i wont argue easier because that sport is absolutely brutal...its like getting into a car accident every week..but what i mean by "easier" is more spots to fill...more bodies) there are probably over 100 guys in the nfl alone, that had they trained to box since the age of 10(maybe even later) could likely be a HW champ in todays division.....but it was never an option because they never considered it youll hear about guys like seth mitchell and gerald washington how they are "ex football players"...but those guys only played at the collegiate level...which is still good if you play at a major program(its good anywhere to get a scholarship to do)...but those guys werent elite and not good enough to play at the highest level....the nfl has elite athletes

yeah...we need more rehashing of chavez jr as an opponent...and the world def needs andrade vs luke keeler....and tevin farmer vs god knows who the decline in US boxing popularity has little to do with the guys who have promoted it.... Then what is it? The differences between people from the UK and US aren't that major. Both have loved boxing at certain stages in history. It's more than societal or cultural trends. Brits aren't suddenly thugs while Americans are health and safety nuts. What caused it?

Forget about AJ. US Boxing needs Eddie Hearn. Arum, Haymon and friends have overseen a massive decline of interest in US boxing. That's a fact isn't it? They took a mainstream sport and made it niche. Hearn has spearheaded a huge amount of interest in boxing in the UK and is trying to do the same in the US. Why don't you want that? You should be cheering his every move. yeah...we need more rehashing of chavez jr as an opponent...and the world def needs andrade vs luke keeler....and tevin farmer vs god knows who the decline in US boxing popularity has little to do with the guys who have promoted it....

Forget about AJ. US Boxing needs Eddie Hearn. Arum, Haymon and friends have overseen a massive decline of interest in US boxing. That's a fact isn't it? They took a mainstream sport and made it niche. Hearn has spearheaded a huge amount of interest in boxing in the UK and is trying to do the same in the US. Why don't you want that? You should be cheering his every move.