Doesn't matter what I believe, point is you'll just believe whatever you want to fit your narrative. You act as if Fury is some huge draw here in the states. It is definitely believable to see it doing close to the Fury fight numbers as Wilder almost knocked Fury out in the 12th then followed it up with a great looking knockout against Breazeale. Casuals at work ask me about Wilder, although he is a terrible fighter he has people talking because he delivers KOs and that sells
Listen to Rick Glaser from 30 mins on. It's very interesting.
You believe that fight did 275k? :lol1:
Have a rest. That would mean Wilder Ortiz II did similar numbers to Wilder vs Fury. Do you honestly believe that? Or do you believe that's a marketing ploy to avoid more embarrassment? :thinking:
Do you think Showtime would have passed on this PPV if they thought it was generate anywhere near that type of cash?
And, even if he did do 275k which he absolutely did not, then that's still a monumental flop that couldn't even recover fighters purses, and just proves how little people actually care about Wilder in America or anywhere else for that matter.
Doesn't matter what I believe, point is you'll just believe whatever you want to fit your narrative. You act as if Fury is some huge draw here in the states. It is definitely believable to see it doing close to the Fury fight numbers as Wilder almost knocked Fury out in the 12th then followed it up with a great looking knockout against Breazeale. Casuals at work ask me about Wilder, although he is a terrible fighter he has people talking because he delivers KOs and that sells
Wilder vs Fury will probably do around 400-500k
Fury will sell the s*** out of the fight beforehand.
I think Ruiz vs Wilder is actually the biggest possible PPV, you get the mexican fans and undisputed on the line. Joshua is a star in the UK but nobody really knows him here in the US but for the KO loss to Ruiz.
I think Ruiz could outbox Wilder but could he survive? probably not, but i'd pay for that one.
I think DAZN are willing to pay more than any combination of the above PPV's is going to generate for AJ vs Wilder undisputed.
Wilder vs Fury will probably do around 400-500k
Fury will sell the s*** out of the fight beforehand.
I think Ruiz vs Wilder is actually the biggest possible PPV, you get the mexican fans and undisputed on the line. Joshua is a star in the UK but nobody really knows him here in the US but for the KO loss to Ruiz.
I think Ruiz could outbox Wilder but could he survive? probably not, but i'd pay for that one.
I dont know why people hate on wilder, he realistically is one of the few boxers that CAN be a PPV STAR!
But he can't be a PPV star.
He's 34 years old and both his PPVs have flopped in losses. He's into his 40s in terms of fights, and his own network is turning him down.
In what world do you think that's the beginning of a PPV star? Wilder unfortunately just doesn't have the 'it' factor.
People don't connect with him well, and you can see why.
his dumbo fans don't help him either, and neither does that corny little guy in the white fur coat that's always by his side acting like a tough guy.
He just did 275K with a Cuban who doesn't speak english. Correct me if my math is wrong, but that's over 100K
You believe that fight did 275k? :lol1:
Have a rest. That would mean Wilder Ortiz II did similar numbers to Wilder vs Fury. Do you honestly believe that? Or do you believe that's a marketing ploy to avoid more embarrassment? :thinking:
Do you think Showtime would have passed on this PPV if they thought it was generate anywhere near that type of cash?
And, even if he did do 275k which he absolutely did not, then that's still a monumental flop that couldn't even recover fighters purses, and just proves how little people actually care about Wilder in America or anywhere else for that matter.
Well of course... When was the last time someone did over 1M buys? Canelo vs. GGG 2?
Pacquiao vs. Thurman did like 400K
I'm not sure Canelo can even do 1M anymore.
The PPV idea of a "PPV star" doesn't exist anymore. You can maybe approach that if you put the right fights together. But no one is doing 1M by themselves anymore.
I dont know why people hate on wilder, he realistically is one of the few boxers that CAN be a PPV STAR!
I don't even like the dude, he's a terrible boxer. But the blind hate on here is just downright re-tarded
All of that and still can't crack 100k PPVs.
Yikes.
He just did 275K with a Cuban who doesn't speak english. Correct me if my math is wrong, but that's over 100K
wilder vs aj, fury, or ruiz will sell good numbers... if he wins all those fights he can sell 500k+ for the remainder of career and ride off into the sunset, but he will never do mayweather numbers if thats what people are wondering...
If he wins all those fight he wont have anyone left to fight :)
wilder vs aj, fury, or ruiz will sell good numbers... if he wins all those fights he can sell 500k+ for the remainder of career and ride off into the sunset, but he will never do mayweather numbers if thats what people are wondering...
PPV been dying almost as long as PBC been dying.
Mfers in boxing are too invested in and damn near rooting on failure for some reason.
I love boxing and I root for every PPV that doesn't warrant the price tag to fail miserably.
We keep paying and they keep sticking us with worse and worse matchups for $75.
No thanks....
So you're suggesting promoters back in the day when signing guys to multi-year contracts wasn't a thing lost money cuz of all these mfers on the bottom of a card? Thats nuts.
If you make a good card folks wanna see the $400 to $5k level pay fighters won't be making you go broke. The main event and main card draw should sustain the rest of the card. If you are making a straight up and down first 15 to 20 fight guys full event well no sh^t you are probably are going to lose money cuz that's a bs ass boxing event.
"back in the day" you actually had MANAGERS who subsidized fighter development, and promoters just promoted fights. You dont really have that anymore. The role of funding fighter development has fallen almost exclusively on the promoters.
NOBODY makes money on a club show. And there arent enough undercard slots available on larger TV shows to move all the guys who need 6 and 8 round fights. Somebody has to pay for that.
Rick Glaser, who is he, and who cares.
Deontay is ESPN's most famous boxer of 2019.
One of Forbes' top 5 highest-earning boxers of 2019.
Net worth soon to climb into the 9-figure range in 2020.
Longest reigning currently active Heavyweight Champion of the World.
Future Hall of Famer and Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.
Stop beating around the bush.
All this and more still won't make him a ppv star.
Leave the message and attack the messenger.
Lmao.
Kinda odd to say he'll never be a PPV star then go on to say PPV is dying and irrelevant. So what does it even matter if he wont be a PPV star if there wont be anymore PPV stars anyway?
What he is saying is that even if PPV was still popular, wilder isnt capable of being a star.
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