Your Clenelo pick. Even I would trump anyone with all the advantages he is given.
My Canelo pick? All A side fighters and superstars have advantages in the history of boxing but also in all sports!
Go talk to Sugar Ray Leonard,Chavez Sr, Dela Hoya, Mayweather and etc.
Canelo won’t be last so get used to it or go watch golf or water polo!
The sport has been corrupted since the 30’s and 50’s!
All you haters act like what’s going is unprecedented, y’all need to do y’all research and shut the fûçk up!
What’s to boo?
All are marvelous fighters challenging or have challenge themselves whether it’s by fighting prime champs, fighting undefeated fighters, taking on the fighters they shouldn’t , beating guys in their hometown, unifying titles, knocking out their rival/competition, moving up divisions, risking themselves for glory and creating memorable fights!
What’s your list look like?
Your Clenelo pick. Even I would trump anyone with all the advantages he is given.
Canelo is the clear number 1 P4P. Can't believe so many were so high on Inoue. Inoue is a fun exciting offensive fighter. But he is not on the level of guys like Canelo, Crawford, Loma. Stop overrating power especially when you fighting weaker competition. Inoue doesn't have the skill those guys have, has horrendous defense. Inoue is just really easy to hit with big clean power shots.
Canelo has moved up more weights and faced 2 of the biggest punchers of the last decade GGG, Kovalev, and even Jacobs who is a huge puncher at 160. Over 90 career KO's these guys all have only about 5 wins their entire careers that weren't by KO and yet Canelo fights all these fights and combined you can count on 1 hand how many times they hit Canelo with a clean hard power shot. Inoue got hit more times in 1 or 2 rounds then Canelo did against GGG Twice, Jacobs, Kovalev combined. This is why quality of opponents you fight matter. It's why GGG looked like a monster too when he was fighting tomato cans and it looked much different the moment he stepped up his level of opponents.
booooooooo booooooooooo boooooo
What’s to boo?
All are marvelous fighters challenging or have challenge themselves whether it’s by fighting prime champs, fighting undefeated fighters, taking on the fighters they shouldn’t , beating guys in their hometown, unifying titles, knocking out their rival/competition, moving up divisions, risking themselves for glory and creating memorable fights!
What’s your list look like?
Class is in session, boys and girls!
Personal bias? I could say the same about you.
Almost everyone in the media ringside scored the fight for GGG ffs. Everyone here knows you're a Canelo d@ckrider.
And I'm not hinting that the Kovalev fight was fixed, it WAS fkn fixed. Maybe not the ending but the Canelo win was already pre-determined. The mere fact that Canelo was winning on the scorecards in a fight that he had done very little in and how Kovalev deliberately avoiding throwing any hard punches that he's known for is all the proof I need. Not even to mention how he conceded defeat with no whimper of wanting a rematch when he's never done that before tells the tale. It doesn't take a genius to get it and it takes the opposite of a genius to ignore it.
Topic over
Bye now :spankme:
Lmfao
Dude calm down, no need to call names to attempt to get your bias point across!
You come across as someone who betted big money on Golovkin in the Canelo fights and lost big so you’re taking your frustrations out on someone who has a different opinion than you... class!
Now allow me to school you like a student, grab your pen and paper please! Ahem,!
Just because you say something or think something doesn’t make it reality!
Just because you made a statement doesn’t mean it’s a fact!
Fun fact: These are the facts, Canelo has a draw against Golovkin and a victory against him. Canelo has also a victory over Sergey Kovalev, someone Golovkin would never fight and has since still proved me correct!
There is no legitimate proof that Canelo-Kovalev was a fixed fight!
Another fact is that it doesn’t take a idiot to guest that your pro Golovkin and that Golovkin wouldn’t give two shîtś about you as long as you purchase his merchandise and buy tickets to his fights!
The day you understand everything I taught you today between the differences of opinions and facts, is the day you’ll accept reality and not be so upset!
It’s ok, the first step is to accept that Canelo is the superior fighter willing to make more history while Golovkin will gift you as a fan Golovkin vs Szermiazare!
Enjoy the fight and the free lesson!
This is my official pound for pound list updated!
1. Canelo
2. Usyk
3. Loma
4. Pacquiao
5.Crawford
6.Estrada
7.Spence
8. Beterbiev
9. Taylor
10. Inoue
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The person who’s putting his own personal bias in the Canelo-Golovkin fights tells someone else to get a grip! Lmao
Then goes a step further and says Canelo-Kovalev was a fixed fight basically! Lmfao
Canelo haters are just as bad as Canelo fight judges, just consistently bad!
Usyk was in the top 3 p4p or top 5 for cleaning out his division which wasn’t that long ago, who else in boxing has done that while beating undefeated prime champs in their hometowns!? That holds significant merit IMO
Of course he wasn’t gonna fight a threat in his first fight at heavyweight and from a major injury, that would be suicide!
You’re coming off as irate, what’s your p4p list look like might I ask!?
Personal bias? I could say the same about you.
Almost everyone in the media ringside scored the fight for GGG ffs. Everyone here knows you're a Canelo d@ckrider.
And I'm not hinting that the Kovalev fight was fixed, it WAS fkn fixed. Maybe not the ending but the Canelo win was already pre-determined. The mere fact that Canelo was winning on the scorecards in a fight that he had done very little in and how Kovalev deliberately avoiding throwing any hard punches that he's known for is all the proof I need. Not even to mention how he conceded defeat with no whimper of wanting a rematch when he's never done that before tells the tale. It doesn't take a genius to get it and it takes the opposite of a genius to ignore it.
Topic over
Bye now :spankme:
1. Terence Crawford
His skills seem unmatched in my opinion. Only time will tell if I’m right.
2. Errol Spence, Jr.
Only time will tell if the car accident has diminished his abilities
3. Vasya Lomachenko
He’s staying at number three for me until he either defeats or loses to the likes of Commey or Haney.
4. Naoya Inoue
He’s the most complete fighter in boxing in my opinion. We’ll have to see how he fares against Nonito. He may even move higher on my list (or fall) depending on how everything plays out.
5. Deontay Wilder
I may receive flack for this, but until someone can either clearly outbox him without taking two knockdowns, or else spark him out, he’s staying in my top five.
Thoughts?
P4P list isn't solely about skills - it should really depend on quality of opponents.
Crawford hasn't fought a quality opponent at 147 and he shouldn't be here
don't have a problem with Errol being top five but P4P top three no
Lomachenko should be number 2
Good one on Inoue
Wilder - you put Crawford on this list solely based on skills and Wilder is probably the least skilled of all the heavyweight champs. He is the hardest hitting.
Canelo arguably lost two fights in a row to GGG! You can't lose two fight in a row and be P4P#1.
And you want to talk about coming up and beating Kovalev, well that's obvious that he not only took a huge money dive, but he was also damaged goods and was not #1 in the divison anyways. On top of that, Kovalev was beating him without even trying to hurt him! He didn't even try to win at all.
Canelo is not P4P#1 and Usyk is nowhere even close because he has beaten nobody at HW.
Listen to yourself and get a fkn grip
The person who’s putting his own personal bias in the Canelo-Golovkin fights tells someone else to get a grip! Lmao
Then goes a step further and says Canelo-Kovalev was a fixed fight basically! Lmfao
Canelo haters are just as bad as Canelo fight judges, just consistently bad!
Usyk was in the top 3 p4p or top 5 for cleaning out his division which wasn’t that long ago, who else in boxing has done that while beating undefeated prime champs in their hometowns!? That holds significant merit IMO
Of course he wasn’t gonna fight a threat in his first fight at heavyweight and from a major injury, that would be suicide!
You’re coming off as irate, what’s your p4p list look like might I ask!?
1. Terence Crawford
His skills seem unmatched in my opinion. Only time will tell if I’m right.
2. Errol Spence, Jr.
Only time will tell if the car accident has diminished his abilities
3. Vasya Lomachenko
He’s staying at number three for me until he either defeats or loses to the likes of Commey or Haney.
4. Naoya Inoue
He’s the most complete fighter in boxing in my opinion. We’ll have to see how he fares against Nonito. He may even move higher on my list (or fall) depending on how everything plays out.
5. Deontay Wilder
I may receive flack for this, but until someone can either clearly outbox him without taking two knockdowns, or else spark him out, he’s staying in my top five.
Thoughts?
What’s the fail?
Canelo is undoubtably number 1! No one has moved up 2 divisions and knocked out a legit champ who was considered #2 or top 3!
Usyk cleaned out an entire division and beat prime undefeated champs in their hometowns while doing it!
Now he’s at heavyweight
Loma is in his 3rd division and has nearly unified all the titles and just beat a top contender Olympic gold medalist in their hometown!
Pacman has the best resume in boxing right now and beating a undefeated prime champ just elevated him further, knocking him down was a helluva feat as well!
Bud cleared out 140 without breaking a sweat and moved up to his 3rd division an easily handled a undefeated champ who beat Pacquiao!
Estrada beat the best in his division who was considered the boogeyman after losing to him and being the underdog becoming a 3 division champ!
Spence beat a two time champ who was top 5 147 and who was the best version of hisself as well in a modern classic to unify titles!
Beterbiev thrashed an undefeated prime champ who beat the man who beat the man an who was considered arguably #1 at 175 while unifying titles an becoming lineal champ when he was then underdog!
Taylor defeated a undefeated prime champ who was considered the best at 140 and the boogeyman of the division in a classic war! Unifying titles and he was the underdog!
Inoue has destroyed everyone in his path while moving up in 3 divisions! He is simply missing that signature win and unifications even beating Donaire won’t do it IMO!
Canelo arguably lost two fights in a row to GGG! You can't lose two fight in a row and be P4P#1.
And you want to talk about coming up and beating Kovalev, well that's obvious that he not only took a huge money dive, but he was also damaged goods and was not #1 in the divison anyways. On top of that, Kovalev was beating him without even trying to hurt him! He didn't even try to win at all.
Canelo is not P4P#1 and Usyk is nowhere even close because he has beaten nobody at HW.
Listen to yourself and get a fkn grip
Terrible fail for obvious reasons
What’s the fail?
Canelo is undoubtably number 1! No one has moved up 2 divisions and knocked out a legit champ who was considered #2 or top 3!
Usyk cleaned out an entire division and beat prime undefeated champs in their hometowns while doing it!
Now he’s at heavyweight
Loma is in his 3rd division and has nearly unified all the titles and just beat a top contender Olympic gold medalist in their hometown!
Pacman has the best resume in boxing right now and beating a undefeated prime champ just elevated him further, knocking him down was a helluva feat as well!
Bud cleared out 140 without breaking a sweat and moved up to his 3rd division an easily handled a undefeated champ who beat Pacquiao!
Estrada beat the best in his division who was considered the boogeyman after losing to him and being the underdog becoming a 3 division champ!
Spence beat a two time champ who was top 5 147 and who was the best version of hisself as well in a modern classic to unify titles!
Beterbiev thrashed an undefeated prime champ who beat the man who beat the man an who was considered arguably #1 at 175 while unifying titles an becoming lineal champ when he was then underdog!
Taylor defeated a undefeated prime champ who was considered the best at 140 and the boogeyman of the division in a classic war! Unifying titles and he was the underdog!
Inoue has destroyed everyone in his path while moving up in 3 divisions! He is simply missing that signature win and unifications even beating Donaire won’t do it IMO!
You’re literally overly sensitive because someone doesn’t suck Lomachenko’s weenie like you do, snowflake.
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No, I called you out because you know jack sh@t about boxing. And I couldn't care less if you agree with myself or not. Loma is recognized at #1 P4P in the sport. Only an idiot (you) would rank him #5.
Bye bye troll
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This is my official pound for pound list updated!
1. Canelo
2. Usyk
3. Loma
4. Pacquiao
5.Crawford
6.Estrada
7.Spence
8. Beterbiev
9. Taylor
10. Inoue
:lol1: What office do you hold?